Why I’m trying this line.

I love fishing 1/64 ounce jigs for bluegill. To get what I want in casting distance I use lines from .125mm down to .105mm. Those lines are rated at a true 2 pounds. The Sunline Troutist Area Meister is using an extrusion process that produces 3# test line at 2# test diameters, .128mm. I love fishing Dale Hollow and Center Hill for bluegill. But when when fishing those 2 lakes in the spring for bluegill you best be ready to tangle with a lot of Smallies between 18-22 inches. It can be very stressful.....LOL. This line will allow me to fish those waters for bluegill....readers.....yet give me a lot more confidence when one of those Smallies hit.

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Ah, glad you got some spooled up! Hopefully you will like it!
Bob

I have 2 spools coming. We will see. I am looking forward to trying this line.

So does this line have the monofilament property of stretch? Is it as sharp on the bite detection as the Esters?


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Finesse fishing for multi-species is my preferred method so this sounds very interesting (but somewhat expensive.) As you guys use it please report back with your results. I use a light braid with a very light fc leader and have no problem handling smallies with it. I seldom cast less the 1/32 tho'.

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It has good stretch......great casting distance. It in no way has the sensitivity of the ester lines. While I guess one could say this line is expensive, in my opinion it is not. I used a spool of Varivas 2.5# test for 1.5 years. It was in as good a shape when I took it off as the day I spooled it up. I expect the Sunline to last just as long. I love the ester line....but there are just some fishing situations where I shouldn’t be using it. The line is as easy to see as the orange Varivas I was using. I can tell you the 2 meters of stealth black they have every 10 meters is very hard to see....at least for my old eyes. This line will be the nylon lineup in my mix of ester....FC.....braid. They sell this line from 2-4 pounds in half pound increments.

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Sounds interesting

Who has best price on this line? Didn't see it at Plat.

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I purchased mine from Chris at Finesse Fishing. Neither Plat or Digitaka carry it. You can get it at Global Rakuten but with shipping it is not any cheaper.

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Alphahawk, what reel are you using it on?

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I have it on a 2013 model Shimano TwinPower C2000HGS.

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In your latest video I noticed you were using a Fluorocarbon line in 3lb made by Sunline. How does it compare to this nylon line? Just curious, especially on the hard pulling Whites.

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In your latest video I noticed you were using a Fluorocarbon line in 3lb made by Sunline. How does it compare to this nylon line? Just curious, especially on the hard pulling Whites.

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Stan that Sunline FC line is great but the next time I buy some it will be the 2# test. The 3# test handles 3 gram baits very well....you can cast 2 gram with it but not very far...and 1 gram is a no go with the 3# test FC. It is more sensitive than the nylon. I feel more in control when fighting hard pulling fish with this line. I highly suspect it tests out greater than 3 pounds.

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I guess I don't get to fish often enough to worry about it, but how long will a line of that gauge last before needing replaced.

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I guess I don't get to fish often enough to worry about it, but how long will a line of that gauge last before needing replaced.

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I fully expect to get a full year out of it.....maybe a few months more.

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Stan that Sunline FC line is great but the next time I buy some it will be the 2# test. The 3# test handles 3 gram baits very well....you can cast 2 gram with it but not very far...and 1 gram is a no go with the 3# test FC. It is more sensitive than the nylon. I feel more in control when fighting hard pulling fish with this line. I highly suspect it tests out greater than 3 pounds.

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We have now played with the 2, 2.5, and 3lb of the BMS Fluorocarbon, the 2lb cast significantly farther for me on 1.5gr or less baits, than the 3lb we started with. 2.5 is close distance wise to 3lb with similar break strength to the 2lb... I was hoping the 2.5 would be the end all, but the 2lb is plenty strong and casts almost as far as I can with the Varivas ester.

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We have now played with the 2, 2.5, and 3lb of the BMS Fluorocarbon, the 2lb cast significantly farther for me on 1.5gr or less baits, than the 3lb we started with. 2.5 is close distance wise to 3lb with similar break strength to the 2lb... I was hoping the 2.5 would be the end all, but the 2lb is plenty strong and casts almost as far as I can with the Varivas ester.

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Yodie where did you find the 2# test?

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Well randy, here’s hoping it performs as well as we need it to. I ordered some of it a few days ago, along with some of the bright green stuff(forget the name) . The smaller guides of the Leyland rod I have likes the Stren Crappie 2lb ok but I think I can gat a better cast out of some Nanofil or some smaller diameter line. I have a reel with the 2lb Nanofil on it but I want to try other lines with an in biased eye. The 3lb Fireline Crystal doesn’t git it. Maybe after it’s used a while and softens some but to much rigidity right now. If I’m as throwing 1/32 or heavier it would be extra sweet and tough, but the heaviest I use lately is a 1/43 and down to 1/80. Looking forward to this.

I have some 1lb Nanofil but just haven’t felt that brave yet.

The 2# fire line Siglon F is a great throwing line, I throw 1/64th oz 25'- 30' with it. I use the orange to see. I am using 3# ester on my other set ups. I use JDM rods in 5.5 to 7' long. I have some of the more expensive lines coming. Don't you love it?

A lot of fun!

Asian Fishing Portal originally, but I can't seem to find it on their site today.

SUNLINE Shooter FC SNIPER BMS AZAYAKA 82.5yds.(75m)-2lb

Has it now, I have never ordered from them, but they take PayPal so Im not too concerned, I will order it from them soon as I need another spool or two. We have found it on eBay as well for a slightly higher but still reasonable price with shipping included.

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Asian Fishing Portal originally, but I can't seem to find it on their site today.

SUNLINE Shooter FC SNIPER BMS AZAYAKA 82.5yds.(75m)-2lb

Has it now, I have never ordered from them, but they take PayPal so Im not too concerned, I will order it from them soon as I need another spool or two. We have found it on eBay as well for a slightly higher but still reasonable price with shipping included.

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Tryp, this is my first line of this type. Pretty much domestic 2 lb and Nanofil in 2 lb is the extent of my experience. High hopes for what I ordered.

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Well randy, here’s hoping it performs as well as we need it to. I ordered some of it a few days ago, along with some of the bright green stuff(forget the name) . The smaller guides of the Leyland rod I have likes the Stren Crappie 2lb ok but I think I can gat a better cast out of some Nanofil or some smaller diameter line. I have a reel with the 2lb Nanofil on it but I want to try other lines with an in biased eye. The 3lb Fireline Crystal doesn’t git it. Maybe after it’s used a while and softens some but to much rigidity right now. If I’m as throwing 1/32 or heavier it would be extra sweet and tough, but the heaviest I use lately is a 1/43 and down to 1/80. Looking forward to this.

I have some 1lb Nanofil but just haven’t felt that brave yet.

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Skeet I have really tested the line. It will be a great tool to have on my reel targeting Smallies with the UL gear. I have caught a couple of hundred white bass the past 2 weeks with it. While only a few of them were decent sized fish the line performed flawlessly. Casting distance is superb....the line is limp and so far does not show any signs of memory. The visibility of the orange portion of the line is very good. The smoke color portion of the line that is used to tie to the lure is almost invisible to my eyes. It is certainly a game changer for me.

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Keep it going boys, this is a great thread, thank you, Alphahawk for the info.

Do you use any f/c? If not what do you do when the you’ve used up the 2m of black line and you’re into the orange. Looking to order some of this line and giving it a try after only using 2lb mono in the past. Would this match up with a Trout Slayer rod?

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Do you use any f/c? If not what do you do when the you’ve used up the 2m of black line and you’re into the orange. Looking to order some of this line and giving it a try after only using 2lb mono in the past. Would this match up with a Trout Slayer rod?

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Good question. Hope someone has tried that combo.
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The trout slayer rod was probably designed to be fished with the 2lb sos line so I see no reason why another 2lb line wouldn’t work just fine... just my 2 cents

I have one of the trout slayer rods with the airwave guides. While it did OK last weekend with Stren Crappie in 2lb hi vis, I wasn’t overly impressed. I’ve heard a lot of hype about them but it doesn’t cast as well as some of my other rods with regular guides. Even the 2lb Nanofil wasn’t exemplary. This morning I wound on some 3lb fireline as backing and the entire spool of the area Meister and I’m happy to report that it casts about 10 to 15’ further than with anything else I’ve tried so far. The jig used in all comparisons was a 1/43 ball head with a body of some sort on each. Hope this helps, I’m going through the learning curve with this stuff too. Man, it is tiny.

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Jim I have not had that issue yet. I used a spool of nylon Varivas 2.5# test for a year.....their hi-vis color for the line at that time was orange.....now it is green. But I used an FC leader when using that line. There were also times I used it without any leader and I did not notice any decrease in my catch rate. So when I use up the 2 meter section of the smoke color I will just tie to the orange. I used the ester line and the Varivas nylon line when I was doing reviews on the Trout Slayer rod and both cast just fine....so I’m think this line will work very well with it. Of course this a trout line but I will very rarely use it for trout fishing. I bought it to use for white bass and smallmouth.

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Alphahawk, does your trout slayer rod have the airwave guides?

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Yes....I’ve had about 5 of them. Gave them all away on my channel or to folks that couldn’t really afford a fishing rod. It was not the first rod I’ve owned with those guides. As to the claim of extra casting distance I had no way to verify that as I would need the BnM version of the rod to do that. I don’t think it hurts casting distance though. Those guides do away with line slap and it makes casting quieter. I used the rod a lot to field test it. In February I’ll be getting the BnM version to test out and give away.

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I used 4lb Stren Crappie on my TSS this past season. I’m with Randy in that I don’t think it added anything one way or the other. Maybe 4 lb test has something to do with it. Don’t get me wrong, I really like the rod a lot, but maybe it’s more of a marketing thing. The TSS got me into ultralight fishing.
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Bob, I drank the Koolaid of ultralight a very long time ago. But I’ve always had a pretty unremarkable rod. Had a 5’ Fenwick once that someone lost over the side and never replaced, and a Browning Silaflex rod when I was in my twenties. Other than that I’ve pretty much been runnin junk. This TSS and Browning Airstream that I just bought are the nicest I’ve ever owned, and if I understand right, nowhere near up to the quality and action of the JDM stuff that a lot of you use. I seldom fish open water and even when I find some beds to work, there’s a lot of junk nearby and I couldn’t relax having an expensive rod of that caliber in my hand. Maybe these will change my mind, they’re awful nice to me.