Hanging Crappie structure question

Want to get some of your all’s opinion on hanging crappie structure. I currently have been using and sinking the Moss Back Rack structures with great success.

Has anyone ever stacked two on top of each other and then hung them? They are about 4 feet tall so two together would be an 8 foot high structure. Was thinking it could be hung and sunk at a depth of about 20 feet so the structure would cover 12-20ft.

Also, has anyone ever hung structures like the Moss back rack from Wave Breakers near or on main channels and over deep water? I think it might produce consistent year round crappie and wanted your all’s take one it.

Here are the structures models I use.
Safe Haven | Products | Mossback Fish Habitat |

I hang porcupine fish attractors from my slips all the time. Just need to use coated wire so the wire doesn't corrode and drop them after a couple of years.

EZgoing, how deep is the water where you are hanging them? And what Lake?

And do you find they work better if you hang and suspend them or hang them half way or partial up off the bottom or hang them all the way to the bottom?

Yeah, where is that dock, hmmm?

Just make sure us dock shooters can get a clear shot at the fish under your dock. I hate snagging my jigs on your hanging stuff.

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The water depth was around 16 ' on Joe Pool Lake. I have had them resting on the bottom and I have also suspended them at 10' so I would have 8' between the top of the porcupine attractor and the top of the water. A friend of mine has 1/2 of his porcupine attractors in his slip double rigged, with one attractor resting on the bottom and the second one suspended about the first one, using the same wire for both. He state he had 13 porcupine attractor locations in his slip, 7 singles and 6 double rigged.

His slip is an excellent crappie producer.

I have now started using bamboo for my slips, as a friend has a ready supply of bamboo and it is less work and expense than building the porcupine attractors. But the porcupine attractors do work.

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Originally Posted by jawjatek

Yeah, where is that dock, hmmm?

Just make sure us dock shooters can get a clear shot at the fish under your dock. I hate snagging my jigs on your hanging stuff.

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Yea, I was having a lot of trouble with dock shooters tearing my mooring lines and had one tear a hole in my high pressure gas line to the motor. Also had problems with them ripping holes in my pontoon cover. Got very tired of having to buy new mooring lines every six months. After the gas line was holed I hung a dog chain across my slip, about 10' from the rear of the slip, three foot deep so my pontoon logs would pass over it. I seldom needed to replace mooring ropes after that. I also received some nice jigs and lures every few months when I would pull it out to check it.

My current slip has a lift in it which works better than a dog chain. It's extremely had to get through the lift without hanging up so most dock shooters only fish the slip one time

Well, if it is any consolation, I never shoot under a boat, only in between the floats under the main deck, because the fish are usually under the "meat" of the dock, and I can see them with my electronics, perfectly, not an ounce of doubt. I don't even stop unless I see a cloud of a hundred or more. I consider it a roaring success when I pull out 10-20 crappie without snagging a jig on maybe twice as many shots, and then I move on. Maybe I set a waypoint, maybe I don't. Good docks are hard to find.

I am respectful and follow the golden rule for other's property, but I know - oh, how I know - that many yahoos and other scurvy rats on public waters don't give a rip, and ruin it for the minority of us that are doing it right. I'll move on. Plenty more other docks on the lake, it is 38 thousand acres and literally thousands of docks. So many docks, so little time...

Total respect to all dock owners. I mean it.

I hung a pecan wood concreted 5 gallon bucket off EZs dock ,but the water is kinda shallow in that area so I just let it sit on the bottom and used the cable to keep it upright .
I have seen folks suspend Christmas trees on cables under docks

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Originally Posted by jawjatek

Well, if it is any consolation, I never shoot under a boat, only in between the floats under the main deck, because the fish are usually under the "meat" of the dock, and I can see them with my electronics, perfectly, not an ounce of doubt. I don't even stop unless I see a cloud of a hundred or more. I consider it a roaring success when I pull out 10-20 crappie without snagging a jig on maybe twice as many shots, and then I move on. Maybe I set a waypoint, maybe I don't. Good docks are hard to find.

I am respectful and follow the golden rule for other's property, but I know - oh, how I know - that many yahoos and other scurvy rats on public waters don't give a rip, and ruin it for the minority of us that are doing it right. I'll move on. Plenty more other docks on the lake, it is 38 thousand acres and literally thousands of docks. So many docks, so little time...

Total respect to all dock owners. I mean it.

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Actually I think it is the majority that respect other people's property when they fish docks and slips. I believe it is just a minority who do these damaging things which is why I waited so long to install the chain and why I have always allowed people to fish my slips when I am not fishing them. But sadly things have reached the point where I am also considering putting up gates to prevent people from fishing my two slips. When I found two undersized crappie a few weeks ago in my fishing basket it was almost the last straw. But I still held off blocking access to my slips. I hate to block access but I am getting so tired of cleaning up after those who leave their trash behind on my slips and I don't want to be fined for fish somebody left in my basket.

I know it is just a few people who are doing things like this but I don't know how to block just the bad actors. :(

But to get this back on topic I know from years of experience that hanging structure, any kind of structure, will attract and keep crappie in your slip. I believe in sinking some to the bottom and having some hanging at different levels in the water. If you use Christmas trees be sure to trim some of the limbs out of the tree so you create holes for the fish to hide in the tree.

just remember this , it aint ok to hang the guy fishing your hanging structures ….just saying :Rofl

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just remember this , it aint ok to hang the guy fishing your hanging structures ….just saying :Rofl

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Or rough him up too much is forums if you want him to keep hanging those structures. http://crappieforum.com/smf/Smileys/default/bowdown.gifhttp://crappieforum.com/smf/Smileys/default/bowdown.gifhttp://crappieforum.com/smf/Smileys/default/bowdown.gif :Rofl

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just remember this , it aint ok to hang the guy fishing your hanging structures ….just saying :Rofl

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Or rough him up too much is forums if you want him to keep hanging those structures. http://crappieforum.com/smf/Smileys/default/bowdown.gifhttp://crappieforum.com/smf/Smileys/default/bowdown.gifhttp://crappieforum.com/smf/Smileys/default/bowdown.gif :Rofl

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Originally Posted by jawjatek

Well, if it is any consolation, I never shoot under a boat, only in between the floats under the main deck, because the fish are usually under the "meat" of the dock, and I can see them with my electronics, perfectly, not an ounce of doubt. I don't even stop unless I see a cloud of a hundred or more. I consider it a roaring success when I pull out 10-20 crappie without snagging a jig on maybe twice as many shots, and then I move on. Maybe I set a waypoint, maybe I don't. Good docks are hard to find.

I am respectful and follow the golden rule for other's property, but I know - oh, how I know - that many yahoos and other scurvy rats on public waters don't give a rip, and ruin it for the minority of us that are doing it right. I'll move on. Plenty more other docks on the lake, it is 38 thousand acres and literally thousands of docks. So many docks, so little time...

Total respect to all dock owners. I mean it.

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Honestly??? I wouldn’t mind at all if fisherman came into my dock and fished in my wells and around my dock. I would want and love for them to catch some good slabs when I’m not around and be happy!!! Only think I would like is for them to be careful, respectful, and not damage anything. Heck, they could just get on thre and chill for a good while while drinking out of their ice cold cooler of beer!!!

I shoot a lot of docks and pontoons. I only lay a hand on someone's dock to remove a jig and line left by someone else. ( I have long ago switched to braid so I can bend out and pull my jigs free almost every time. ) or to get my boat from being washed into the dock by someone that buzzed me without me knowing it was coming until too late. Fisherman being disrespectful is what gives all dock shooters a bad name.

Those fishing braid were one of the problems from people fishing the slips from the lakeside. They would hang their lures in the mooring ropes or boat cover, then rip tears in the ropes or holes in the cover, trying to retrieve their lures. Nothing like finding a six inch tear in a $1000.00 boat cover to sour you on those who shoot docks.

Having said thsi, I am now learning to dock shoot as I have moved to a lake that has little structure and lots of docks. I intend to do something about the lack of structure over the next year, if I can get some of my procrastinating friends moving. :Rofl

The major difference in my new lake and Joe Pool is most of the docks on this new lake are on legs 2-4 feet above the water, not on floats riding on the water. So it is easy to shoot under the deck and walkway without having to shoot between the side of the boat and the walkway.

But I will definitely respect those whose docks I fish and only shoot under the deck and walkways. I will never shoot between the walkways and the sides of the boat nor around or under a pontoon boat. I will never bounce my lure off the side of a parked boat so it drops down into the water so I can retrieve it between the side of the boat and the walkway. I will never shoot a jig high enough to snag the mooring ropes nor snag the boat cover. Or gas lines and fish finder lines at the back of the boat.

If the wind or the waves do not allow me to accurately control where my jigs go I will not dock shoot that day.

And I will never, ever dock shoot a dock when the owner and his friends are fishing the dock. And if I see somebody on a dock I assume they are fishing it, regardless of what they are actually doing.

And yes, I have had all the above happen from people shooting my dock or fishing my underwater green light when I had it in the water. This is why I thought I would never shoot a dock, given all that has happened to me from those shooting docks.

I ended up turning off my underwater green light after being woke up several times at night by people bumping into my houseboat or pontoon while fishing it late at night. I even had one person rap on my houseboat door at 3 AM, asking if I would jump start his boat as he had ran his battery down while fishing my green light.

That was the final straw for the green light. I turned it off and left it off as I seldom fished it myself.

All I have ever asked is that those who fish my slips treat my property with respect and not steal or cause damage that costs me money to repair. And I still believe that most fishermen are respectable of other people's property. It's the 10% who are not that cause all the headaches for everybody else. :(

I will shoot the pontoon boats, only between the floats. Not many fish to be had outside of then. I see no reason to bounce a jig off of the boat at all. It is a pretty wild shot that sends a jig onto a boat cover, or into a boat for that matter. I have spent a lot of time shooting at buckets from distances and angles in order to cleanly put a jig where I want it to go. A jig in a dock line gets pushed through the other side and then the barb cut off so it will slide back out. Fuel or transducer wires hanging down is a no shoot. I have been shooting when 2 fellas showed up and went to bouncing jigs off of everything. I quickly moved on. Didn't want to be associated with all of that.