Spider rig placement help!

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05-30-2018, 08:25 PM
SlabSeeker0485

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Spider rig placement help!

I’m needing to change my spider rig setup bc it wears my back out having to reach so far. So I need some opinions on what you guys prefer and how y’all think I should set mine up. I have an xpress with a front end not ideal for spider rigging as u will see in the pics. So I’m trying to decide between a high or low setup. That’s where I need yalls opinions. My current setup is high but my issue is my seat pedestal from the factory is way back on the deck making it hard to reach. My possible solution would be to add a center pedestal to be closer or maybe an offset pedestal but not sure that would be enough. Also with that setup, I’m wanting to add a 2nd rig and with my trolling motor where it is, idk if I can get another rig high without it being too crowded. Soooo I started looking at a low mount option. But it seems kinda to low. I could easily get two rigs down there and situated but would my rods be to horizontal to the water? Running 16’ trolling rods. Sorry for being so long but I’ve been wracking my brain on this and wanna be sure before I start adding more holes. Forgot to mention that I plan on moving my fish finder to the center on a Ram mount. Thanks in advance Attachment 305142 Attachment 305143 Attachment 305144 Attachment 305145
05-30-2018, 08:33 PM
2boatjoe

I would do offset rod holder posts that is what I did on my old tracker I had. If you move your pedestal up to far it will make it hard to use the foot pedal. I had perodi built rod holders and he custom made them for me. They tread in at the base with an offset post so you could change where they where very easy.

Joe

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05-30-2018, 08:35 PM
catchNgrease

Have you considered moving the seat

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05-30-2018, 09:18 PM
SlabSeeker0485

Spider rig placement help!

Quote:

Originally Posted by catchNgrease

Have you considered moving the seat

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Yea I thought I had mentioned scooting it closer? That would be the ideal move but then I run into the issue of being crowded on that front deck with where my trolling motor is mounted. Not to mention haven’t quite figured out how I can install a new floor base bc that section is completely enclosed. That’s what sucks about the factory one being at the back of the deck.
05-30-2018, 09:21 PM
2boatjoe

You may want to check into a double down kind of seat that you can move around.

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05-30-2018, 09:33 PM
catchNgrease

Is that a 9" riser on the rod holder

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05-30-2018, 09:38 PM
SlabSeeker0485

Quote:

Originally Posted by catchNgrease

Is that a 9" riser on the rod holder

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No it’s the 18”
05-30-2018, 09:41 PM
SlabSeeker0485

Quote:

Originally Posted by 2boatjoe

You may want to check into a double down kind of seat that you can move around.

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I used my blind chair a lot this past spring and it was fine but not near as comfy as the millennium I should be sitting in lol. Does anyone know the best way to install a new floor pedestal base into a front deck with no access panel? I am looking at possibly using real big threaded rivets but not sure on the strength.
05-30-2018, 09:42 PM
catchNgrease

Is it wood or Al?

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05-30-2018, 09:42 PM
SlabSeeker0485

Quote:

Originally Posted by catchNgrease

Is it wood or Al?

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Aluminum
05-30-2018, 09:46 PM
catchNgrease

Have one welded in.

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05-30-2018, 09:49 PM
SlabSeeker0485

Quote:

Originally Posted by catchNgrease

Have one welded in.

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That is a solid possibility... hadn’t even considered that. Gonna research the rivet route first and see if that could work.
05-31-2018, 05:21 AM
wannabe fisherman

Quote:

Originally Posted by SlabSeeker0485

That is a solid possibility... hadn’t even considered that. Gonna research the rivet route first and see if that could work.

wouldn't try that UNLESS there's support UNDER the floor as just that aluminum is probably to thin by it self
05-31-2018, 11:57 AM
deltarat

You could cut a hole in the back of the deck with a hole saw big enough to reach through and put nuts on the bolts for a new pedestal. You should be able to find a cover for the hole at a boat supply company. How is the pedestal you have now secured? You don't think the offset pedestal would move you forward enough?
05-31-2018, 12:33 PM
Tom 513

I HAVENT READ ALL THE RESPONSES, BUT IT SOUNDS LIKE A CUMBERLAND 2 SEAT MOUNT WOULD SOLVE YOUR ISSUES, THIS MOUNT CAN SWIVEL FORWARD AND BACKWARDS
05-31-2018, 12:38 PM
SlabSeeker0485

Quote:

Originally Posted by deltarat

You could cut a hole in the back of the deck with a hole saw big enough to reach through and put nuts on the bolts for a new pedestal. You should be able to find a cover for the hole at a boat supply company. How is the pedestal you have now secured? You don't think the offset pedestal would move you forward enough?

I honestly don’t remember how the current one is mounted bc I have a neo-mat and don’t see the actual base. I would assume welded. I think the bushing is worn out tho bc my seat has a lot of movement. I considered cutting an access hole as well. How much does an offset pedestal move you forward?? That would likely be my easiest and cheapest move to try.
05-31-2018, 12:39 PM
SlabSeeker0485

Quote:

Originally Posted by wannabe fisherman

wouldn't try that UNLESS there's support UNDER the floor as just that aluminum is probably to thin by it self

Welding or rivets?
05-31-2018, 12:40 PM
2boatjoe

I want to say the offset post is 4 or 5 in

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05-31-2018, 12:41 PM
SlabSeeker0485

Spider rig placement help!

Quote:

Originally Posted by Tom 513

I HAVENT READ ALL THE RESPONSES, BUT IT SOUNDS LIKE A CUMBERLAND 2 SEAT MOUNT WOULD SOLVE YOUR ISSUES, THIS MOUNT CAN SWIVEL FORWARD AND BACKWARDS

I don’t think my boat is wide enough to accommodate 2 seats up there with trolling motor. Them dudes are expensive lol. Do u know if they make a single post extension like that?
05-31-2018, 02:11 PM
slabin

Move seat bases closer and use rivnuts to mount the bases. If you have never used rivnuts they are solid as a rock when installed correctly.
05-31-2018, 02:15 PM
SlabSeeker0485

Quote:

Originally Posted by slabin

Move seat bases closer and use rivnuts to mount the bases. If you have never used rivnuts they are solid as a rock when installed correctly.

Where is the best/least expensive place to buy the rivnuts and gun?
05-31-2018, 02:20 PM
2boatjoe

Look for wingits

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05-31-2018, 02:21 PM
2boatjoe

That's wrong not wingits I can't remember what they're called when I think of it I'll let you know

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05-31-2018, 02:22 PM
2boatjoe

Plus nuts that's it you can buy them they come with a tool to put them on

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05-31-2018, 02:39 PM
3Redfish

Offset post

Try an offset pedestal post. That will allow your seat to swivel 4-6 inches forward, then backward for trolling motor foot control. I use this setup and it makes a big difference on back comfort while reaching for rods.
05-31-2018, 02:41 PM
SlabSeeker0485

Quote:

Originally Posted by 2boatjoe

Plus nuts that's it you can buy them they come with a tool to put them on

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Will the tool screw into a regular rivet gun? Or is it a differing gun all together
05-31-2018, 02:42 PM
2boatjoe

The tool is some washers a spacer and a bolt. Comes with them most of the time

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05-31-2018, 02:47 PM
Northforker

https://www.
.amazon.com/gp/product/B003TODXQW/ref=oh_aui_detailpage_o09_s00?ie=UTF8&psc=1

https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B0...?ie=UTF8&psc=1

Rivnut gun and aluminum rivnuts
05-31-2018, 02:48 PM
SlabSeeker0485

Quote:

Originally Posted by Northforker

https://www
.amazon.com/gp/product/B003TODXQW/ref=oh_aui_detailpage_o09_s00?ie=UTF8&psc=1

https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B0...?ie=UTF8&psc=1

Rivnut gun and aluminum rivnuts

Thanks! I have a regular river gun but guess I just need the screw in tool and some aluminum rivets
05-31-2018, 05:12 PM
Tom 513

They fit fine on my tracker, its around 6ft wide

Quote:

Originally Posted by SlabSeeker0485

I don’t think my boat is wide enough to accommodate 2 seats up there with trolling motor. Them dudes are expensive lol. Do u know if they make a single post extension like that?

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05-31-2018, 05:44 PM
flintcreek

Look at toggler stainless steel fastners for mounting your seat base. Drill a 5/8" hole insert the toggler, lock it in place break off the plastic legs and bolt the base in place. I have used them on a couple of bases and they work great as long as the aluminum floor is strong enough. Home Depot or Lowe's may have them in stainless. They have the regular steel. https://www.walmart.com/ip/Garelick-...&wl13=&veh=sem

Also Scott at HiTek I think would be willing to custom fab you some posts to the height or off set you want for your rod holders.
05-31-2018, 05:49 PM
Hammmerhead

Move the troller at an angle. Its using a lot of needed space that might help a good bit in where you mount the rack. It looks like you're losing a lot of your rod length with the racks that far back.
05-31-2018, 05:52 PM
SlabSeeker0485

Quote:

Originally Posted by flintcreek

Look at toggler stainless steel fastners for mounting your seat base. Drill a 5/8" hole insert the toggler, lock it in place break off the plastic legs and bolt the base in place. I have used them on a couple of bases and they work great as long as the aluminum floor is strong enough. Home Depot or Lowe's may have them in stainless. They have the regular steel. https://www.walmart.com/ip/Garelick-...&wl13=&veh=sem

Also Scott at HiTek I think would be willing to custom fab you some posts to the height or off set you want for your rod holders.

I already talked with him about some shorter bars and maybe a 3-4” offset. I will likely go that route after I get my seat moved up some.
05-31-2018, 06:02 PM
SlabSeeker0485

Since we brought up shorter bars... where do y’all typically like ur rods to be that makes them the easiest to get to quick?? Knee height? Higher? I’m thinking possibly 12in bars vs the factory 18in?
05-31-2018, 06:05 PM
2boatjoe

Mine are just above my knee and right there

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