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I’ve been trolling for for two years now and have been using 14ft Capps and Coleman trolling rods. I love the sensitivity of the rods and feel I catch a lot of fish that I wouldn’t with a stiffer rod. The only issue I have is these poles seem to lack backbone when lifting fish out of the water especially when fishing deeper depths. I was just wondering if there was a rod out there with the same sensitivity but with more backbone for lifting fish.
Time for a net, jmo.
I’ve got one. Thanks
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I bought PST's and extra tips that are Capps n Coleman tips. If I'm pushing under 1oz I put on the C&C tips and over the PST tips. So even with C&C tips 2/3 of the rod the backbone is PST's and swinging fish is no problem. Almost like having 2 rods in one.
Denali's are pretty good as well, you get the sensitivity and backbone you need. I don't even consider reaching for a net on anything less then 2 lbs.
I swing in fish with 12' poles, With my 14 & 16' I net or grab line close to boat. You might lose one every once and awhile, but unless you are tourniment fishing who really cares.
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Originally Posted by tb27688
How much (if any) weight are you using ??
Which "trolling" method are you using ??
What size fish are you catching ??
What does the depth the fish are in have to do with lifting them out of the water ??
I have a couple of C/C 14' rods that I Push jigs/cranks with, and a PST, and the biggest difference (to me) is the C/C rods are a little more limber and bend farther under the same amount of weight.
Also, bare in mind that the C/C rods are primarily a Spider Rigging rod, hence the more limber action (to show lighter bites).
I use the 14 ft capps and colemans up here in PA for spiderigging and your right they are a limber rod.I for sure use a net on anything with any size to it with those poles and I imagine down in Mississippi your catching some pretty big fish.Even though they are limber I really like the action on them,I can really see the bite and I think the give in them keeps the fish on just a bit longer then a stiffer pole where they feel that resistance.I don't know if maybe the 14ft BGJPs might have a bit more backbone and still have the limber tip?I have used the Prostaff rods and although you do have more than enough backbone to haul big ones in,I didn't like the action near as much as my C&C rods for spiderrigging.
I been using C&C 14 ft rods for 8 or 9 years now....never use a net and never have broke a tip. I use low profile bait casters with thumb bars. When I get the fish up near the boat reeled up short....I hit the thumb bar to let line ( about 12 ft of line from tip to fish ) out some as I bring the the rod up verticle....I then push the rod straight up and swing the fish in. The rod will noodle around some but I got used to that. This way the rod is pushing the fish up instead of the whole length of the rod trying to lift it up in a position other than vertical. I learned this from one of the better guides on Sardis. He uses 14 ft. C&CS for his clients and likes these rods and I do too.
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My understanding is the bbjp is even lighter then the cc’s. The prostaffs would be stiffer. I just got into slow trolling this summer and bought 14 foot caps and Coleman’s and really like them.
I have a set of ozarks and love them
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I’ve used Southern Crappie Rods for years and have swung several 2 pound crappie over the sides when fun fishing. With clients I’m betting 90% of their fish. When a Crappie with a mouth the size of a tennis ball surfaces, in gets netted 100% of the time.
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I spider rig, rarely use over 1/2 ounce of lead, we catch fish over two pounds quite often, and deeper depths just make it a little tougher to lift fish with the amount of bend the C&Cs have.
I have this same setup. I love the sensitivity of the tips for sure. I will try your method on my next trip.Quote:
Originally Posted by G";3755844]I been using C&C 14 ft rods for 8 or 9 years now....never use a net and never have broke a tip. I use low profile bait casters with thumb bars. When I get the fish up near the boat reeled up short....I hit the thumb bar to let line ( about 12 ft of line from tip to fish ) out some as I bring the the rod up verticle....I then push the rod straight up and swing the fish in. The rod will noodle around some but I got used to that. This way the rod is pushing the fish up instead of the whole length of the rod trying to lift it up in a position other than vertical. I learned this from one of the better guides on Sardis. He uses 14 ft. C&CS for his clients and likes these rods and I do too.
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Thanks for all of the responses. Just wondering what everyone was using since this is the first set of trolling rods I’ve bought.
I use Southern Crappie Rods. You can lift a 2 lb crappie in the boat with a standard rod. You can slang a 21/2 lber in the boat with the 2 oz trolling rods in 14 or 16 ft. I usually net those bigger fish I hate to loose one when a hook come out
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OK .... but I still don't understand how the depth you're catching fish in has anything to do with lifting them out of the water. But, that's neither here nor there considering the size fish. And that little bit of weight doesn't amount to much in the greater scheme of things.Quote:
Originally Posted by tb27688
I will tell you this - when the only rod over 10' I had was a 14' PST, I was catching fish like this one :
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Pushing jigs down in Tenn, these fish would bury that 14' rod in the water nearly halfway up the length of the rod. That particular trip I didn't have a long handled net, actually I didn't have ANY net. But, I lift landed all the fish ... even this Slab. What you can't see or determine in this picture is the fact that this fish is NOT being held up by my hand on the line. It's swinging freely on the near vertical 14' PST rod, and my thumb is just against the line trying to keep the fish steady for the picture. Had it been a C/C rod, I'd have probably done the same thing for the picture ... but, I may have regretted it.
Around here, many use 14-20ft rods to Push cranks & 2-4oz trolling weights. I've used my two C/C 14' rods to Push jigs & cranks & 1.5oz weights w/o problems (or a long handled net). This year, however, I will have said long handled net along on my trips. :ThumbsUp
Maybe I got a bad batch of PST 12 footers. I bought 8 12 ft 3 years ago from grizzly jig . I have 3 left. I broke one in Florida 2 weeks ago while lifting a 12 inch crappie in the boat. I sold 4 to my fishing partner When I first got the 8 rods. He has none left. I have replaced the tips on the 3 I have left and I’m getting ready to buy another tip for the one I just broke. I generally use the net on larger crappie. But sometimes you have two or three rods going down at the same time. You grab a rod and go to lift the 12-14 inch fish in the boat and snap. All of these rods have broken on fish. One was a 4 pound smallmouth made a hard pull at the boat the others were all on crappie lifting in the boat. I like the rods for trolling they have backbone. But the tips I’m not fond of. Im switching to another rod. I have the Sam Heaton jig rods and they are great not one issue.
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