Line twist/ longline trolling

Guy, I seem to have more trouble than most on line twist. I've spooled with label up, label down and pull out a bunch and reel it back in thru the grass. Anyone have any suggestions? I have started using a tiny swivel up about 5" from the jig and it seems to help. I don't reel in with the drag slipping, I've heard this causes line twist. I do catch a dog many smal fish that " twirls" when you reel em in. I've used several brands of line, I seemed to like the viscous brand. I was in need of some bad this week, BPS didn't have any on the shelves so I opted with their brand of crappie hi vis line. Have not tried it. It wasn't the Mr. Crappie

That's basically why I use braid on most of my reels. I use mono on a couple reels and when it starts to twist I cut all tackle off the line and then troll all line off the reel behind the boat. To be honest I usually do this after a fresh respool anyway. Then I just reel it back up. Don't let it get out of hand before doing this or it will never untwist. I use swivels also and make sure your baits are running true to begin with. A wobbly running bait is going to do cart wheels at trolling speed.

Slab recently had a post on here about taking spool full of line off reel and soaking in a pan of hot water. Seems that works pretty good.

Go to this link, then scroll down to letting line relax on spool.
6 Tips to Prevent Line Twist on a Spinning Reel | SkyAboveUs

Here is Richard Gene's video that Slab posted.

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Do you close your bail by hand? This is the most common problem I see. Even old Richard does it. Whenever you close it by the reel handle it will twist every time if you watch Richard he always pulls the line after he closes the bail.

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I thought I was gonna have to beat my 16 year old son this spring to make him start closing the bail by hand. LOL

It wears out the bail spring too.

I had more line twist this past week on some freshly spooled reels than I've had in a long time. I don't know what the cause of that was.

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Originally Posted by FurFlyin

I thought I was gonna have to beat my 16 year old son this spring to make him start closing the bail by hand. LOL

It wears out the bail spring too.

I had more line twist this past week on some freshly spooled reels than I've had in a long time. I don't know what the cause of that was.

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. It was worse on mine this past weekend also I wonder if humidity has anything to do with it probably not but it has never been that bad and I didn't have fresh line.

Line twist on spinning tackle helped drive me to using braid on baitcasters. Haven't had a problem since.

Good luck whatever you go with.

Jim

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Originally Posted by Javelin 180

. It was worse on mine this past weekend also I wonder if humidity has anything to do with it probably not but it has never been that bad and I didn't have fresh line.

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Don't know, but I did have fresh line. Pretty new, used maybe one fishing trip.

Don’t make long cast, do a flip watch as you make a long cast especially if you use a grub, the jig will spin causes line twist shorter cast with underhand pitch for me. Your mileage may vary[emoji476]


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My thoughts on this; there is no way to put line on a spinning reel off of a spool without twisting the line. Reduce the effect yes but eliminate it, no. Simple physics, two different sized spools. Lay the spool on the ground, or however you choose to deliver the line to the reel, so that the line comes off the spool in the same direction that it goes onto the reel. This minimizes the twist. First time out take a tiny sinker, such as a 1/8 bell style, and cast it long and let it go out over half of the spool. The resistance given by the sinker insures the tension on the line for the entire recovery process and has no flat side to impede spinning and thereby eliminating any twist as it is recovered onto the rod. No sinker does this also but as it gets closer to the boat the drag of the water on the line is diminished and the line becomes more loosely laid on the spool. This can sometimes also cause some twist. The hot water thing has merit as it softens the line and gives it a chance to change its memory, thereby reducing the twist. My guess is that you also need to pay more attention to your baits and speed. Too fast and some will spin regardless. Pooorly rigged baits have been responsible for the majority of my twist issues. Loose drag slipping to excess also introduces twist to an otherwise straight line, reel twists and the bait doesn’t. Having seen these issues dealt with by myself and others over the years these are the most common reasons and solutions that I know of, hope it helps.

I use to struggle with line twist for years. One of the better methods for filling your reel with mono is to fill pail with water and drop the line spool in it. Retrieve as you normally would and the inherent twist will rotate the spool in the water, thus reducing the twist. However, with any monofilament, single strand line, the rotation of the reel bail will cause some degree of line twist no matter what you do.

I no long worry about line twist at all.

About 10 years ago, I switched to a fused line - Fireline Crystal - with a 4' section of fluorocarbon leader. I no longer have any issues with line twist - period. (The leader material is used mainly for abrasion resistance.)

If you try a spool of fused line with your trolling you will be totally satisfied. And you will no longer have to change your line each season either. Casting distance will be dramatically increased as well. Some reels I have have the same line I've used for two full seasons. No problems....no worries.

Add a good quality swivel and call it good! Sometimes we worry to much about the "why" something happens instead of focusing on a good solution.

When replacing line on spinning reel I have found that if the spool is in upright position (not laying down)with some tension on spool while it is turning and line coming off the top of spool will help remove line memory. Give it a try you will like it.

Tsunami and Spro make some size 10 swivels that are TINY. I haven't weighed them, but they're about the smallest I have seen on tackle store shelves.

If I'm longlining and start getting a twist on one of the rods, I always clip off the lure and let out a good 100-150' of line behind the boat and troll with it out for several minutes to release the twist, then I tie on a different jighead as I think a poorly running lure is responsible more often than not.

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Add a good quality swivel and call it good! Sometimes we worry to much about the "why" something happens instead of focusing on a good solution.

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ive been using these #10 size for a few years and they help out a lot but don't eliminate all " my" twist. I fished today and made sure I closed the bail by hand. Thanks to all of you who replied to my post.[ATTACH=CONFIG]318542[/ATTACH
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Thanks again for all The replies