I am in the process of changing my boat set-up from long-lining over to tight lining. I can still long line out of the back. My question is at what speed do I need to troll. I normally troll long lining around .09 to 1.2 mph
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I am in the process of changing my boat set-up from long-lining over to tight lining. I can still long line out of the back. My question is at what speed do I need to troll. I normally troll long lining around .09 to 1.2 mph
Are you going to be pushing with like 2 oz sinkers or are you spider rigging moving slow with 1/2 oz to 3/4 oz sinkers?
spider rigging using 1/2 oz and jig heads
.1 -.2 mphQuote:
Originally Posted by rctsr
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Spider Rigging speeds are usually less than 0.5mph (in my understanding)
Pushing speeds are usually greater than 0.5mph to less than 2mph
You are setting up just like Hotwater. Youtube combo trolling. Lot of video's with info. Even how to make your weights
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Usually I will try to stay .2-.3, lately I have found they want it more in the .4-.5 range. Last fall on the lake I fish the most they got to where they wanted it at .7 even with bare minnows. You just have to try different speeds and let them tell you. But my most productive has always been the .2-.4 range.
Thank You all for the information you shared with me. What is the difference in pushing and spider rigging? I assume pushing is with just one hook and weight. I have looked at many of the video's
Spider rigging used lighter weight and slower speeds, pushing uses heavier weights to be able to increase speeds and still keep baits down.Quote:
Originally Posted by rctsr
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I have been spider rigging for a long time and tried several different rigs. I now use 1 ounce of lead. I can combo troll at 1 mph (like Hotwater does).
If I am just only spider rigging I will run anywhere from .5 to 1.0. In real shallow water I like to work a little slower, if the fish are in deep water and scattered, and less than 15 feet deep, I like to work faster.
Every spot is different and every day is different. I have caught fish from 1 foot below the surface to 40 feet deep in all depths of water. The 1 ounce of lead gives me the versatility to change with the conditions of the day.
.5 to 1.0
1/2 ounce weight stay under .5.
If you want to push at speeds up to 1.2 mph like you do long lining 2 ounce weights can keep your jig in the strike zone.
This time of year I push double jigs on a 2 ounce drop shot rig or double minnow rig up to 1.2 and the bait and crappie yesterday were from 4 to 7.5 feet deep over 25 FOW and this technique worked well.
With rods that can carry heavier weights pushing you can also pull jigs at the same speeds and do both techniques at the same time from the front of boat.
Can someone post a picture of the weight in reference to you jigs. Also do you use a loop knot to tie your leader.
Here is how I tie mine, I use a duo lock snap on main line to make removing easier. I use the snaps on rig to quickly change jig or hook. I’m always trying different combos. Doesn’t make sense to me to sit and tie up 50-60 different combos and have to change out entire rig every time you want something different.Quote:
Originally Posted by Chad Cooley
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This is what I use to stow them on. Tie up a bunch with 3/8-1/2 and 3/4 oz weights. If you need to add extra weight just cut line at swivel and add another weight and retire.
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Thank y'all so much. I will try this.
When I spider riggede my speed was generally under 1.0 mph, more like .5 mph or less. I just "bumped along" cutting the tm on when the boat stopped after using the tm. I usually fished with 1/2 to /34 oz weights and used minners. When I pushed I ran around .8 to 1.0 mph and was actually longline trolling but from the front of the boat. My lines were under and/or back behind the boat at that speed even though the poles were heavy with 1 oz+ sinkers.
that's was the way I did also, long lining from the front of boat. but not with that much weight.Thank You for your response
I'm a long liner but if you push or spider rig I believe you should always tip with minnows. I know most of you do tip with minnows yet I want to make that suggestion to anyone who doesn't. Good fishing.
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Originally Posted by rctsr
I spider rig with very light gear. Just a large split shot and a hook. My speeds are around 0.2 mph.