Humbled!

I come to this site for entertainment and to learn. I have been crappie fishing for a few years now, and I have a serious addiction! I enjoy just being on the water (you know, that story you try to make yourself believe when you ain’t catching?). I do pretty well in three seasons, but winter has me beat down. We went yesterday evening. Hardly any wind, fairly muddy 47-49 degree water. My electronics showed baitfish, sometimes so thick they showed as the bottom. Birds were diving like crazy. I saw fish, but I’m not good enough at interpreting to say they were crappie. These are the things we are told to look for. Right? This was in a creek. The huge schools of baitfish were in the 17-20 FOW area. The birds were diving in the 8-12 FOW area. We caught.....absolutely nothing! Air temps were low 50’s, full moon approaching, falling barometer, fishing app shows we were at a minor feeding time (which I interpret as second best to major feeding time). We load up assuming the dirty water, etc. just had them shut down.
We got everything secured for the “drive of shame” home, and a guy is getting in his truck to load his boat. Having never met a stranger, I asked about his day. His reply was that it wasn’t great, but they had 18 keeper crappie. We talked further, and he had caught them in 8 FOW (remember the birds?), and they were using jigs.
This scenario has played out in similar fashion over my last couple of trips......me not getting a bite, when obviously others are catching. I’m always trying to improve, so I’m not too proud to share my failings in order to learn. This happened last winter as well. Any and all advice is welcome and appreciated!


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This can be common during cooler months when the bite is so soft you may never know you had a bite.
Another thing I saw recently was the only fish that would bite were the ones in 28 ft of water. ( caught right on bottom)
We located plenty of fish deeper and some shallower.




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I think everybody has been there at one time or another including myself. Not sure where or what kind of water you are fishing. But in my territory (Ohio river tribs) the creeks are extremely clear in the winter unless we have rain (Like right now as we are speaking). I do know they won't be in that clear water. The clearer water will push them back towards the river. The mouths of the creeks never get as clear as farther upstream. This time of year in this area we catch them closer to the river and around that 8-10 ft of water mark. It really cuts down on the territory you will fish successfully. As for me I haven't had the boat out since the last of December. I'm stuck in Sauger mode now fishing from the bank below the local dam during the evening.

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Originally Posted by kycreek

I think everybody has been there at one time or another including myself. Not sure where or what kind of water you are fishing. But in my territory (Ohio river tribs) the creeks are extremely clear in the winter unless we have rain (Like right now as we are speaking). I do know they won't be in that clear water. The clearer water will push them back towards the river. The mouths of the creeks never get as clear as farther upstream. This time of year in this area we catch them closer to the river and around that 8-10 ft of water mark. It really cuts down on the territory you will fish successfully. As for me I haven't had the boat out since the last of December. I'm stuck in Sauger mode now fishing from the bank below the local dam during the evening.

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More detail. This lake is never”clear”, but it is more stained than normal now. Kind of a coffee with cream. It is a reservoir on the TN River, and the main channel had a lot of current yesterday. After checking out the main channel, we retreated to the creek because of the current. Very few boats were out, but at least three were fishing in that 8’ range, and I assume they were crappie fishing.

What is the answer in dealing with lite bits? Rod, line, bobber, jig wt. ??? thanks

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Originally Posted by Hat55

What is the answer in dealing with lite bits? Rod, line, bobber, jig wt. ??? thanks

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Lite bite equals full concentration on your rod tips and line. It may be a slight slow movement of your line or it may be a slight tick of the rod tip. The first tick
he took your bait in, the second is when he spit it back out. The colder the water is the slower there's notable movement of the pole unless he hooks himself.

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What is the answer in dealing with lite bits? Rod, line, bobber, jig wt. ??? thanks

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Depends on how you're fishing, but any or all of those things can play into lite bite detection.

Rod - sensitivity
Line - limp mono, braid, or hi-vis line
Bobber - watch for it to raise up or fall over (lift bites) or twitch sideways or pull under very slightly
Jig weight - lighter weight or smaller jig might temp the fish more .... but a heavier/larger jig can also work by keeping the line taught against the rod tip, creating more sensitivity in the rod

Other than the "bobber" answer .... all the others are answered with "casting" in mind.

I feel your pain. I haven't caught a crappie since the water dropped into the 70s. As soon as the water cooled all my crappie that were piled up in 25ish feet of water disappeared. I haven't seen a school of Crappie since. The Bass fishing has been good but the white perch have been almost impossible to catch as well. I've been putting out brush and hoping for summer.

I fish downstream in Chickamauga on the TN River as well. My father in law, who catches crappie all year...year after year, says in winter time with the colder water temps. to slow down your retrieve or trolling speed or lure presentation as much as you can and then slow down some more. When I do I start catching like him. He is in his 70's and knows more about crappie fishing than most based on his results in the boat.

I hope you have good luck the next time you go and you can put some of those elusive winter slabs in your boat using the info members post.

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I fish downstream in Chickamauga on the TN River as well. My father in law, who catches crappie all year...year after year, says in winter time with the colder water temps. to slow down your retrieve or trolling speed or lure presentation as much as you can and then slow down some more. When I do I start catching like him. He is in his 70's and knows more about crappie fishing than most based on his results in the boat.

I hope you have good luck the next time you go and you can put some of those elusive winter slabs in your boat using the info members post.

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Thanks! You sometimes know you’re doomed before you start. Had the wife finish backing the trailer in, as per our usual routine. I noticed we weren’t floating when we should, and heard the tailpipes bubbling from being underwater! Yelled for her to pull up, so I could get out and unhook the winch strap. Backed in again, and still no float, but plenty of bubbling! Yelled to pull out again, and got off and unhooked BOTH stern straps! Took our Yorkie along for her pleasure. She fell off the bow into the 47 degree water! From all indications, it would appear that I had never been in a boat, let alone fished! I have a mental checklist for hooking up, launching, and loading. Done em all 100’s of times. Dunno where my head was, but I did check behind my back pocket!

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Originally Posted by ET Fish

Thanks! You sometimes know you’re doomed before you start. Had the wife finish backing the trailer in, as per our usual routine. I noticed we weren’t floating when we should, and heard the tailpipes bubbling from being underwater! Yelled for her to pull up, so I could get out and unhook the winch strap. Backed in again, and still no float, but plenty of bubbling! Yelled to pull out again, and got off and unhooked BOTH stern straps! Took our Yorkie along for her pleasure. She fell off the bow into the 47 degree water! From all indications, it would appear that I had never been in a boat, let alone fished! I have a mental checklist for hooking up, launching, and loading. Done em all 100’s of times. Dunno where my head was, but I did check behind my back pocket!

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Are we twins??? LOL

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Originally Posted by ET Fish

Thanks! You sometimes know you’re doomed before you start. Had the wife finish backing the trailer in, as per our usual routine. I noticed we weren’t floating when we should, and heard the tailpipes bubbling from being underwater! Yelled for her to pull up, so I could get out and unhook the winch strap. Backed in again, and still no float, but plenty of bubbling! Yelled to pull out again, and got off and unhooked BOTH stern straps! Took our Yorkie along for her pleasure. She fell off the bow into the 47 degree water! From all indications, it would appear that I had never been in a boat, let alone fished! I have a mental checklist for hooking up, launching, and loading. Done em all 100’s of times. Dunno where my head was, but I did check behind my back pocket!

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At least it sounds like you had the plug in!!:HandsClapping

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Originally Posted by Hat55

At least it sounds like you had the plug in!!:HandsClapping

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Yes! Probably only because I put it in after the last trip!

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Originally Posted by ET Fish

Thanks! You sometimes know you’re doomed before you start. Had the wife finish backing the trailer in, as per our usual routine. I noticed we weren’t floating when we should, and heard the tailpipes bubbling from being underwater! Yelled for her to pull up, so I could get out and unhook the winch strap. Backed in again, and still no float, but plenty of bubbling! Yelled to pull out again, and got off and unhooked BOTH stern straps! Took our Yorkie along for her pleasure. She fell off the bow into the 47 degree water! From all indications, it would appear that I had never been in a boat, let alone fished! I have a mental checklist for hooking up, launching, and loading. Done em all 100’s of times. Dunno where my head was, but I did check behind my back pocket!

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Let's hear about your Yorkie catching skills.:Rofl I hear they don't do as well as labs in cold water. I bet your wife's face was like:yikes I know mine would have been ready to go home at that point.

Stormcloud said it, he is right on!

Been there....check that, still there!!!
Been struggling myself.
Fished full day yesterday.....
2 guys launched they're boat right behind me, and loaded out alongside me...
I had 2, they had 13......


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Let's hear about your Yorkie catching skills.:Rofl I hear they don't do as well as labs in cold water. I bet your wife's face was like:yikes I know mine would have been ready to go home at that point.

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Get this, she had on a life jacket! :Rofl She hit the water and I immediately reached down and grabbed the handle on her life jacket and had her back before she could swim 2 strokes! From a deep V! She thanked me by shaking that 47 degree water all over me! Then, my wife wrapped her in MY coat! I should’ve left right then!

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Originally Posted by Kevmc

Been there....check that, still there!!!
Been struggling myself.
Fished full day yesterday.....
2 guys launched they're boat right behind me, and loaded out alongside me...
I had 2, they had 13......


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Well, what’re we gonna do to fix it! I’m on a mission to learn this winter fishing!

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Originally Posted by Hat55

Are we twins??? LOL

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Could be! Are you real ugly? :Rofl

Funny story! We've all been there! I'm approaching 50 and I get where I can't remember squat.

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Originally Posted by ET Fish

Could be! Are you real ugly? :Rofl

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How did you know!!!

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Get this, she had on a life jacket! :Rofl She hit the water and I immediately reached down and grabbed the handle on her life jacket and had her back before she could swim 2 strokes! From a deep V! She thanked me by shaking that 47 degree water all over me! Then, my wife wrapped her in MY coat! I should’ve left right then!

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Sounds like our little dogs have the same life jacket.:biggrin

Glad the pooch was ok. Winter fishing can be a challenge. Lots of guys up here only fish in the winter, and put their boats up when it gets warm. As I have gotten older I fish less in the winter from a boat and just tool around on the banks when it is cold. Lure hunting, brushpile making and fishing creeks are just a few ways I keep busy. Keep after them, I do enjoy your reports.


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Well at least you catch them most of the year. I seem to have lost all catching skill since I moved to Tn. Gonna keep trying though.
Next time bring a towel for the poochie. That way you can forget it in the car. lol

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Well at least you catch them most of the year. I seem to have lost all catching skill since I moved to Tn. Gonna keep trying though.
Next time bring a towel for the poochie. That way you can forget it in the car. lol

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Ha ha! You’re right, I would forget it! I’m gonna figure this winter thing out! It’s now my challenge!

Come down here on day an fish w DK...
love your honest post, an that the pup got a winter quick bath an safely retrieved back to boat.
one winter my lab jumped n 46 degree water after a loon. Took me 30 minutes to get her back n that boat, that loon had her swimming all around my boat! Lolol...I got shunked that day if I remembered correctly.

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Come down here on day an fish w DK...
love your honest post, an that the pup got a winter quick bath an safely retrieved back to boat.
one winter my lab jumped n 46 degree water after a loon. Took me 30 minutes to get her back n that boat, that loon had her swimming all around my boat! Lolol...I got shunked that day if I remembered correctly.

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Now that’s a good idea! Thank you! Maybe having dogs in the boat is a jinx? Like bananas? :Rofl

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Originally Posted by ET Fish

Thanks! You sometimes know you’re doomed before you start. Had the wife finish backing the trailer in, as per our usual routine. I noticed we weren’t floating when we should, and heard the tailpipes bubbling from being underwater! Yelled for her to pull up, so I could get out and unhook the winch strap. Backed in again, and still no float, but plenty of bubbling! Yelled to pull out again, and got off and unhooked BOTH stern straps! Took our Yorkie along for her pleasure. She fell off the bow into the 47 degree water! From all indications, it would appear that I had never been in a boat, let alone fished! I have a mental checklist for hooking up, launching, and loading. Done em all 100’s of times. Dunno where my head was, but I did check behind my back pocket!

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I am so glad someone besides me does things like that from time to time. :)

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Originally Posted by FurFlyin

I am so glad someone besides me does things like that from time to time. :)

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Yeah, people talk about mistakes. I’m like, hold my Diet Mountain Dew and watch this! :Rofl

Maybe it's the Diet Dew. I drink about 4 a day.

Now that we’ve heard how stupid I am, back to the tips on catching winter crappie! :biggrin

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Maybe it's the Diet Dew. I drink about 4 a day.

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4?! Rookie! :cheers2

I don't drink cans, those are 20 oz'ers. I wish I had never drank one. I can't imagine a drug addiction being any worse.

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I don't drink cans, those are 20 oz'ers. I wish I had never drank one. I can't imagine a drug addiction being any worse.

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2 liter for me.....and they are definitely addictive! However, we could have worse addictions!

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2 liter for me.....and they are definitely addictive! However, we could have worse addictions!

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Dang, I feel sorry for your kidneys. LOL

Worse addictions, like crappie fishing? :Rofl