Networking or connecting with Ethernet cables

Ok I want to connect my 998 si hd to a Helix G2N . Is this called networking or is it the same as connecting with an Ethernet cable. (Just so it sounds like I know whats going on). Id like to know what is shared. Id like to know what cable or cables are needed. Id like to know if both transducers are on the transom of my boat will I have cross talk. Id like to know where the best placement of the mega transducer will be (I have a tracker magna deep vee aluminum boat). I'm sure more questions will come up. Thanks in advance.

In HB, Ethernet is networking ...

HELIX G2N can share with 998 >>> waypoints, Accessories, and Sonar (with CHIRP turned off) ...

Also if the G2N is MEGA - the MEGA 1200kHz frequency cannot be shared ...

You will need the AS EC QDE adapter cable for the HELIX ...
https://www.humminbird.com/productDe...eid=728&id=868

And you will need an Ethernet cable long enough to reach ...
https://www.humminbird.com/productCa...74&facets=7319,

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It is very likely there will be Crosstalk with xducers operating at the same time ... Both units set to using the same xducer (in the Network Menu) will eliminate Crosstalk ...
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Some mount the expensive MEGA xducer higher on the transom or a jackplate (for protection) and then use an additional 2d xducer with a Y cable for high speed depth readings ...

Rickie

This is going to be confusing. The 998 can use the mega xducer? I'm using 2 xducers on my 998 the hd and a seperate 2d for high speed. Will I be able to use the 2d for the helix unit. If so will I need any other cables. Can I use the splitter I have and the switch I use to go between xducer on my 998. Thanks again

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Originally Posted by gotta_fish

This is going to be confusing. The 998 can use the mega xducer? I'm using 2 xducers on my 998 the hd and a seperate 2d for high speed. Will I be able to use the 2d for the helix unit. If so will I need any other cables. Can I use the splitter I have and the switch I use to go between xducer on my 998. Thanks again

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Please explain the "splitter" and the "switch" you have so I can answer correctly ...

Rickie

The 998 cannot use the Mega XDCR for starters - but what Rickie said.........

I have a switch from.HB I believe it has 1 & 2 on it I use it to go between my 2d transducer and SI . The splitter has both transducers going to it then goes to the switch. When I get home today ill look for the package it came in and give you the model numbers. Sorry I couldn't be more clear in this

Can the Mega use the 2d transducer im now using on my 998

I think it's the TS 3w transducer switch. And I think the splitter is Humminbird AS SILR Y Transducer Adapter Cable

The Mega CAN use the 2D XDCR however the TS3 and AS SILR Y are not compatible with the Mega SI units.

Sound about right Rickie? :cool:

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Originally Posted by sfw1960

The Mega CAN use the 2D XDCR however the TS3 and AS SILR Y are not compatible with the Mega SI units.

Sound about right Rickie? :cool:

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Correct ....

Let's get some more info to see what we can set up ...

I think I understand there is the HDSI and an additional 2d xducer attached to the transom and both connected to the 998 (with the HB TS3 Switch) ...

1. Where is the 998 going to be after adding the HELIX ...??

2. Where is the Helix unit going to be ...??

3. Will there be a unit at the bow ...??

Rickie

The 998 will be on the bow. Thr helix will be at console. I do have the 2 xducers connected to the 998 through this switch

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Originally Posted by gotta_fish

The 998 will be on the bow. Thr helix will be at console. I do have the 2 xducers connected to the 998 through this switch

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So assuming the HDSI will be moved to the bow with the 998 ...

And assuming the 2d xducer will still be used for high speed ...

You will need the M 9 SIDBY Cable to connect the 2d xducer and the MEGA xducer to the HELIX ...
https://www.humminbird.com/Products/9-M-SIDB-Y/

You will need the AS EC QDE Ethernet adapter cable for the HELIX ...
https://www.humminbird.com/productDe...eid=728&id=868

You will need an Ethernet cable long enough to reach between the HELIX and the 998 ...
https://www.humminbird.com/productCa...74&facets=7319,
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The HB TS3 Switch cannot be used with the MEGA unit and still have DI from the MEGA xducer (there is no wire channel in the HB TS3 Switch that corresponds to the DI wire channel in the MEGA xducer cable) ...

Rickie

Ba dah boom, ba da bing........ :highfive

And assuming the 2d xducer will still be used for high speed ...*

You will need the M 9 SIDBY Cable to connect the 2d xducer and the MEGA xducer to the HELIX ...*
[url]https://www.humminbird.com/Products/9-M-SIDB-Y/...)))) I really would like to be able to use the 2d transducer. The M9 cable will allow me to use the 2d transducer on the helix correct. Will I have to go into the unit and tell it what transducer I want to use. I wont need a switch?

You will be UNABLE to use any switch with the Mega SI unit, the current 2D XDCR supports 175-225 kHz Chirp.

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9 M SIDB Y | Cables | 720101-1

​Y Cable - Side Imaging and Dual Beam - allows you to use two transducers on one unit without the use of a transducer switch. For use with Side Imaging products only, in conjunction with a dual beam transducer only. For improved high speed performance for bottom tracking. 30"

SUPPORTS MEGA SIDE IMAGING

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Will I have to go into the xducer settings and pick between the 2 xducers everytime I'm on plane. How many of you have had any luck getting the mega xducer picking up at speeds around 25-30

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Originally Posted by gotta_fish

Will I have to go into the xducer settings and pick between the 2 xducers everytime I'm on plane. How many of you have had any luck getting the mega xducer picking up at speeds around 25-30

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I have mine very low - just barely kissing the water and my rig runs about that speed - no issues, is you use the splitter you leave the MSI XDCR selected and there's no switching required.

GL

RAS

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Originally Posted by gotta_fish

The M9 cable will allow me to use the 2d transducer on the helix correct. Will I have to go into the unit and tell it what transducer I want to use. I wont need a switch?

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As Robert mentions, there are no settings to change with the use of Y cable and an additional 2d xducer ...

The HELIX will get 2d from the additional 2d xducer all the time (the Y cable disconnects the 2d piezo in the MEGA xducer) ...

Rickie

I just figured it would have to run on one xducer, is the mega xducers 2d just over ridden by the added 2d xducer. So all ill have to do is plug and go

Sorry I just re read the comment and see where the y cable disconnects the 2d .. Robert can you post a picture of your transducer location Please.

The added benefit of getting 2d from the additional 2d xducer is that the expensive MEGA xducer can be mounted higher on the transom for protection from being damaged by something floating on the water ...

Rickie

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Originally Posted by gotta_fish

Sorry I just re read the comment and see where the y cable disconnects the 2d .. Robert can you post a picture of your transducer location Please.

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If I can get to it in the garage, never took a pic...

Busy day tomorrow, if I remember!

Im trying to clarify how the 998 will read SI . If networked will it be able to read the mega tranducer if I have it set to 455 or 800. Will it pickup the DI and 2d . Im getting ready to buy it now . And want to buy cables and everything at 1 time .

Went ahead and bought the Helix 10 si g2n mega from Brain at BBG marine, Ouch that hurt.. Ill be askin a lot more questions.

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Originally Posted by gotta_fish

Im trying to clarify how the 998 will read SI . If networked will it be able to read the mega tranducer if I have it set to 455 or 800. Will it pickup the DI and 2d . Im getting ready to buy it now . And want to buy cables and everything at 1 time .

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All CHIRP in the MEGA unit will have to be turned off and set to fixed frequency ... Then the 998 will be able to use 83/200kHz 2d, 455/800kHz SI from the MEGA xducer ...

The 998 may have DI views but they will not be from the dedicated DI piezo in the MEGA xducer ...

Rickie

Got some more questions. I have a older navionics card and a newer lake master card. Which card will work for auto chart live? Will I need a card to run it? Robert when you get time, id still like a pic of your transducer location.

AutoChart Live uses depth and GPS position info ... A map card is not neccessary to create AutoChart Live ...

The HELIX has 8 hours of internal memory space to write AutoChart Live data to ... If you want more than the 8 hours of internal memory space, you will need a Zero Line card to write more AutoChart Live data to ...

AutoChart Live data is an overlay layer on top of map data ...

The AutoChart Live data (internally stored or Zero Line card stored) can be overlayed (and transparency adjusted) onto Navionics card data, LakeMaster card data, or onto the built in base map data ...

Rickie

Just got the Mega.Have any of you used the base map and had good results with auto chart live overlay. Maybe this is the way to go. Id still like to see a few pictures of the Mega xducer mounted on the back of an aluminum boat. I also have a SI transducer question. I know the beam is a thin slice. But how thin is it. Id like to know if its going to shoot straight down and to the sides. Will it be able to shoot between my transom and foot. Do you have a picture of the beam or know of a link I can go to so It can be a little more clear to me.

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Originally Posted by gotta_fish

Just got the Mega.Have any of you used the base map and had good results with auto chart live overlay. Maybe this is the way to go. Id still like to see a few pictures of the Mega xducer mounted on the back of an aluminum boat. I also have a SI transducer question. I know the beam is a thin slice. But how thin is it. Id like to know if its going to shoot straight down and to the sides. Will it be able to shoot between my transom and foot. Do you have a picture of the beam or know of a link I can go to so It can be a little more clear to me.

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Greg always explained that the SI slice beam was "as thick front to back as the xducer housing is long" ...

After installing, raise the motor all the way up and compare ... If the image is brighter (especially on the motor side) = this is indication the motor lower unit is blocking some of the SI beam on that side ...

Rickie

Been sick since thurs night. All I can do is look at the dang thing

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Originally Posted by gotta_fish

Been sick since thurs night. All I can do is look at the dang thing

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Send 'em to me and I'll test for ya ...

Rickie

BTW ... Get well soon ....

I got me a case of the sore throat & hackin' too. :bash

I should have been on the ice jerkin perch from 45 fow - they been killin' 'em...

Dawn & I got 59 yellow perch last week ago Friday - had perch for lunch a couple times last week.....


MMMMMMMMMmmmmmmm mmmmmmm! :ThumbsUp

I need more vitamin C!!!

Sounds like fun Robert. Did you by chance get to take a pic of the mega on your transom.im going to start the installation tomorrow

I decided not to network at this time. Will the GPS puck from the 998 I have improve my mapping or is the internal gps on the Mega good enough.

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Originally Posted by gotta_fish

I decided not to network at this time. Will the GPS puck from the 998 I have improve my mapping or is the internal gps on the Mega good enough.

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Mapping will be the same ...

Waypoints will be more accurate with an external mounted close to the xducer ...

Waypoints with the internal xducer will be off the distance from the internal GPS to the xducer ...

Rickie

Im going to try and get this on the boat tomorrow. I really hope I can get the xducer close on it. Ill post a pic when I get it mounted . Thanks Rickie

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Originally Posted by gotta_fish

Sounds like fun Robert. Did you by chance get to take a pic of the mega on your transom.im going to start the installation tomorrow

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Sorry, been really busy & slipped my mind!

I will try to tonight after I get home...

If you go ahead & start the mounting, start with it's surface barely below the hull bottom.

Install is complete. Not sure about the xducer ill mess with it some b4 I put it in the water. Well I cant seem to post any pix. I have a deep vee tracker, and as big as the xducer is it looks like its going to shoot the foot unless I trim the motor way up . Ill have to see what happens I guess. Any pictures of transducers on the back of a deep vee aluminum boat will be appreciated. 2 angle veiws one from the side one from the back Please.