What knot do you use? Surgeons Loop vs. Perfection Loop vs. Lefty Kreh Loop

I notice a lot of the guys here use a Surgeons Loop for their loop knots.

I have always preferred a Lefty Kreh loop knot since the tag points at the fly/lure rather than fwd like a Surgeons or Rapala Loop, it catches less weeds / grass. When I am fishing clean water I use a perfection loop (not quite as strong) since it is a straighter pull and the fly tracks better through the water, on the perfection loop the tag points out the side so it's not quite as great in grass/weeds as the Lefty.


Any opinions from you guys on your preferred loop knots and why for pulling jigs for Crappie?

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Originally Posted by Lowhydrogen

I notice a lot of the guys here use a Surgeons Loop for their loop knots.

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... because it's easy.

I prefer the Kreh loop, though (for casting. I don't troll, except on internet bulletin boards.)

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Originally Posted by Lowhydrogen

I have always preferred a Lefty Kreh loop knot ...

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Lefty and the knot that bears his name are almost unknown outside of the fly fishing world.

I'm not sure I know what a loop knot is. I'm thinking the loop some tie on a lure of some king with? I guess it let's the lure move better? I don't use one of those. Eith jigs and spinner's I tie right to the eyelet. For plug's I use a snap swivel. For hooks I think it's called the snell knot. Wraps around the hook shank. Seem's like one of the thing's talked about with fishing line is line abrasion. Well seem's to me if the lure is swinging around on the line, it just may abrade the line it's hanging on quicker. Even tying on a hook, I use that snell? knot. Wrap the line aroung the hook shank a number of time's and just seem's better to me.

Whatever Richard uses is good enough for me. Lol

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Originally Posted by deathb4disco

Lefty and the knot that bears his name are almost unknown outside of the fly fishing world.

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You're right about that, and it's a shame too, a lot of his contributions/ideas have a lot of value even outside of fly fishing. I threw deceivers below small sinkers to deep Redfish on pilings once when I couldn't get them down with a sink tip and had a blast (don't tell anyone). I have mostly been a saltwater spin and fly guy, and Lefty was one of my all time heroes (still is).

I am just learning about Crappie and all the methods and madness to catch them (there's a lot to know)....

Recently learned a new loop knot called the "canoe man knot". It is easy for old eyes to tie. Kreh's knot is a bit hard for me to see to tie with the light lines.

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Originally Posted by Lowhydrogen

I notice a lot of the guys here use a Surgeons Loop for their loop knots.

I have always preferred a Lefty Kreh loop knot since the tag points at the fly/lure rather than fwd like a Surgeons or Rapala Loop, it catches less weeds / grass. When I am fishing clean water I use a perfection loop (not quite as strong) since it is a straighter pull and the fly tracks better through the water, on the perfection loop the tag points out the side so it's not quite as great in grass/weeds as the Lefty.


Any opinions from you guys on your preferred loop knots and why for pulling jigs for Crappie?

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I tried a couple of loop knots from the internet , but the fastest and simplest is the Surgeon's Loop, I cut the tag as close as possible to avoid grass.

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Originally Posted by Don Fischer

I'm not sure I know what a loop knot is. I'm thinking the loop some tie on a lure of some king with?

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It's used to make sure your jig always hangs horizontal in the water,so that it looks like a minnow swimming straight.

I tie granny knots mostly. Fish don't care. I don't believe a fish checks to see if the jig is hanging perfect either. If fish were particular about all things, I would never catch 'em.

I use the Kreh on larger jigs and the "Richard Gene Special" loop knot on the smaller jigs. Both work very well for me. My choice is based on lure size alone. My hands are not big enough to use the Richard Gene on larger lures.

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Originally Posted by deathb4disco

Lefty and the knot that bears his name are almost unknown outside of the fly fishing world.

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They call that one the..."Non Slip Loop Knot" it seems to be very popular, but I hated tying it, the Surgeon's Loop works just fine.

Surgeons loop on crappie jigs and Lefty Kreh loop for all my other fishing when a loop is needed.

mostly just a loop knot for me plain and simple and VERY effective

I use the loop knot for ease of tying.

Fer jigs I use the surgeons loop and palomar knot fer other stuff. Both are simple and fast fer me - main problem is the hot sunny weather - I'm ready fer the fall cool down!

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I used Rapala loop knot, since I learned this knot from long time ago. The only problem is harder to tie with braid and to make loop as small as possible.
Now I use the smallest snap most of the time.

Never having seen the description or instructions of Lefty’s knot, I can’t say for certain, but I believe that is what I was shown with the tag pointing at the lure. I love it with my tiny tackle and find that I get hung less often in the trash I fish. It was shown to me for fishing weedy water on the west coast of FL and I immediately saw its advantages. It has taken me a while but it gets more comfortable to tie all the time. I believe the surgeons is a double overhand know using the entire loop, and was my dads favorite.

The non-slip (a/k/a Kreh) loop knot:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iv1aNhz7btU

I've used the improved clinch knot since my grandfather taught it to me in the late 60's and it has performed fine for me for most applications except (for instance) drop shot rigs when I use the Palomar knot for the double knots on two or more hoods while the tag line end is still the improved clinch for tying the lead line sinker

DBD Thanks, that’s the one I use.

K. I too was sold on that knot, but I have two others that have never come undone like the clinch or improved clinch has for me. I lose what’s on the end and come back with a little pigs tail on the end. Never happened since. What I figured after the fact was that I was trimming short or not pulling hard enough when it was complete. Lots of folks use that knot and I won’t say bad things for that, just tell of my experience.