Maybe we can get back to "normal" over here. Damn repairs just about done per Corps.Attachment 286156
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Maybe we can get back to "normal" over here. Damn repairs just about done per Corps.Attachment 286156
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We held a very successful Geezer camp at Lost Rapids last year. The water was normal level then and I ran to the dam and saw no work going on. Have they worked some more on it? Tentatively planning a camp down there at spawn time. See post 117 at
http://www.crappie.com/crappie/oklah...r-camp-12.html
It's showing three feet high right now.
That level is incorrectQuote:
Originally Posted by IkenI
438 I believe was old winter pool
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Finally getting finished with a 2 year project to stabilize the dam and reline the outflow pipe. Maybe with the fixes we can get back to a normal operation of the dam. The levels have either had the bottom sucked out or running over the top because of flooding. Attachment 286334Attachment 286335Attachment 286336Attachment 286337
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Will I go back to winter pool of 438?
And summer pool of 440?
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I'll ask.Quote:
Originally Posted by Machine
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Quote:
Originally Posted by 9mmTeacher
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Pine Creek from behind the Dam post repairs. Attachment 286361
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now that is a detailed report!! with insider pictures to boot!!!
Yes, as soon as the conduit is turned back over to the local corps office management it is the understanding of the local ranger that the lake will be returning to 438 winter and 442.5 summer pool elevations.Quote:
Originally Posted by Machine
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Finally
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9mm...do they have a anticipated time line to finish the construction?
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Best guess at this point is 5 weeks. They are doing finish work, putting down grass, painting, replacing the highway, etc. Once complete they'll hand it back over. Should open up some more spawning grounds just about the right time.Quote:
Originally Posted by davebrown42
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Sounds great! We’re talking about scheduling a Crappie Camp there during spawn. Dates not determined yet. Suggestions?
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Late March or early April.
Pine Creek update: The current pool elevation is 445.54 (433.00 has been the interim normal during the embankment repair). The next few days are going to be questionable as we have predicted rainfall amounts (2" to 4") for early next week that "if" prove true will place us into 24hr operations. The other side of the equation is pending final inspection of the conduit repairs (scheduled for next Tuesday), we will be able to make flood releases. The timing of these two events (rainfall/releases) are subject to events beyond our control.
The positive in all of this is Broken Bow Lake may gain a few feet from the rainfall which is badly needed!!
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Little hight now ...
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9mm do you know what the new normal elevation will be?
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469.88 is current lake level.
Around 440 will be normal
It was 438 in winter and seemed like 442 in summer back in the day
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Thanks.Quote:
Originally Posted by Machine
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9mmTeacher and Machine.....do have any information when the Corps will start opening the gates? I read on the Corps Posts that the gates have not been opened since September 20, 2017. According to the Post, there seems to be a little more work to complete before the construction work is 100% complete. The Lake is 37.44 feet (470.98) above the normal 233.00. Our Camp is scheduled for April 5-8 and was wondering how much water the Corps would reasonable let out of the Lake before the first week in April. Any thoughts on this? We may want to consider moving our Camp to April 26-29 based on the projected Lake level in early April......dave
Down stream flooding is holding it up .Quote:
Originally Posted by davebrown42
I had over 12 inches last 7 days.
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Looking at down stream chart I feel like they will start 3-2-18
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Thanks Machine. Any updates will be appreciated.
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https://www.facebook.com/jeffery.kir...56251710812940
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5.4 feet away from spillway now
It rained over 5 inches last night
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Corps website shows 474.46 which is 41.46 feet over normal pool. David Stewart from Corps office in Valiant said earlier this week that they would not open the gates until the downstream creeks could take the water. Also, he thought they could have the lake down to near normal pool on our April 5-8 Camp dates. Machine what is your experience with drawing down 40 feet of water in 36 days? Assuming not much more rainfall.
Tough
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But if they have not spawned it can be great.
Like the year we made the video
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Our group has decided to monitor the lake levels for a couple of weeks before making any decision about changing lakes. We've all been looking forward to fishing the spawn at Pine Creek. We have our reservations at Area E at Little River Campgrounds. Hopefully everything will work out....dave
The camps may all stay closed due to damage
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Haven't thought of that! More to think about......
Sounds like this camp may be washed out. Bad pun��
Photos on Facebook of both gates open 13 feet today. David Stewart is the Ranger over there and his Facebook page is giving daily updates. Friend him and follow along.
https://m.facebook.com/story.php?sto...&id=1320267585
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I noticed the official word is that the campgrounds are closed till 15 March. I still have my April reservations and my site is one of the higher ones. Be interested to see if they can get the campgrounds open by then. Yesterday it dropped over a foot. Still 33'' above summer pool but I'll bet it would fish pretty good at 6-8' over.
Not reallyQuote:
Originally Posted by IkenI
Scatters them in the brush
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Dropped about 1 ft since yesterday with 2 gates wide open for 3/4 Of day. The lake is 42 ft over normal right now. If they could drop the lake 2 ft per day, that's 3 weeks to "normal." The problem is that there are 3 lakes that empty into Little River or its tributaries and they are all over reasonable levels by significant amounts. They have to juggle releases to keep from flooding a number of homes downstream in the Horatio, Arkansas area.Quote:
Originally Posted by IkenI
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Pine Creek Update: 14 Mar 2018
Releases from Pine Creek were resumed at 0730hrs (7:30am) this morning. Releases had been stopped on Monday to allow Engineers to inspect the new steel liner after four days of full open releases. The inspection yesterday revealed the liner is performing as designed and no issues of concern were identified.
Releases will be increased in three increments throughout the day today with additional releases anticipated for tomorrow back to two gates open 13.0 feet tomorrow.
At this release, Hydrologists anticipate an additional 21 days to reach the pool level 438.00. Staff continue to work diligently in addition to their flood duty responsibilities to assess and repair damages from flood debris. Campgrounds and boatramps will be re-opened as the water recedes and debris cleanup/repairs are completed. It will likely be 12-15 days before the first area (Lost Rapids) becomes available for use.
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Thanks for the update 9mm.
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