Be careful who you share info with re small waters

A few days ago I saw a woman casting from shore and she asked what I was using to catch 16 fish. I not only told her but gave her advice what to use and some of my lures with light jigs. She was using large Senko type lures for bass. Getting up there in age, I'm more trusting than not and something should have alerted me that this angler was not what she claimed - a beginner.

First off she had a bag well stocked with bass lures and other tackle - not something a beginner would have in tow. Second, she used braid and mono on her spinning reels and poles that were the right action and length. Third, she said she caught two bass from shore which translated to her knowing how to use soft sticks, detect strikes and a hard hook set.

She was nice enough to share info about another lake but was wrong about car top boat access - there wasn't any according to a park employee I called.

Now, being that she doesn't have a car top boat or kayak to fish from (to my knowledge), she's at a big disadvantage fishing this small lake. Problem is that she could share the information given including light finesse lures that do very well anywhere and especially on this lake.

I hope I'm wrong sharing info with someone that's possibly not what she claimed to be and especially telling her to search for my name and informative posts on Crappie.com. If not wrong, I've got to keep my mouth shut and keep the conversation non-informative when it comes to small waters. I have another long time buddy that fishes another water we both fish that I can count on to keep our shared information between us and is always forthcoming with his discoveries. Not the case in this example.

Good we don't need anybody catching our fish.

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Originally Posted by Spoonminnow

Problem is that she could share the information given including light finesse lures that do very well anywhere and especially on this lake.

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Yes, that would be tragic. Imagine the gall of this woman to share information with other people.

She will be there tomorrow in a 21 foot bass boat

She’s probably a Russian sleeper agent

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Originally Posted by FurFlyin

She’s probably a Russian sleeper agent

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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZwUT8JAjMWU

Probably Jimmy Houston's wife lol

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:witching Interesting

If shes ketchn n releasing ditch pickles shes probably harmless. I frequently do that and wash up with bacterial soap afterwards.

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Unfortunately, I don’t think I understand the infraction committed. :dono

If she has a fishing license which I'm sure she does I hope she catches some fish and has fun.

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I'm 78. i tell everything i know. I don't care if they are on my spot tomorrow. It doesn't matter. Find another spot . Life is short and there are more important issues.

I would have given her my fish also. But that's me. I'm crazy like that.

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Originally Posted by DockShootinJack

She will be there tomorrow in a 21 foot bass boat

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:Rofl

Good thing car top only. Good one.

I would be suspicious that she is an operative from the (DNFA) Democratic National Fishing Alliance. Now, you have to be careful too... because there's surely going to be endless investigations as to just how it is that you came by the information that you shared... and just who you may have colluded with in gaining said information.

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Some of these comments have really "made my day"! LOL!

all females scare me so I would never ever chat with one without a real good reason ...
and most specifically especially if she can ketch fish ….bad on you mister :Rofl

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the article in the local news paper on the front page reads …..Some nice guy gave up the scoop on whatever lake and its game on yawl .
They are biting this and that this time of day in this location . its best to launch on such and such boat ramp and get there EARLY ….
Because there is a line at that boat ramp right now about 1.5 miles long :Rofl

I know many of you will not agree with my comments, but I feel compelled to add them anyway. We do not own the waters or the fish that
live within the waters. In addition, think back to the numerous times you have asked fishing questions here on crappie dot com, in the bait stores, or on the fishing. If you are like me, you appreciated the time(s) when individuals took the time to enlighten you. I choose to look at the positive in this situation that an older person was out enjoying herself fishing and wanted to talk with someone. If she learned a tip or two so be it! Life is to short to make mountains out of molehills.

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That's funny rotfl

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:Rofl

Good thing car top only. Good one.

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That could be a car topper down south. :biggrin

shipahoy is totally correct in his approach from my perspective .
if I meet you on the water I will do whatever I can to help you ketch fish if you want me to .
I wont likely give up the entire enchilada on the internet though as those gleaning information like that have not made an effort to go ketch fish at that point .

Oh I agree. I was fishing one day my home lake and noticed this boat that had this couple and 2 daughters in it. They were fishing and I watched for a while and noticed they weren’t catching anything and the daughters were starting to get bored. I pulled my anchor and paddled over to them and struck up conversation. Told them exactly where to go and how to catch them, depth, everything. Told them it was great to see a family fishing together. I then paddled away and left them at it. Hopefully they did as I told because the fish were biting good that day and those girls would surely have enjoyed catching them.

There is probably nothing to it but I would make sure to keep my doors locked.

I am one of those blabbermouths that give away all I know about current fishing conditions when asked or if I see a person having problems catching anything. I love being on the water so fishing is more important to me than catching and catching large numbers is more important than catching trophy size fish. So it does not bother me to help someone else as I have been helped in the past.

Nor does it bother me when somebody else is fishing the spot I told them about last week. I just move on to the next spot. Or look for new spots, as finding new spots is as much fun for me as fishing known spots.

I even invite people to fish my slips when I am not fishing them. The fish they catch will be replaced by those who move in when the spot becomes vacant.

Now if I am fishing a spot on the lake or the slips that is a different story. I don't like being crowded when I fish.

Crappie limits here in Ks went from 50 to 20 at many lakes big and small. 2 slabs make a big meal for 1 person. 20 slabs is a lot of meat.

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Originally Posted by DRFISHDUCK

Crappie limits here in Ks went from 50 to 20 at many lakes big and small. 2 slabs make a big meal for 1 person. 20 slabs is a lot of meat.

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Texas is 25, 10" to keep. Some states have no size limit, some states have an 8" limit. Joe Pool Lake, my home lake, would do better to have an 8" limit to remove a lot of the smaller crappie from the lake. I personally would not keep anything that small as I fillet what I catch but it would help to have smaller ones kept.

Don't get me wrong, if I see a parent with a child or an angler fishing from shore that doesn't have a clue, I may even give them jigs and lures that will help them catch fish as well as show them the best presentation(s) for those lures. I have the advantage of a boat and sonar that they don't have and feel lucky and fortunate to have discovered so much in the last few decades not only dispelling fishing myths but finding potential locations in many waters I fish - both essential to catching more fish. As Buck Perry said long ago, catchable fish are in only 10 % of any lake.

When it comes to small lakes and boater anglers, it's a no brainer to avoid letting them see me catch fish in prime locations - guess you could call it selfish especially if I want to return the next day. The more fishing pressure, the less fish are apt to bite and the whole point of catching fish in my case is to try different lures I make and design just to see how well they catch fish. It's the main reason I avoid certain waters on weekends. The more fish that bite those designs on that and other days, the greater the chance of me sharing them with all of you.

On the other hand, if I feel I can trust someone that honestly shares equally lures and presentations, it's like we are on the same page, knowing where to look and what to use without having to say so. Location sharing may happen but usually not necessary because we both know those water like the back of our hand. In all the years I fished locally, I've found only a few in that category and will always be vague when someone else asks "how are they biting or what have you used to catch them". No point in screwing up a good thing.

First- I thank all of you on this site and the creator of it. Because of you, I have the right r&r, line, and on and on. And the confidence to go out in any season and have some success.
Second-Each one of you have a point. On small waters you can look down at the path made along the shoreline and find where people fish. On large lakes it's different.
Third- We are all free to share or not share. And there is a right way to say it.
I know a bass fisherman who will come close to you at 60 mph and when he gets even with you he makes a waypoint. Then if you are gone when he comes back he checks it out. Those guys make me nervous.

I know a bass fisherman who will come close to you at 60 mph and when he gets even with you he makes a waypoint. Then if you are gone when he comes back he checks it out. Those guys make me nervous.


That is really dangerous. Afew years ago that discussion took place. One of the guys said if he had the bicycle seat on the front of the boat as soon as he caught a fish the bass fishermen nearby were headed that way. He said he could change to a regular front seat and put on a straw hat and catch fish all day long without any company.

Now that's a great idea right there. But I will admit, in my bassing days, I would see a boat closing in and I would drop my reel and pick up my shiny cane pole till they had passed me.

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Now that's a great idea right there. But I will admit, in my bassing days, I would see a boat closing in and I would drop my reel and pick up my shiny cane pole till they had passed me.

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Good thought, but nobody sells cane poles where I live? LOL
One good thing about local bass anglers with boats is that they rarely fish for panfish and aren't interested in catching them. I'm out for both though in a small lure/ light tacke kinda way. But one good thing in my favor is that fish locations usually change week after week - shallow, deep or somewhere in between - and finding them in concentrations is 90 % of the challenge. The less anglers that fish a water the better I like it, though shoreline-bound angler rarely bother me unless they aim their weighted floats at my head - and as we all know, many can be cast really far !! (Could never understand that seeing as how I'm way out from shore and casting parallel to it or to open water 180 degrees.)

It a big cheap catfish rig and put a chicken heart on the hook. That outta throw off your scent. lol

A buddy and I were killing BIG bull bluegills in a very small area some time before I started guiding. The back of the bay was barely 2 boat lengths wide and a couple of casts deep to the back. The bluegill bed was about 1/2 the size of my boat. We had a couple of boats actually try to get around us after they watched us catch big gills, one after another. I treat people the way I want to be treated and I blocked both of those boats from coming around us. They would have undoubtedly ruined our, and their, days fishing and I would have never tried to get around somebody in such a small area.

A white bass boat with 2 older guys in it tried to come around us also and I blocked them. They stayed back a short distance and asked if we minded if they watched us. We said no problem. After we caught a few more, one of the men asked me what we were using. I told him the brand of the jig we were tipping with wax worms and fishing under a tiny bobber. He said they had never heard of the jig but they had fished the same bed the day before and had not caught any gills as big as the ones we were throwing back. I told him to come closer and I would give him a pack of the jigs. I tossed them on the front deck then they started easing away. My buddy overheard one of them say "We'll come back later and if the so and so is gone, we'll camp out on it."

Makes one feel all warm and fuzzy doesn't it?

Well that’s just a shame. Being nice and generous and then treated like that. Hope everyone of the bluegill left the area before they returned. Like you said treat others as you would want to be treated.

I’m mixed in my feelings and responses. I enjoy teaching folks how to do better, and have shared the whole deal, place, bait, technique, even taken them there. This doesn’t bother me. What does bother me is people blatantly lying to gain info and stripping a place by fishing nowhere else until what they were shown no longer produces for anyone. This sometimes enters my thoughts when I plan to go and wind up fishing alone. All that said, I have taken others who respected what I shared and not worn it out. These I share with regularly and look forward to the next trip. Basically, I strongly dislike being deceived and or lied to. Unforgivable.