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06-18-2018, 04:29 PM
LedHed

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bad to worse to better to best @ LP 06 18 18

Wanted to get an early start - 2 new rods to break in. Got up late, arrived at the bait shop to find out NO crickets!!!! Lucky there was ~25 left over from last week in the basket. Grabbed some red mealworms.
Wind up from the north and wouldn't slow down - almost had to stop. Too many bait snatchers & lifters.

Wind relented a little and started finding some nice fish.
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But a ski boat armada shows up and decide they want to beach their boats where I was finding fish. Was so irate - invented a new language. Had to move on.

Found a nice Crappie, then a very nice BG, and some.... Better then the other spot.

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Bobby (dock worker) & his best bud Doug show up. Marked a spot for them and watched Doug catch a BIG CNBG. That was the best. The rest was icing.

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New Daiwa rods got a descent work out too.
06-18-2018, 05:24 PM
ET Fish

Great report!
06-18-2018, 06:28 PM
skeetbum

That, Sir, is one of your better posts. Great to see the little man having a big time, and small children have excellent memories. He will remember the details of today and make you raise an eyebrow in a few years when he recounts this day. Hat's off to you and his Dad both. Good Job. The CNBG's are somewhat darker today and looking good as ever. Thanks for sharing with us. I always look forward to them.
06-18-2018, 06:33 PM
StantheMan2567

Nice fish. I see the rods were 7.6 ULS Diawa, what model number? Did you like them? Good for casting or just trolling/drifting?

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06-18-2018, 07:07 PM
Alphahawk

Nice catch.....assuming you like the new rods.....but who’s ever gotten a JDM rod they didn’t like....LOL.

Regards

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06-18-2018, 07:29 PM
LedHed

Thnx guys

Stan - Daiwa GEKKABIJIN 76UL-S Ultra Light 7'6" (entry level ~$130, free shipping). I troll with the rods but use them because they cast UL jigs FAR. I cast the jigs out to the side of the boat, letting them sink, before the boat's forward motion lifts & drags the jigs. The tips (I primarily use solid tip opposed to tube) are very sensitive and impart a lot of quivering action to the jigs. They are high carbon content - incredibly light , and have a lot of lifting power. I don't think it would be possible to land half of the fish I catch, right now, with out this style of rod.

Randy - Really enjoyed them. The action is very similar to Master Craft's First Cast rod. Need to make a video - show the abuse they can take. If the Japanese new what I was doing they probably would me on the "tackle ban list" for life....
06-18-2018, 08:19 PM
Alphahawk

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Originally Posted by LedHed

Thnx guys

Stan - Daiwa GEKKABIJIN 76UL-S Ultra Light 7'6" (entry level ~$130, free shipping). I troll with the rods but use them because they cast UL jigs FAR. I cast the jigs out to the side of the boat, letting them sink, before the boat's forward motion lifts & drags the jigs. The tips (I primarily use solid tip opposed to tube) are very sensitive and impart a lot of quivering action to the jigs. They are high carbon content - incredibly light , and have a lot of lifting power. I don't think it would be possible to land half of the fish I catch, right now, with out this style of rod.

Randy - Really enjoyed them. The action is very similar to Master Craft's First Cast rod. Need to make a video - show the abuse they can take. If the Japanese new what I was doing they probably would me on the "tackle ban list" for life....

Glad you like them. I had a Gekkabijin MX Ajing a few years back......a great rod. I gifted that one to a fishing buddy but wish I had it back.....LOL. Yeah the Japanese wouldn’t be happy with me either with my first JDM reel I bought...too much “Rock Rash”.....LOL.

Regards

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06-19-2018, 04:35 AM
skeetbum

Answers my questions, thanks Sonny.
06-19-2018, 06:19 AM
LedHed

Tim - you need to drag Troy out here so you guys can try the rods
06-19-2018, 07:05 AM
pescador

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AWE SOME !!!!!
Is it just me or does this guy look like he has eyelids?

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06-19-2018, 11:22 AM
"G"

Great report and pics

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06-19-2018, 04:45 PM
skeetbum

I would like nothing better. Not having a vacation last year I could seriously do with a road trip.
06-19-2018, 07:12 PM
Crappie Pro Wannabe

Just want to thank you and Randy for all the information it really helped me out. I just order the Daiwa GEKKABIJIN 76UL-S Ultra Light 7'6" too. What reel did you pair it with?
06-19-2018, 07:28 PM
Alphahawk

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Originally Posted by Crappie Pro Wannabe

Just want to thank you and Randy for all the information it really helped me out. I just order the Daiwa GEKKABIJIN 76UL-S Ultra Light 7'6" too. What reel did you pair it with?

Oh.....you gonna like that rod! Congrats!

Regards

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06-20-2018, 09:35 PM
StantheMan2567

Back to this Diawa rod. What does the S stand for? At 7.6, does the rod have the backbone to pull a Crappie out of deep brushpiles (20+ft) while vertical jigging? I have a 7 St Croix that I have just started fishing deep with. It is sensitive, but with a solid tip and an extra half foot would this rod (Diawa) perform better. The price seems fair and in line with the available rods here in the States.

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06-20-2018, 10:38 PM
LedHed

thnx Guys

S = solid tip

The CNBG in pic #7 came out of a brushpile in 27 FOW. Had to back up to pull him out and I'm using 2lb test line.

I like the St. Croix handle (it's even kid friendly) and the action of the rod, but almost all the JDM rods are a little bit to a lot a bit more sensitive. Even some of the less expensive rods. Some butt section are longer on the JDMs which is great for fishing I'm doing right now. I'd like to get back to casting with the shorter UL rods but not here & not now for these fish.

Maybe it's the length but these rods seem to cast a lot further then the St Croix's. I have the 7' Lite, 6'9" UL, and 6' one piece PF series.
There are other rods that are cheaper that perform as good or better. The real problem is buying a rod you can't hold.....
06-21-2018, 07:13 AM
Ketchn

nice read and photos
06-21-2018, 07:36 AM
LedHed

thnx ketchn

CPW - No worries, Randy knows a lot more about this stuff than I want to, lol. Matched the rod with a Pflueger Patriarch 10. it's not balanced, by much, but it's used for two handed casting anyway.... You should probably get at least a 15 or 20 series reel. I don't because they take a lot of line to fill.
06-21-2018, 08:04 AM
elkhunter

Great fish!! Sure wish we had gills like that in Tennessee.
06-21-2018, 08:08 AM
Alphahawk

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Originally Posted by StantheMan2567

Back to this Diawa rod. What does the S stand for? At 7.6, does the rod have the backbone to pull a Crappie out of deep brushpiles (20+ft) while vertical jigging? I have a 7 St Croix that I have just started fishing deep with. It is sensitive, but with a solid tip and an extra half foot would this rod (Diawa) perform better. The price seems fair and in line with the available rods here in the States.

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You don’t say which St Croix you have....but if it is a Panfish series the Daiwa is a much superior rod. A 7 foot St Croix Panfish weighs 3.1 ounce....the Daiwa rod weighs 3.2 ounces yet is 6 inches longer. The Daiwa rod has some serious backbone.....the butt is 10 mm diameter. The components on the Daiwa....guide frames...inserts......are superior to a St Croix Panfish. The Daiwa is rated for 1/56-1/6. The way Japanese rate Mebaru and Ajing rods is the low end rating means you can feel the resistance of a jig as light as 1/56 of an ounce.....that’s pretty impressive. If you get this rod you’re going to be blown away when you unpack it and see a solid tip that is only 7/10 of a mm in diameter. That tip is what gives the rod great sensitivity and casting distance......solid tips are excellent at working small plastics or any jig. Don’t misunderstand, the St Croix is a fine rod. But if you had both in your hand I would be shocked if you thought the St Croix was better. I don’t suggest anyone to buy or not buy JDM rods. I just try to present the facts of the build and specs of the rod. If you go over to finesse fishing website Chris has a lot of great info about these rods......he is a writer and can articulate much better than me.....plus it’s just a great English website to get info on JDM rods.

Regards

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06-21-2018, 08:51 AM
deathb4disco

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Originally Posted by Alphahawk

If you go over to finesse fishing website Chris has a lot of great info about these rods......he is a writer and can articulate much better than me.....plus it’s just a great English website to get info on JDM rods.

For anybody interested, here ya go:

https://www.finesse-fishing.com/
06-21-2018, 10:15 PM
StantheMan2567

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Originally Posted by Alphahawk

You don’t say which St Croix you have....but if it is a Panfish series the Daiwa is a much superior rod. A 7 foot St Croix Panfish weighs 3.1 ounce....the Daiwa rod weighs 3.2 ounces yet is 6 inches longer. The Daiwa rod has some serious backbone.....the butt is 10 mm diameter. The components on the Daiwa....guide frames...inserts......are superior to a St Croix Panfish. The Daiwa is rated for 1/56-1/6. The way Japanese rate Mebaru and Ajing rods is the low end rating means you can feel the resistance of a jig as light as 1/56 of an ounce.....that’s pretty impressive. If you get this rod you’re going to be blown away when you unpack it and see a solid tip that is only 7/10 of a mm in diameter. That tip is what gives the rod great sensitivity and casting distance......solid tips are excellent at working small plastics or any jig. Don’t misunderstand, the St Croix is a fine rod. But if you had both in your hand I would be shocked if you thought the St Croix was better. I don’t suggest anyone to buy or not buy JDM rods. I just try to present the facts of the build and specs of the rod. If you go over to finesse fishing website Chris has a lot of great info about these rods......he is a writer and can articulate much better than me.....plus it’s just a great English website to get info on JDM rods.

Regards

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I do have the St. Croix Panfish series rod in the 7ft 1 pc Light Action. It has impressed me so far with half a season of fish time on it. I did not use it much in the early season (Crappie), waited and rigged it for crickets and Trout Magnets for the gills. For tight lining and floater fishing with crickets, I have been pleased. Most of the Bluegill beds I fish are NOT around hangy structures like bushes or trees, therefore when the gills tear out on their characteristic freight train runs I just let them go and enjoy the ride. When using the 1/64 and 1/32 oz Trout Magnets with the light braided line I get ample casting distance and sensitivity on the strike is good. I would like a little more backbone in a rod for the deep jigging for Crappie I enjoy doing in the hot months of summer. My arsenal in the past was a 8ft Uncle Bucks jig pole, circa early 2000’s I think and a 7ft Microlight BPS in light action. While they have served their purpose and put many fish in the live well, I just did not realize what was actually available out there in the UL world. Being a former green carp fisher I saw the apparent influence of Japanese products infiltrating the fishing scene but never explored the avenues. Seeing and reading the information here has piqued my interest and I appreciate all the videos, pictures, and reports on this line of tackle. The 7.6 Diawa that LedHed describes seems like it would fit the bill for Crappie and Gills and the varied ways I fish here in East Tennessee with the changing seasons. I may be ordering one soon and may seek your advice on the process. Thanks for everyone’s input.

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06-22-2018, 10:09 AM
LedHed

Randy - the St Croix rods I have are the panfish series.
great site dbd
If you like the lite Stan, you would really like the UL.

Been reading up and checking out the UL baitcasters - that's some really crazy stuff
06-24-2018, 07:29 AM
LedHed

a mutant - still in the pond
06-24-2018, 09:01 AM
gillchaser999

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Originally Posted by LedHed

Randy - the St Croix rods I have are the panfish series.
great site dbd
If you like the lite Stan, you would really like the UL. f

I like the Panfish and Trout Series of rods from St Croix . They are the most sensitive, advanced , UL rods designed in the USA . And you get a warranty in case you have a failure. Gillchaser
06-24-2018, 11:53 AM
dhaire

We used to have bluegill that size until the Asian Carp ate all the grass, hydroplane, duckweed and every other green foliage. Thanks Texas Parks and Wildlife for bending to the will of a few wealthy lakefront owners who were inconvenienced by having to clear their docks every 3-5 years.

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06-24-2018, 01:08 PM
Alphahawk

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Originally Posted by dhaire

We used to have bluegill that size until the Asian Carp ate all the grass, hydroplane, duckweed and every other green foliage. Thanks Texas Parks and Wildlife for bending to the will of a few wealthy lakefront owners who were inconvenienced by having to clear their docks every 3-5 years.

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Are you sure they stocked Asian carp? I highly doubt that.....must have been grass carp.....Asian carp are plankton feeders....I’ve never read of any state wildlife agency stocking Asian carp.

Regards

Just pulled up several news articles about that...it is grass carp.

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06-24-2018, 04:25 PM
dhaire

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Originally Posted by Alphahawk

Are you sure they stocked Asian carp? I highly doubt that.....must have been grass carp.....Asian carp are plankton feeders....I’ve never read of any state wildlife agency stocking Asian carp.

Regards

Just pulled up several news articles about that...it is grass carp.

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Yes, you are right. I knew they were not native but did not realize the difference from other carp. Definitely grass carp and they are still in the lake in great numbers. Thx.

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