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Yesterday Texas Game Wardens filed multiple criminal charges on 3 licensed fishing guides and 12 out-of-state anglers for over-limit and undersized Crappie on Sam Rayburn Lake. The group was 208 fish over the limit with 40 being undersized. Cases and civil restitution is pending.
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WOW! Those guys HAD to know they were wrong. That is going to be one EXPENSIVE fishing trip.
I seen that on CFF. Thats crazy
I don't get it. 10" is pretty small for a crappie. Not sure why you'd keep it anyway and that's besides the unethical arguments against what happened
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Not to mention that is a TON of fish overQuote:
Originally Posted by skiptomylu
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LIFE...... and throw away the key.....
I read on Facebook that these Guys said they fished two days... The first day they caught their limit... That night they all get to Drunk to clean the fish and just Iced them down... The next day they went fishing and caught crappie but not a limit and just Iced them down so they could clean later that day... They said the short fish measured before they let them sit over night on ice... The Game Warden counted the fish and charged them as if they caught all the fish in one day... Who knows what's really going on... I don't keep any crappie even close to the 10" size limit... Most of the time I only Keep 12 to 14 inch crappie and let the smaller and larger ones go... I don't think there is a Guide out there that would let people keep under size fish or go over the limit... We may never know the true story or out come of this...
The question is if they are truly "professional" guides but assuming they are I find the story as presented a bit hard to believe myself.Quote:
Originally Posted by BamaMan
The lesson is that if your are not going to clean your fish right away don't keep more than a one days limit. Keep fish from different days segregated and don't go over the possession limit.
Lets say that the suspects are telling the truth. How would the game warden know on first inspection that the fish were caught on separate days. A forensic scientist would be able to tell but that would cost thousands of dollars. People need to look at this from the law enforcement prospective not from the suspects.
I have my own unpopular opinion on the topic of how many fish to keep. Most states have very generous possession limits. I never keep anywhere near that limit. I don't believe in freezing fresh fish because frozen fish is not fresh fish. I only keep what me and my wife will eat that evening or the next day. That would be around 6 to 8 crappie. There are exceptions such as lakes where conservation wants you to take the small fish. Either way I don't criticize people with other habits but they do need to be aware that law enforcement can't read their minds to determine when the fish were caught.
Know folks who will do that icing fish down and not cleaning right away and if real tired have done it once or twice but what people need to realize is they are putting enforcement guys in tough spot. They don't want to hassle out of town customers who are spending money on their lakes but have a little common sense! we always assume we will be checked tho only have couple times in life so don't be a idiot.
Freeze bunches of fish but then give them to lots of people who don't or can't fish but love them.
as for the guides they could be completely clueless as to what their clients do with the fish once they leave them but in my experience the guides have always cleaned the fish as part of their service.
fish shrink on ice and that's a fact for sure . i seen 10.25 summer fish measure just over 9 after an all day ice bath and this isn't a jokeQuote:
Originally Posted by BamaMan