Is there a way I can tell what size bearings and seals I need before disassembling
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Is there a way I can tell what size bearings and seals I need before disassembling
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Not a good way that I know of. You might read the seal number if you clean the outside real good before taking it off. A GOOD parts guy could probably get you the right bearings knowing the seal, but GOOD parts guys are more rare than 5 pound crappie.
Replace the bearing races too..... One very often, overlooked step in the hub repacking process.
As a rule the diameter of the axle and the size of the wheel is all you need to know.
Go on line and you will find lots of sources on sites like Ebay.
Fact is I don't believe its even worth the effort it takes to change them.
The entire new hub assembly with lubed bearings and seals installed are very reasonable.
As I recall I paid about $65 for two new ones from an outfit in Miami.
I can rebuild and reinstall 2 hubs in about an hour for $15 and pack the bearings in marine grease.
***Disclaimer*** As a shop owner, I get a large volume discount at the parts store.
Well there are always those who are exceptional at doing about anything. lol.
Ive done it lots of times, but never in an hour and for sure I never enjoyed doing it.
I stopped by a trailer sales and service facility nearby and asked the owner about swapping out my bearings and seals. He looked me right in the face and said sure ill do it for you. But be advised I wont spend the time knocking out the old ones and replacing them. Ill buy new hubs and charge you about twice what they cost me to offset my cost for installing them. And I guess what with the hourly shop rates, thats not bad. But I did do it that way myself in an hour without a shop or leaving the yard.
I bought complete hubs from northern tool dang rear seal wont stay in very frustrating on one I'm leaving in the morning
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I work at Arkansas Trailer in Little Rock. I know you said you was leaving in the morning but if you don't get it fixed give 'em a call Monday morning and they'll fix ya up.
I bought two new hubs at Northern Tool that's the only way to go. The cost and the time saved and the Peace of Mind. Everything new is very good!
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I agree. I ordered complete bearing sets as backup for my annual trip to Florida. I discovered after looking around on their website I could buy the entire hub assembly for about $5 more than the bearing set. If you sitting on the side of the Interstate in the dark, that $5 difference disappears quickly.
Does this help?
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Where can I buy a repair sleeve to repair a groove the grease seal has worn into the axle?
Find you one like Double Lip Grease Seal - 1.25" I.D. - 1.98" O.D. Markings: 12192 - Trailer Grease Seals - Grease Seals - Hubs, Drums, Bearings, & Parts - Products They have a double lip which should straddle the groove. Your only other reasonable option is to replace the spindle. BTW, this is just an example.
Some parts stores have a speedy sleeve repair kit....thin sleeve to go on spindle with a tool to put it on with and a seal to fit.
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Some parts houses have those speedy sleeves and most any good bearing store will have them and as G said the seal to match. Also when you get one before installing, clean that grove area real good with some starting fluid and put you a thin coat of silicone on the grove, then install speedy sleeve. That reduces any chance of grease leaking between sleeve and axle. Most sleeves today have a flared flange to use to drive on. Then yo tear off that flare. If it's made like that take some sand paper or crocks cloth to smooth off the rough edge so seal isn't cut while installing.
Those sleeve kits are new to me. Do they work good and I assume they would have to be very thin so do they hold up?
Like G said I used them since the 70's on big truck axles. You don't just run out and buy a new axle for one of them or a trailer. If not mistaken think CR came out with them about 77-78. In my applications I figured they were good for about 100,000 miles. Pretty easy to change them out just use a small ball peen hammer and lightly tap from front to back and it will stretch and sled right off then just put on a new one. Have repaired some severely damaged axles with them.
Thanks for the info guys.