Mystery Hair?

Maybe someone can help me? I tie my own jigs most of the time. I usually buy what it called the Black Lake hair jig and have had a lot of success in using these jigs. However the original maker of these jigs does not tie anymore and it has been turned over to another person who does not tie as well. (Thread comes unraveled easily). I have to use a drop of super glue or like material to keep the unraveling in check. I have tried to find out what kind of hair is used but to no avail. I used bucktail and kiptail but they seem a little stiff and do not do as well. The hair I'm looking for is a synthetic fine hair that "floats" when jigging in the water. Can anyone help me? Suggestions is greatly appreciated.
Thanks in advance.

Is this the type of jigs your looking at? It says "black" but website and search said "blake"

Black Lake Hair Jigs – Honey-hole-shop

Yes it is..exactly. I was looking for the type hair used to tie my own for my personal use. Nothing like catching fish on a jig you tied yourself. Having trouble buying these jigs because of supply issues in my colors and size I want to use. I have orderd jigs from Honey Hole in the past. If I could find the hair, I could make my own easily. Thanks for your reply...

The website says they are hair jigs and I don't have much experience with them. Hopefully someone like Skip with more experience can answer now that everyone can see them.

I agree tying and then fishing your own jigs, nothing compares.

Looks similar to the raccoon hair that I use.

I get mine from a local fly shop.

I would need better pics? Maybe Fox hair as I have a good many of Fox tails and of course the Arctic Fox pieces too. It also could be synthetic?

Any better picture?

Skip

See if any of these pics help. I tried enlarging from Honey Hole website.

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So many colors, doubt it's raccoon. Some of it looks as thought it could be Kiptail? That bottom one has me puzzled with so much of it curly (gray part).

If is't not Kip there is a chance it's Fox. After all there are a lot of Fox that are White like the Arctic Fox! Anyone have one in their hands? It would help to see it in hand.

It need to be the kind of hair that can be found White to get the clean dye colors.

Oh and how long is the hair or what size jigs?

Skip

Thanks for all the input. It is a synthetic hair I'm quite sure and dyed. So I guess it could just be about anything? LOL The pictures that Super Dave posted is the exact jig in question. I have been using the jigs for years but supply has been become limited and quality has suffered. Hook size is #4 and 1/16 oz. is what I use here on upper (very upper) Toledo Bend. I've not used to many plastics so I may start soon. I've caught fish on my own tied jigs using bucktail and kip tail but the texture of the hairs seem too stiff? Just my opinion. I sure enjoy catching on my own jigs...seems more gooder and the fish taste better??? LOL JK of course....rotfl

Do you have a few of the jigs still left? If so, you may have to take it to a store that sells supplies - or send it to one of the members here that tie and sell their jigs. Let them get it in their hands and then copy it. Then it's trial and error - which is the fun part.

Thanks Skip, the jig you mentioned in SuperDave 335 post, is the exact jig I use most. I have caught many a slab on that jig here on TB lake. I use a #4 hook and 1/16oz jig mostly.

Look at this and see if it might not work for you.
Flymen Fishing Faux Bucktail 6"

I was wondering about this material.

Slinky Fibre - Fly Tying Crimped Krinkled Synthetic Bucktail Hair – Fly Artist

To many options. Might just have to get and try some of them until you find what your looking for.

Thanks Cray, Your post looks mighty close in the photo,I may contact the dealer and order a couple to see if it maybe close to what I'm looking for....thanks for your help.

Thanks Dave, It looks close as well? Heck I don't know..LOL..I have the info to call the dealer and ask about the texture. As long as it is not to stiff and kind of floats in the water...I think it may work....Thanks a lot for you help.

Might just have to try several things and see what works. Personally I’d probably just get close and go fishing :fish

Looks like craft hair or polar fiber. There are different varieties of each.

There are many versions of craft hair and also different lengths. I have some that has to be over 6” long for tying streamers. The wrinkled looking stuff is new to me. The bottom jig looks like fine bucktail to me.

Maybe you should try several things? I know kip tail is a killer, just ask any of them guys from Louisiana and they will tell you so! I never believed in it until some guys over there got me to make them some. When I got a couple tied and was tired of tying that day I went down to my bank and thinking nothing was in there yet anyway, just was curious. Well 15 min later I had 3 with the smallest one was 14" and I became a believer, lol!

So if I was in your place I would get a few heads with #6 Sickles (don't want a hook with long shank) and tie a few kip tail jigs, then I would use my #4 and tie a few bucktail jigs and maybe a few synthetic hair type jigs and I would find out which was best and which was not if any? I personally would favor that kip tail, there is just something about it that works great! I would suggest you at a minimum give it a try?

I have tried some Craft Fur and it did well, but for me I didn't like how they can tangle in a box with each other. I know a guide that only uses that stuff and ties his own 1/8 Oz jigs with a very small hook. These are just my personal opinions though.

Skip

It's definitely craft hair. I buy most of mine from Punisher lures. Also get the select craft hair from Feathercraft. My biggest bass and crappie were caught on craft hair jigs tied thin with a couple strands of flash. New favorite natural hair is opossum zonkers cut from the strip and tied thin. Biggest mistake is tying to big of a tail. Only down side to craft hair is that it will tangle with other craft hair jigs if you store too many together.

It sounds like I have the craft hair you mentioned. All the jig are packaged solo in little plastic zip lock bags. If I take them out and put in my tackle box, the do become entangled if I put more than two in a tray. So it look as if you guys are narrowing it down for me. Thank you all so much for the help....


Buddy from the Bayou Country..

These jigs have arctic fox tail tails.Attachment 362365

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MYSTERY SOLVED!!!! I called the vendor in Tennessee about the hair in question and as we talked he advised he sold this same hair to a jig maker in Louisiana. He offered his name and come to find out, it is the same folk who has made my jigs for years. Mystery finally solved thanks to all the advice and research results I received from fellow Crappie.com friends. Thank you all so much. I'm really excited waiting for my jig hair to arrive so I can get busy making for myself...A merry Christmas for me and wish you all a very Blessed Christmas time with family and friends....

Bayou Bud
Upper Toledo Bend

So what was it the craft fur?

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So what was it the craft fur?

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Jig hair......:Rofl

I'm betting craft fur.

I don't know the difference or if there is one between craft fur and craft hair? Seems as if there is one though but I'm now aware of what it is. I think maybe something to do with the texture or length? IDK? Thanks for your help SuperDave and al ofl you who help me narrow it down. Once the vendor volunteered the name of the jig maker he supplies in Louisiana, I knew I had the right stuff.

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MYSTERY SOLVED!!!! I called the vendor in Tennessee about the hair in question and as we talked he advised he sold this same hair to a jig maker in Louisiana. He offered his name and come to find out, it is the same folk who has made my jigs for years. Mystery finally solved thanks to all the advice and research results I received from fellow Crappie.com friends. Thank you all so much. I'm really excited waiting for my jig hair to arrive so I can get busy making for myself...A merry Christmas for me and wish you all a very Blessed Christmas time with family and friends....

Bayou Bud
Upper Toledo Bend

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Hey I live on the South end of Toledo Bend, actually at 6 Mile or about 10 miles South of Hemphill.

Skip

Bayou Bud,
Can you tell me the name of the hair for the Black Lake jigs and a possible supplier? Black Lake is out of business now so I need to make some jigs if possible.

Thanks

i think it is a synthetic, id compare it to the stuff on flytyersdungeon.com

Thanks rich mc! I have seen both synthetic fur and hair so was curious if someone knew which Black Lake was using. The company is now out of business so can’t buy the jigs anymore. I will check out the site you recommended. Thanks again.

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Love those eyeballs.

Like to know what kind of craft hair or fur it is. I used to buy Punisher but it started having a lot of under fibers in it so got some of the hare Line stuff. But the best craft fur for fishing I've ever used is Dougs Bugs who sold out to Targus who doesn't make it anymore but every time I see it on the bay I buy it. I think I'm pretty well set with all of it.

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Sasquatch, definitely, southeastern subspecies.


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