I'm dreaming, browsing at used vehicles.
Seeing 5 - 10 year old trucks and SUV, 80 - 100,000 + miles, $20-$25,000.
Is this the norm? Have vehicles gotten that much better? Or just more expensive?
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I'm dreaming, browsing at used vehicles.
Seeing 5 - 10 year old trucks and SUV, 80 - 100,000 + miles, $20-$25,000.
Is this the norm? Have vehicles gotten that much better? Or just more expensive?
More expensive.
Some things have gotten better, like gas mileage, engine durability. Safety features raised the cost. Trim packages raise the cost. Brand new chevy 3/4 ton goes anywhere from 40k to 70k. Depends on options.
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Yep you can buy a new truck for what a low mileage one will go for. Used cars whent up after hurricane Katrina and the cash for clunkers thing and never came down.
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When I started driving in the early 70s, a car or truck with 100K miles was worn out, many rusted down. Today a car or truck with 100K miles will typically have years of good, serviceable miles left. MY 2007 F-150 FX4 has almost 170K and I would start it and drive it across the country pulling a heavy load any time.
Mrdux you are correct. Better gas mileage to. A 1970s truck had less than 200hp to now most are of 300hp and will pull way more
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Most gas engines today have about 150,000 miles before major service work is needed. Diesels are close to 300k. Truck engines.
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Thanks all! Now I need to get past the mental block I have with this .
If you stay up on maintenance you can get double those mileages no problem. It's all the sensors and other body related issues that nickel and dime you to death. Or rather 100$ and $200 you to death.
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I can also remember having enough room under the hood to climb in and sit next to the engine and do work. I put a new battery on my wife's 2011 Nissan Murano last week and had to take the breather off just to get to the battery. Took twice as long and too many bolts to lose. In July I bought a used 2017 Dodge Ram Rebel that someone returned after driving for 400 miles. I really wasn't needing or wanting to buy a truck, but had a boy who needed a vehicle. I traded my 2013 GMC Sierra (bought new in Benton) and the dealership sold it to my boy for exactly the same price I got for the trade in. It had 60,000 miles on it when I traded and I got $23,000 on the trade and saved about $15,000 off the sticker for the 400 miles. I'm not too bright, but I felt like I got a pretty good deal. Never owned a Ram, but its the best truck I've ever driven. I think the used trucks are WAY overpriced, but evidently people will pay that much for something with 100,000+ miles. I will go back to David Taylor's in Murray next time I'm in the market. They were not pushy during the sale and customer service after has been good. Doug, they might have one that matches your new boat.
Good find.
Some car batteries have to be replaced through the wheel well. My Traverse has the battery in the floor behind the front passengers seat, access panel and there she is. Simple and easy to replace.
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Don't be afraid to look outside of your market especially if it's a truck market.
Allow technology (apps) to do the leg work for you and find what your looking for. The further you look outside of your home area the options tend to get better. Get pre-approved, then your loaded for bear and can pull the trigger on the right truck.
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I need something else myself. Trying to keep my eye out.
I looked long and hard for my FX4 and found one in TX on E BAY for $7K less than I would have to pay locally with 2/3 the mileage local trucks had. I flew to Houston, dealer picked me up and took me to Cuero, TX, made the deal and headed to KY with the $7K in my pocket.Quote:
Originally Posted by bandchaser
Thanks bandchaser, good tip. I did same thing when I bought my boat.
Trucks are usually more expensive than cars. And it has gotten to where I would rather buy one with more miles and be a newer model than lower miles and older model.
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Why is that?Quote:
Originally Posted by Nutbush
Idk, trucks just seem to hold their value better. And parts just seem to be easier to get with newer vehicles to me. Now this and $1.09 can get you a sausage and biscuit from McDonald's ?
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Try searching through autotrader.com or cars.com. I was able to find exactly what I was looking for with low mileage for the price I was comfortable with. Took a couple of months but it was worth it.
I have a friend who sells cars. I've picked his brain a ton. Here are some things I've learned.
1. The internet killed the dealing with a dealership. They all know the base price for certain vehicles and they go by it. They sell now on volumes and not on markup.
2. Lease vehicles added too many "used" vehicles to the mix. 1000s are turned in daily. They know the base price when new, subtract the usage, and what is left is break even.
3. Leasevehicles are sold at auction. Dealerships buy them, put money in to fixing minor issues, cleaning them, and listening them. Any ones that sit over 30 days is stagnant money vested. They get marked down once, sit 10 days, marked down again, then traded to another dealer or sold at auction.
In 2007 he sold somewhere close to 175vehicles and made 120k. 5 years later he sold 400 and only made 70k.
Many dealers used to pay a certain price to the sales person or a percentage. You used to be able to subtract money from your profit to make the sale. Now, they get a flat price on vehicles.
The issue is the internet with instant access to 100 cars that meet the same specs and lease vehicles. You have two types, 1 that isn't driven because people don't want to go over on miles, and 2 that is way over on miles.
Trucks as leasevehicles are hardly used as intended.
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Yup had a chevy that had it in the trunkQuote:
Originally Posted by Hanr3
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The prices are painful. Fairway Ford in Ohio advertises F150s at 20-25% off MSRP. It makes it hard to buy a used on one for $25k, when you can get a new one for the low $30s.
Depends on what you’re looking for. Im in a 2012 4WD Tacoma with 116k. Maintained how it should be. Retainin’ the value.
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Don't mean to hurt anyone's feelings here but I never have felt sorry for lawyers or car dealers
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I purchased my boat before I had anything to tow it with. I have to have it towed home and parked in the driveway buy the seller. I took me 4 months to find a good deal on a truck. I finally found a 1999 Chevy Suburban with 72,000 miles. I paid 5 grand for it back in 2013. I still drive it today and it has been to Seattle Washington and Washington DC. She now has 129,000 and still drives like a dream. Only thing I replaced was the radiator. When I see the prices of new trucks I simply gasp at the prices. I will buy another one when gas gets back up to $4 a gallon and brings those prices way down like the last go round.
I don't blink on vehicle miles when I own them. Bought the Traverse with 80K on her. Now has 140K and the only thing I did was replace the alternator. Although while I was in there and had to remove the serpentine belt anyway, I also replaced the water pump and flushed the coolant system. This spring I need to replace the spark plugs and replace the torsion bar end links. I'll drive it another 100K. Although we may be looking at a 5th wheel and that means I need a truck. Might be getting a 3/4ton by Memorial day. 3/4 tons are hard to come by used around me. Not many sold out-right and even fewer are traded in while they are still young.
Hanr3 for a 3/4 ton, or 1 ton, look down this way. In fact theirs one on rt 127, immediately south of donnelson, Ill (by coffeen lake). Saw it sitting their my past trips to coffeen. If you want me to stop the next time, let me know.
Well the Ford dealer is giving me 39,000 trade in on my 2015 F-150 Lariat with 20,000 miles. Most don't even need a tune up till 100,000 or more! My first car needed points at about 10,000 and plugs at 20,000 wires at 40, - 50,000. By 100,000 it was ready for rings. I changed the oil every 3,000! Now 5, - 7,000.
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I own a 2010 F150 with the 5.4L. It just kicked over 188,000 miles. I bought it new on July 1st of 2010. Had to rebuild the limited slip in the rearend at 110k. Did plugs at 125K. Had to replace an O2 sensor. Change the oil every 5K and rotate the tires every 5k. Only put brakes on it once. I am on my 4th set of tires due to the amount of miles I put on it. Still running strong and still looks good except for a little cab corner rust. Overall been very pleased.
As a mechanic I see a lot of vehicles. I see many that have 200-300k miles. I have one I keep serviced that has 480+ k. Vehicles are made better for the most part. The prices are tough but they are definitely.
I had 94 chey 4x4 go 350K and never did anything to it and still have a 99 chevy with over 360K that has never had any oil added to it or anything major. 100K would not scare me on a chey IF I KNOW IT HAS BEEN WELL MAINTAINED.
Deltarat, you got some of the best years of those trucks. I wouldn't buy a GM truck that has the active fuel management with over 100k. I see too many with internal failures due to oiling issues to shut down cylinders. They make delete kits for them aftermarket now though. But even they are expensive.
I wan't buy a gas burner with more than 20 k unless paying cash . Anything over 60 thousand will be a heck of a deal .Quote:
Originally Posted by skunked again
I bought a factory ordered 1974 Nova and it cost me $3,000.00 brand new and then I bought a new 1978 F100 ford pickup for $5,000.00. Have not been able to buy a brand new nothing after those day just used because of the outrageous prices. Hard to believe a pickup is worth $60,000.00 now days.
I agree 100% on the hard to believe on the prices of pickups and suvs !!!! but talk about hard to believe, think about this !!! now these vehicle are in great shape but just thinkQuote:
Originally Posted by scrat
1974 Chevrolet Nova $23,495
1978 Ford F100 with 99,725 miles $21,995
I actually had bad luck out of the Chevys in the 90s. Had 3 or 4 of them and most where a nightmare. The new Chevys seem to be better now. I had the same problems with all of them transmission, water pump, heater coil, starter, and so on. Never had trouble with the motors every thing else was the trouble. Had my best luck with Toyota trucks. I have a Ford now and have been happy with it so far.
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My 99 with 360k on it has had radiator,water pump, and heater core. I decided at 250k it might need plugs. When I pulled one and it was sharp as a pencil, I didn't see how it was running, until I opened the new ones and they looked identical to the old ones.
After pricing, I'll stick with a suv, which are still overpriced. Or an AWD van. The bad part is, theirs only one awd midsize van.
think twice about an AWD if you get 1 bad tire you have to replace them all. Reason I was given is that all tires need to be as close to the same tread wear or it can mess up the gearing on an AWD.
To a dealer average mileage is anywhere from 12,000 to 15,000 miles per year just for reference
Thanks, didn't think of that.
I'm averaging 10,500 miles / year.
I got a 2012 Terrain last Aug. when I left the dealership I set the trip mileage on it to keep track of the miles I've driven it, as of today it has 2950 miles on it that I've driven, getting close to 65000 on the odometer. It had pretty low miles on it when I got it.Quote:
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