3 or 4 Piece Rod vs Telescopic Rod

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11-11-2019, 06:47 PM
D10

3 or 4 Piece Rod vs Telescopic Rod

So this past summer I did tons of creek wading/fishing. On the more remote creeks, I had a tough time getting in a two piece or one piece rod. I think that if I could find something a little more compact, it might open things up for me next summer. Anyone have any experience with ultralight or light action telescopic rods or 3 or 4 piece rods? I have read some on this topic and It sounds like telescopic rods can be a little fragile. Any experience with either would be appreciated.

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11-11-2019, 07:10 PM
DockShootinJack

Most fly rods are 3 to 4 section. I have a 5 weight that I would say would be ultralight. A lot of the old timers used flyrods to jig with. They put a small spinning reel on it and went fishing
11-11-2019, 07:12 PM
Eagle 1

Daiwa , makes(sells under their name ) a nice compact ultralight . Not sure about number of pieces . Brother does a lot of hiking and carries one .
11-11-2019, 07:57 PM
Alphahawk

I don’t have any experience but there are some good 4 piece JDM rods available. Daiwa....Tenryu.....Major Craft and Shimano have some good pack rods. Chris Stewart...over at Finesse Fishing has experience with some pack rods. The new Fine Tail pack rod is well liked in the UK. See video:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ODXH...ature=youtu.be

Regards

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11-12-2019, 05:53 AM
skeetbum

I had one of the diawa packages already mentioned. Good little rig with a soft action, at least the one I had was. For a full time rod I didn’t care for it, but I carried it in the truck and had fun with it several times. Never dealt with a collapsible. Some of the multipiece rods I’ve handled in outdoor stores have been very good and I felt at the time that they were worth the money.
11-12-2019, 07:39 AM
yobuck

Both BnM and Mr Crappie make a telescopic Bream rod which i feel are nice rods and very similar to a Fly rod.
The BnM is called (Little Jewel), the one i have is 9’.
I have both a 9’ and a 10’ Mr Crappie Bream rods.
Actually the 10’ BnM telescopic (Black Widow) rod is pretty sensitive also to my mind and can handle a larger fish.
11-12-2019, 09:20 AM
DockShootinJack

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The world famous Pocket Fisherman.
11-12-2019, 07:10 PM
whiskerwhipper

Telescopic rod..........better than a handline :)
11-13-2019, 07:20 AM
D10

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Originally Posted by DockShootinJack

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The world famous Pocket Fisherman.

My office manager actually found one of those at a yard sale. I tried to help her get it in working order but it was missing some parts. Pretty funny.

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11-13-2019, 07:21 AM
D10

Thanks for the responses guys.

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11-13-2019, 08:53 AM
DRFISHDUCK

My favorite "only" hobby is fishing but if I had to use a pocket fisherman I would consider 1000 piece puzzles or ?

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11-13-2019, 05:52 PM
VaCrappieMan

There is a 4 piece tenyru rayz that is a 5 foot for 20% off on Plat right now but it is still pricey
11-13-2019, 05:54 PM
VaCrappieMan

Tried to pm you but full... you are popular haha
11-13-2019, 05:55 PM
DockShootinJack

Quote:

Originally Posted by D10

My office manager actually found one of those at a yard sale. I tried to help her get it in working order but it was missing some parts. Pretty funny.

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You can't have grown up in the 80's and not remember this Saturday morning infomercial
11-13-2019, 05:56 PM
DockShootinJack

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Originally Posted by DRFISHDUCK

My favorite "only" hobby is fishing but if I had to use a pocket fisherman I would consider 1000 piece puzzles or ?

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I hear you there. I would like to know how many were sold
11-13-2019, 06:01 PM
DockShootinJack

Well theough the power of the internet I found out between the new and original version there has been more than 2 million of the pocket fisherman sold
11-13-2019, 06:09 PM
D10

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Originally Posted by VaCrappieMan

Tried to pm you but full... you are popular haha

I’ll clear out some room. Try again.

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11-13-2019, 06:30 PM
D10

Quote:

Originally Posted by DockShootinJack

You can't have grown up in the 80's and not remember this Saturday morning infomercial

Yep I remember them well.

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11-13-2019, 07:41 PM
Knotty

Tsurinoya makes a 4 piece UL/L travel rod called the PARTNER. I have one. 6'3" and it comes with two tips, tubular and solid. Have hardly fished it, so can't comment on how it performs. Bought it for travel. I also like wading small streams and have been weighing the benefits of 4 piece vs. telescopic. I think telescopic better suits my needs because you can quickly collapse it, leaving it rigged and ready. Just haven't decided on the right rod yet. Want it to be capable of casting Trout Magnets.
11-13-2019, 09:13 PM
D10

Quote:

Originally Posted by Knotty

Tsurinoya makes a 4 piece UL/L travel rod called the PARTNER. I have one. 6'3" and it comes with two tips, tubular and solid. Have hardly fished it, so can't comment on how it performs. Bought it for travel. I also like wading small streams and have been weighing the benefits of 4 piece vs. telescopic. I think telescopic better suits my needs because you can quickly collapse it, leaving it rigged and ready. Just haven't decided on the right rod yet. Want it to be capable of casting Trout Magnets.

I have the same thoughts. It sure seems like a telescopic rod could be collapsed and extended very quickly. This would be handy when wading stream where some travel through dense brush and trees is needed. I am a little worried about the durability of this type of rod though.

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11-13-2019, 10:25 PM
deathb4disco

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Originally Posted by D10

I am a little worried about the durability of this type of rod though.

I don't think they're any less durable than other rods. Telescopic rods were around for a long time in the rest of the world. I have a telescopic Euro float rod that's probably thirty years old. I've taken carp over 10# on it.
11-14-2019, 09:44 AM
deathb4disco

Quote:

Originally Posted by Alphahawk

I don’t have any experience but there are some good 4 piece JDM rods available. Daiwa....Tenryu.....Major Craft and Shimano have some good pack rods. Chris Stewart...over at Finesse Fishing has experience with some pack rods. The new Fine Tail pack rod is well liked in the UK. See video:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ODXHZHP4OkM&feature=youtu.be

That travel rod looks great. I might jump on that myself. ;)
11-14-2019, 12:14 PM
yobuck

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Originally Posted by D10

I have the same thoughts. It sure seems like a telescopic rod could be collapsed and extended very quickly. This would be handy when wading stream where some travel through dense brush and trees is needed. I am a little worried about the durability of this type of rod though.

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Obviously telescopic rods aren’t designed with casting in mind, and at least most users, (myself included), don’t use them when casting is required.
As for durability, i find the 20 or so various sizes i have to be as durable as any of my other rods.
But think of it this way (big spenders), for the price of a case of fairly cheap beer you could buy 2 of them and find out for yourself. Lol
It is a little harder to slam a car door on a tip, provided of coarse you’ve followed the common sense instructions which aren’t included. Lol
For drifting especially on shallower lakes while using bobbers they are hard to beat. I even use them for spider rigging the shallow lakes.
11-14-2019, 01:21 PM
deathb4disco

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Originally Posted by yobuck

Obviously telescopic rods aren’t designed with casting in mind ...

The telescopic rods mentioned in the OP and my telescopic float rod are absolutely designed for casting. See here for examples:

https://www.amazon.com/s?k=telescopi...b_sb_ss_i_3_11
11-15-2019, 09:00 AM
Chris Stewart

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Either a telescopic rod or a 3-4 piece rod is a viable option for small stream fishing and there are advantages and disadvantages to each. There are also lots of choices for each (and I am familiar with only a very few). For the sake of comparison, consider the Daiwa Wise Stream 53UL-3, a 5'3" 3 piece rod and the Daiwa Wise Stream 50TUL, a 5'0" telescopic rod. The price is the same ($215 if I had them in stock, which I don't). Both are rated for 2-6 lb line and 1.5-7gram lures (about 1/20 to 1/4 oz). Build quality is the same on both. Both have the same limited warranty (one year, one part, one time). The big difference on the warranty, though, is that it is easy to get a replacement part for the 3-piece rod. For the telescopic rod, you can replace the tip section yourself but if any other section breaks, the rod has to be sent back to Japan for repair. The telescopic rod clearly is more convenient to collapse and extend when you want to move from spot to spot on a small, brushy creek, though, and if you are careful you'll probably never break it. You do have to be more careful with the telescopic rod, particularly putting on and taking off the protective tip cap. (Personally, I think it would be safer to always just keep it rigged as shown in the photo below. The rod does not come with a hook keeper, but a Fuji EZ Keeper works well.)

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Daiwa Wise Stream 50TUL

Of course, you COULD keep a 3 or 4-piece rod rigged as well, broken down with rubber bands to hold the pieces together, which might be more convenient than restringing the rod but wouldn't be nearly as convenient as collapsing a telescopic rod.

Attachment 359784
Daiwa Wise Stream 49L-3 (I don't have a photo of the 53UL-3 but it is very similar)

The Tenryu Rayz Integral RZI50UL-4 is a much higher quality rod, but it is also much more expensive.
Attachment 359788
11-15-2019, 09:36 AM
deathb4disco

Quote:

Originally Posted by Chris Stewart

(Personally, I think it would be safer to always just keep it rigged as shown in the photo below.

Attachment 359781
Daiwa Wise Stream 50TUL

This is how I keep mine rigged.

Rerigging it every time you fish defeats the purpose, IMO.
11-15-2019, 10:15 AM
D10

Quote:

Originally Posted by Chris Stewart

Either a telescopic rod or a 3-4 piece rod is a viable option for small stream fishing and there are advantages and disadvantages to each. There are also lots of choices for each (and I am familiar with only a very few). For the sake of comparison, consider the Daiwa Wise Stream 53UL-3, a 5'3" 3 piece rod and the Daiwa Wise Stream 50TUL, a 5'0" telescopic rod. The price is the same ($215 if I had them in stock, which I don't). Both are rated for 2-6 lb line and 1.5-7gram lures (about 1/20 to 1/4 oz). Build quality is the same on both. Both have the same limited warranty (one year, one part, one time). The big difference on the warranty, though, is that it is easy to get a replacement part for the 3-piece rod. For the telescopic rod, you can replace the tip section yourself but if any other section breaks, the rod has to be sent back to Japan for repair. The telescopic rod clearly is more convenient to collapse and extend when you want to move from spot to spot on a small, brushy creek, though, and if you are careful you'll probably never break it. You do have to be more careful with the telescopic rod, particularly putting on and taking off the protective tip cap. (Personally, I think it would be safer to always just keep it rigged as shown in the photo below. The rod does not come with a hook keeper, but a Fuji EZ Keeper works well.)

Attachment 359781
Daiwa Wise Stream 50TUL

Of course, you COULD keep a 3 or 4-piece rod rigged as well, broken down with rubber bands to hold the pieces together, which might be more convenient than restringing the rod but wouldn't be nearly as convenient as collapsing a telescopic rod.

Attachment 359784
Daiwa Wise Stream 49L-3 (I don't have a photo of the 53UL-3 but it is very similar)

The Tenryu Rayz Integral RZI50UL-4 is a much higher quality rod, but it is also much more expensive.
Attachment 359788

Thanks for the thorough comparison Chris!

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11-16-2019, 02:02 PM
Don Fischer

Place's like Bi Mart and Walmart got little pack rods. I'm guessing that's what your thinking? Not a flyrod? I've got a small ultra light spinning rod and reel by Shakespere I've had for many years. made a wood box to carry it in the truck, class 8, with me when I was still working. Box is 3 1/2"x6"x21". Have a four piece rod in it, small reel and a bunch of different bait's, plastic and hooks. I could pack it with pretty much what ever I want. No idea why I don't use it more! Maybe next spring I'll get it out for some crappie. Probably need new line on it. Line on it now is over 20 yrs old!