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Hi y'all, let me be up front, I AM NOT A FLY FISHERMAN lol. nothing against it just never got into it, but anyway, a number of years ago I was given a a 7 ft eagle claw fly rod by my dad,(he tried it and don't care for it) I don't know anything about it but I was curious if it would be worth anything? Thanks for any help
It's worth about $20. They still sell 'em today-- for about $20. ;)Quote:
Originally Posted by dirtrider389
Attachment 291098Attachment 291099 Good way to fill the freezer with these trash fish . lol
Got a fiberglass yellow Eagle Claw 5 wt. that always went with me as a backup rod when I went trout fishing. Not worth much as far as $, but works fine as a fly rod. It has a fairly soft action that you have to wait on when casting, but if you get the timing right it will sling the line quite well.
I am the last person to be mistaken for a fly purist, but a popping bug or small gnat on a fly rod for bream in spring is about the most fun you can have with your clothes on. You might want to invest in a cheap(but good) Pfleuger reel and some 5 or 6 wt line and try it. The longer you have it the more the fact your father gave it to you will mean to you. Keep it long enough and it becomes priceless.
Agreed. :cheers2Quote:
Originally Posted by SeaRay
It's a fine sport for anyone. I never leave home without a fly rig in my boat.
Those rods were a very slow action rod. This means trying to throw larger flys such as a popper will be very difficult. They are great rods to show beginners how a rod loads do to there extreme slow-soft action but not recommended as a popper flyrod.
dirtrider389, Howdy;
It's worth getting to know it, how to cast is easy once you stop thinking about as being difficult. For quick repeatable casting to the same zone they can't be beat.Quote:
Originally Posted by dirtrider389
Put a small popper of the end and just flip it out there ...
hank
They are good rods and good to learn on,foam spiders on top,bully spider let them sink.A martin fly reel and some BPS or other store brand line.The line weight should be on the rod.Use that weight or one size heavier.Watch any casting video by Lefty Kreh and you will be in business.Dont forget crappies love flies too.AND bass,carp,stripers,pike.muskies and of course those trout.
Fly rod-line size is determined by the manufacturer. They decide how the rod is to preform at a set distance then they try to cast several size lines to get the maximum performance from the rod. Each manufacturer has a slight difference standard but I can give a example.
Rod company XYZ throws 45 feet of 4,5 and a 6 weight line on there 9 foot medium action rod. It works best (loads and cast) best with the 6 weight line. They stamp the rod for a 6 weight rod.
If you throw less then 45 feet or even use larger flys with weight you could use a larger line size to get the same action in casting from the rod. However if you cast more then 45 feet of line you may want a line one size smaller ( 5 weight) to get the rod to load properly.
Last is is casting in heavy wind you can use a line one size smaller do to less wind resistance.
I have owned several EC fly rods.My point was for someone who has never thrown a fly,1 wt up helps to feel the rod load.I was trying to keep things simple.With modern specialty lines even wf have a dozen different tapers and the traditional way of determining the weight of a fly line,weighing the first 30 ft i believe is not accurate any more.I think the EC feather weights are inexpensive and a good rod to give it a try.
To my knowledge the standard is still the same in determining line size as it was in the last 40 plus years. If not please explain the new way of determining it. I have worked with at least a half dozen plus manufacturers and have not heard otherwise. If a new fly fishermen wants to feel the rod load easy I suggest a slow action rod. That is the purpose of the rod. Also fast action rods are very hard for beginners to cast as they take much more weight ( line) to load. By casting a line one size heavier with large flys it can create problems casting. One would be it could over load the rod. Also many try using lines heavier in windy conditions. This is 100% wrong. I think I made that point very clear. A new bee needs to use recommended line size as this is what will preform the best for for the equipment and has already been tested and determined by professionals in the industry.
Hey was trying to reply to someone requesting info on a particular rod.In no way was i making blanket statements.Fly Fisherman magazine had a recent article about lines and how the old standards dont fit with many modern rods and line tapers.The eagle claw rods are very slow,in my personal experience they come to life over lined or at least with the heavier of the 2 designations on the rod.As they say.your mileage may vary.
FWIW, the late "Bass" Jack Allen, a well-known Florida fly guide, used to teach beginners using a 4wt rod and an 8wt line. He believed it helped the newbie feel the rod load.
I read it. Spot on, IMO.Quote:
Originally Posted by jcozzz
The standard is still the same, but the line manufacturers and rod manufacturers aren't necessarily following the standards.Quote:
Originally Posted by addictedangler
Yes I agree on the line manufacturers are not the same . This is not new it was that for 40 years as I stated in my past posts. They changed the old A B C line system in the 60s ( or some where in the time frame). I would never tell a beginner to buy a $60.00 line 4 weights heavier to learn to cast then tell him he needs to spend $60.00 more so he can use the rod to fish and cast properly. That is why they make soft full flex rods. Many times articles are designed to promote products and new ideas. Does not mean it is good advice for most. Some of these guys flyfish for a very short period of time and become professional ( fishermen) writers. Also we are taking about a light weight trout type rod. When the reference is for a very fast action large heavy salt water weight rod I can see why he may do the 4 weights heavier. This in no way applies to trout or lighter bass rods.
I was referring to how the line companies are making heavier lines to cast these super fast action rods. For example, here's what RIO says about it's RIO Grand line:Quote:
Originally Posted by addictedangler
"The RIO Grand is a full line size heavier than the industry standard ... "
Can't cast that new 6wt? No problem! Just use a RIO Grand 7wt line (that has "6wt" printed on the package.) :banghead
Kelly Galloup has a Youtube video about this. John Waite devotes a couple of chapters to it in his book, Serious Flyfishing.
For the record, he didn't tell people to buy mismatched tackle. He used his own tackle when teaching.Quote:
Originally Posted by addictedangler
OK, I understand. They are telling us that it is not really a 6 weight but a 7 weight. Going up or down one size was a common explanation from as far back as as the early 70s when graphite fly rods came out. There is really not a lot new in the industry. Just a different wrapper on the package.
I stumbled onto some videos recently by a guy named Chris Korich. I've heard his name for years, but I heard very little other than his name. He learned fly casting in California with the Rajeff brothers and is a highly respected casting instructor. Anyway ... in his videos, he mentioned that he liked to teach people using older graphite rods and fiberglass rods because they have a softer action, and the student could feel the cast better.Quote:
Originally Posted by jcozzz
Here are his videos, if anybody's interested:
https://vimeo.com/user4826342
I picked up a 60’s era Garcia fiberglass fly rod, this past spring, in excellent condition w/ original rod sleeve. Looking forward to putting some gills on the grill one day. Good vid and post.
i was given a 8 ft eagle claw when my father passed. when i replaced the line i realized it was a 8 weight. i soon found out why, with the shorter rod and the heavy line your able to shoot the line in the wind alot easier, plus the fact that its fiberglass gives it a unique feel, i love the rod and every time i use it its like having my pappy with me, keep it and enjoy it.