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With all this rain and knowing that many of the dams in Kansas are reaching their capacities....gotta be a stress on them. Some will need to release water. Looks like we are in for some serious flooding.
John Redmond Dam last week....
West side of the dam at John Redmond... - OZsome Big Game Hunts
Already spent most of yesterday cleaning the water out of my basement. If these were normal rains there would be no issue. Hope for some relief soon
I have always thought Redmond's spillway was huge compared to similar size reservoirs.
Typical mismanagement by the Corp. Hold water even when there where opportunities to release some.
Bureaucratic incompetence aside I prefer the bureaucrats to mother nature. Hopefully climate science will make management better but I'm not holding my breath.Quote:
Originally Posted by Flint
Loaded with fertilizer....
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Horrible to behold such failures in our ability to prevent such things.Quote:
Originally Posted by drifter106
I seen it on the news today, water is very powerful.
I am assuming you must hold an engineering degree and know a better way to limit the flooding downstream? Please explain how the Corps of Engineers is mismanaging the lakes designed entirely for flood control.Quote:
Originally Posted by Flint
Sure. I hold a common sense degree and am saying there have been opportunities to release some water from Kansas reservoirs in the past several weeks and they have not been taken. I’ve lived by the Kansas river for 55 years.Quote:
Originally Posted by crappieslinger
Kansas river is not the problem its rivers that kansas river flows into that cant hold any more water for a while
As impressive as your Monday morning quarterback degree is, the Corps are doing all they can to minimize the damage both locally and downstream. There is a whole lot more that must be taken into consideration than your pleasure boating or camping. People downstream loose everything they own and/or DIE when flooding occurs. The local lakes feed into a much bigger river system that has a major impact on a very large population.Quote:
Originally Posted by Flint
Not to mention the local lakes were designed ENTIRELY for flood control. Fishing and the recreational aspects are just a bonus.
Well it is still a bureaucracy so don't get too carried away :-)Quote:
Originally Posted by crappieslinger
Sure thing, you’re opinion matters more than mine in the off topic section.Quote:
Originally Posted by crappieslinger
I'm from the Goobermunt and i'm here to help you.:Rofl
No it certainly does not. It is just sad to see the lack of common sense being thrown around about issues like this. Folks should educate themselves before making ignorant statements and as a result causing other folks to repeat the same inaccuracies.Quote:
Originally Posted by Flint
Well it certainly does when you call my statement ignorant. The reservoirs seem to be more about banking water for barge traffic on the big rivers in times of drought than they are for flood control.Quote:
Originally Posted by crappieslinger
Just keep drinking that cool aid buddy.
Ditto......Quote:
Originally Posted by Flint
I am done talking to people that are not willing to take the time to educate themselves and understand the bigger picture. Have fun! I am out!
Your statement is entirely correct. As a matter of fact the COE is being sued for causing flooding issues. It is easy to find in the news. Private companies also have a huge lobby in the barge traffic business and historically have dictated water levels that flow from us and other States into the Missouri and Mississippi rivers. There was no flooding concerns last fall and the barges had plenty of water so instead of the annual drawdown for fall and winter our lakes were held higher than in normal years for no reason. In fairness, they probably couldn't have drawn them down to the levels needed for the current wet season.Quote:
Originally Posted by Flint
We spent billions on climate "science" I would like something for my money .
I said I was out but the ignorance is killing me.... So you say "We spent billions on climate "science" I would like something for my money"... What exactly does this have to do with the current flooding issues in Northeastern Kansas?
What do you expect your "billions" of dollars do to fix the flooding issues downstream in Missouri?
Until we have the ability to make accurate long range forecasts the Corp will have to rely on historical patterns to manage reservoir levels. Climate forecasts remain more an art than a science. In theory climate models could be more accurate than they have proven to be.Quote:
Originally Posted by crappieslinger
Clearly even if climate models were accurate the decisions the Corp makes will be contentious. That unavoidably makes this discussion political and outside the standards of the forum. On the other hand science shouldn't be political.