Livesope Video Game Tournaments

Crappie Masters has spider rigging tournaments and single pole only tournaments. Wonder if they would consider having a few select tournaments where Livescope would not be allowed. Regular vs video game tournaments. In fact, maybe they could work with Atari and set up an online gaming tournaments. No boats or even rods required. All you need is an Atari joystick controller. You could fish any lake in the country from the comfort of your recliner. No longer would you have to worry about fishing pressure, creel and size limits.

That’s how advancing technology works. Time to change or fall behind. If it’s legal people are gonna use it, not to mention it’s an awesome tool to have


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This is going to go south quick lol.


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Seems to be two types of people. Those that have it and those that hate those that have it. ¯\_(?)_/¯

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To each their own, has changed the game for sure

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Time will tell

No haters here. There will be one on my rig as soon as the Xmas bonus check is cashed for sure. Just making light of the "Livescope Phenomenon". Seriously tho I love that the ACT is an "anything goes" circuit while the Crappie Master Circuit has their one pole challenge tournaments. As a Nascar fan I like that there is 1.5 mile races and superspeedway races, and half mile races and love the road races. Maybe Crappie Masters adding a no livescope or no electronics tournament is not too far fectched. Adds a little spice to the gumbo. Just a thought. However if tounranments turn into 55 boats flying around fight pilot style (one guy navigating and scoping while the other sticks the target) spotlighting big fish then I am not sure how that promotes the "overall" sport. Just my 2 cents.

Rules state no underwater cameras are allowed. I know livescope is considered sonar but sure the heck looks like a great camera to me. I really enjoyed tourney fishing but this is ridiculous and it has pushed me out. It’s only my personal opinion but simply put it’s a matter of who has the most money for the finest electronics. They are pushing the blue collar fisherman into their own league...

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Originally Posted by astone

Rules state no underwater cameras are allowed. I know livescope is considered sonar but sure the heck looks like a great camera to me. I really enjoyed tourney fishing but this is ridiculous and it has pushed me out. It’s only my personal opinion but simply put it’s a matter of who has the most money for the finest electronics. They are pushing the blue collar fisherman into their own league...

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i agree it’s taken a lot out of it for me as well. I feel like it’s taken a lot away from those who learned fish behavior and located fish faster because of knowledge. Now that doesn’t even matter. I’m not giving up I’m learning as fast as I can new ways of fishing with these new electronics. I don’t like it one bit though

simple. Don't fish tournaments that allow it. Fun fishing will still be fine without it. Just keep doing what you like and don't worry about the other fellows./ I can't see how it would help me much when I set out 5 or 6 dozen Yo-Yos.

It will definitely continue to affect the tournament world of fishing, seems now the only thing separating a decent fishermen from a good one is about $4,000 to spend on the new technology. I do understand you still have to learn how to use it and interpret what your seeing to be consistently successful. The biggest downfall I see with the technology is once it gets to be the norm then the average fishermen will suffer the most, not the guys tournament fishing but the one's who just enjoy getting out and catching a few for a meal or for fun.

For some reason most people I've seen see catching and releasing crappie as some sort of sin. I keep a mess from time to time, but have gotten to where I could careless about cleaning a limit on each outing and I can only eat so many fish or provide friends or family with fillets.

It will all boil down to individual conservation ethics as the technology evolves. Hats off to the tournament trail's who strive to release 100% of the fish caught in their competitions to the lakes they were harvested from. Creel limits will decrease and possibly length limits will increase as well. Although crappie are abundant as of now they are not an infinite resource, take what you need and leave a few for seed. I have no problem with technology as long as it's used responsibly.

And on a side note MO Bushwhaker, I think Nintendo has had the edge on Atari in the video game world the last few year's [emoji23][emoji23]

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I always said nothing beats time on the water... but that’s all changed. My new saying is nothing beats time on the water with livescope.
It’ll blow your mind what you’ll learn about fish behavior in your first trip out. Youll prove theories you’ve fished by your whole life wrong.
I personally think it’s the best teaching tool for fish behavior I’ve ever seen.






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Livescope is a low resolution under water camera. If u don’t think so you probably think Epstein killed himself��

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Livescope is a low resolution under water camera. If u don’t think so you probably think Epstein killed himself��

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i agree it’s taken a lot out of it for me as well. I feel like it’s taken a lot away from those who learned fish behavior and located fish faster because of knowledge. Now that doesn’t even matter. I’m not giving up I’m learning as fast as I can new ways of fishing with these new electronics. I don’t like it one bit though

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Quit whining. You didn’t have a problem when it was YOU that was winning everything, and you still get more than your fair share now. Fishermen and women still gotta FIND the right fish and CATCH em just like before. These new guys just have a different “Knowledge” than you have. Mathew Rogers has as much knowledge about fishing as anyone I’ve ever met. He won his Natl. Championship last year WITHOUT A SCOPE, and was only 2nd this year With the Scope!!!!! [emoji23][emoji23][emoji23]

I guess us spider riggers see what the single pole guys have been griping about. They were just as afraid of spider riggers ruining the fisheries as some think the Scope Guys will.

Quit fretting and go fishing. Either buy the technology or don’t. I think most will, even the weekenders.

If ya Need em, Eat em, but throw the rest back!!!!

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Here's my two cents (which is probably worth about half of that)....I am straddling the fence about the whole use of Livescope in tournaments, but I am not a tournament fisherman so its kind of hard for me to have a solid opinion on that matter.

With that said, I will have one on my boat as soon as the money is there to do it and I am lucky if I get to fish a couple of times a month!! Why would I purchase it??? Because as little as I get to fish I need to try and be as productive as possible. Mainly, I would love to know if I am fishing areas that aren't holding any fish. In times past I simply fish certain areas I know (or where everyone else is) and hope for the best. I know people constantly say you "have to put your time in on the water" and I agree with that to a point, but for a guy like me that just isn't possible at this stage of my life. If something like Livescope help me put a few more fish in the boat it will be well worth it to me. And in the end that is what we are all out to do.....catch fish.

I think you will find there will be a lot of guys in the same boat (pun intended) as I am who purchase it for the same reason. We are those who just don't get to go very often and need a little bit of help making the most of the few outings we get to go. And lets be honest, in the end you still have to know how to use it properly (which I bet will be a pretty decent learning curve for me) and even then it doesn't guarantee the fish will bite. The debate has been going on since the beginning of time and will every time something new comes out for the fishing world. And you can bet your bottom dollar that Livescope will likely be "ancient" compared to what they will have in another 5 or so years!

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Here's my two cents (which is probably worth about half of that)....I am straddling the fence about the whole use of Livescope in tournaments, but I am not a tournament fisherman so its kind of hard for me to have a solid opinion on that matter.

With that said, I will have one on my boat as soon as the money is there to do it and I am lucky if I get to fish a couple of times a month!! Why would I purchase it??? Because as little as I get to fish I need to try and be as productive as possible. Mainly, I would love to know if I am fishing areas that aren't holding any fish. In times past I simply fish certain areas I know (or where everyone else is) and hope for the best. I know people constantly say you "have to put your time in on the water" and I agree with that to a point, but for a guy like me that just isn't possible at this stage of my life. If something like Livescope help me put a few more fish in the boat it will be well worth it to me. And in the end that is what we are all out to do.....catch fish.

I think you will find there will be a lot of guys in the same boat (pun intended) as I am who purchase it for the same reason. We are those who just don't get to go very often and need a little bit of help making the most of the few outings we get to go. And lets be honest, in the end you still have to know how to use it properly (which I bet will be a pretty decent learning curve for me) and even then it doesn't guarantee the fish will bite. The debate has been going on since the beginning of time and will every time something new comes out for the fishing world. And you can bet your bottom dollar that Livescope will likely be "ancient" compared to what they will have in another 5 or so years!

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Lets see if I get this right. If you fish a LITTLE it’s ok to get one to be more productive with your time on the water, but if you fish A LOT, it’s not ok because it makes you TO PRODUCTIVE???? [emoji23][emoji23][emoji23][emoji23][emoji23]


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Quit whining. You didn’t have a problem when it was YOU that was winning everything, and you still get more than your fair share now. Fishermen and women still gotta FIND the right fish and CATCH em just like before. These new guys just have a different “Knowledge” than you have. Mathew Rogers has as much knowledge about fishing as anyone I’ve ever met. He won his Natl. Championship last year WITHOUT A SCOPE, and was only 2nd this year With the Scope!!!!! [emoji23][emoji23][emoji23]

I guess us spider riggers see what the single pole guys have been griping about. They were just as afraid of spider riggers ruining the fisheries as some think the Scope Guys will.

Quit fretting and go fishing. Either buy the technology or don’t. I think most will, even the weekenders.

If ya Need em, Eat em, but throw the rest back!!!!

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pretty sure he was using Livescope when he won the national championship

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Lets see if I get this right. If you fish a LITTLE it’s ok to get one to be more productive with your time on the water, but if you fish A LOT, it’s not ok because it makes you TO PRODUCTIVE???? [emoji23][emoji23][emoji23][emoji23][emoji23]


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Don't see where I said that at all.....I'm all for Livescope and other electronics on the market no matter how much you fish. I simply stated an opinion from my point of view which is someone who doesn't fish much and how it could be advantageous. Never once did I say if you fish alot "its not Ok" Not sure how you took that from my post but sure wasn't the intent.

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pretty sure he was using Livescope when he won the national championship

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Won the ACT not the Crappie Masters National, was using it in both. First National Championship he won without it, if I am not mistaken.

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Won the ACT not the Crappie Masters National, was using it in both. First National Championship he won without it, if I am not mistaken.

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This is correct. The LiveScope wasn’t available for the 2018 season. Came out after the Natl. Championship on Truman last year. He was 2nd this year at the Grenada CM Natl. Championship behind Carlyle and his partner.


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Originally Posted by Bluesraider

Don't see where I said that at all.....I'm all for Livescope and other electronics on the market no matter how much you fish. I simply stated an opinion from my point of view which is someone who doesn't fish much and how it could be advantageous. Never once did I say if you fish alot "its not Ok" Not sure how you took that from my post but sure wasn't the intent.

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Smile, I was messin with ya. [emoji4]


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A simple google search will tell you that Livescope has been available since June 2018. Don’t know the guy or if he used it or not but it was out there

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Originally Posted by BigRiverMarine

Quit whining. You didn’t have a problem when it was YOU that was winning everything, and you still get more than your fair share now. Fishermen and women still gotta FIND the right fish and CATCH em just like before. These new guys just have a different “Knowledge” than you have. Mathew Rogers has as much knowledge about fishing as anyone I’ve ever met. He won his Natl. Championship last year WITHOUT A SCOPE, and was only 2nd this year With the Scope!!!!! [emoji23][emoji23][emoji23]

I guess us spider riggers see what the single pole guys have been griping about. They were just as afraid of spider riggers ruining the fisheries as some think the Scope Guys will.

Quit fretting and go fishing. Either buy the technology or don’t. I think most will, even the weekenders.

If ya Need em, Eat em, but throw the rest back!!!!

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First of all I wouldn’t consider my response to this post as whining. I agreed that live scope has taken some of that fire in me I used to have when fishing tournaments. Is that whining? Heck NO!! I personally think that having 10 years of logs with over 1000 trips means nothing in tournament fishing now. I think all the knowledge that Ronnie and Steve have means so much less now. I think it Going to take away from a lot of great fisherman. That’s why I said I don’t like it one bit.

Secondly you need to do your homework before you tell me Mathew Rogers has ever won a thing before live scope, much less a national championship. Check it out and get back with me.

Thirdly I was the single poler raising cane from way back.... I’ve lived both worlds. This is much different.

Fourthly ive got livescope, and I’ve had live scope for several months. Like I said in my comment I’m working on it every chance I get. I’m competitive and love the sport. I’m not going to let this take it away. I’ll learn to use it the way I want to fish and I can promise you without it you won’t beat me.

OK guys, lets take it down a notch please. Not really directed at anyone here except maybe BRM. :yikes Just trying to keep the peace. Seems like this darn livescope has become as controversial as politics these day!

For those haven't seen a video on livescope go to GEORIGA bored and look at lake oconee live scope good video on it

Impeach Livescope......

All I want to know is how they figure out who fishes and who holds the dip net for 8 hours?

Just enjoy fishing and don’t worry about anybody else. Things change nothing anybody can do about it. Learn the new technology or don’t up to you. But fishing is supposed to be relaxing taking away the problems of every day life just enjoy your way of fishing


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I feel so inadequate..... don’t have any sonar at all on the front of my boat. Old 1197 at the helm that I turn around so I can see from the front. It’s a wonder I catch anything at all!


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I feel so inadequate..... don’t have any sonar at all on the front of my boat. Old 1197 at the helm that I turn around so I can see from the front. It’s a wonder I catch anything at all!


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Yep, it's a wonder a good fisherman like you can still catch fish! NOT. good is still good

I will say it’s funny watching folks with livescope. Myself included probably. Looks like they’re asleep in the front of the boat watching the screen. [emoji23]
When I first put it on the boat me and Will were playing with it and there was one fish going crazy on the screen. I told will “look at that one son.. hes going crazy” then we realized he was hooked. [emoji23]


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OK guys, lets take it down a notch please. Not really directed at anyone here except maybe BRM. :yikes Just trying to keep the peace. Seems like this darn livescope has become as controversial as politics these day!

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Oops! Sorry Slab for starting this thread. It was nine degrees up here and I was bored to death. No more Livescope subjects from me. Well except for "Can someone help me figure this darn thing out" threads when I save enough money to but my own. LOL!

With that, I'll go ahead and close this wonderful topic! :bash