Need help cutting the neck hackle I’ve seen a couple of videos that say cut a v but I don’t know if this right Attachment 284938 any advice appreciated thanks a Mike
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Need help cutting the neck hackle I’ve seen a couple of videos that say cut a v but I don’t know if this right Attachment 284938 any advice appreciated thanks a Mike
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xeVZB1JK3Tk
Try this. Joey used to be on here. crappieman58. passed a couple of years back
That’s the one I watched. But when I tie them you can see in picture it leaves a v is that ok
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I think this picture shows it better. What am I doing wrong
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Thanks Len
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i think Skip`s got a video on here search thread. looks like your v`s maybe a little long.
I cut mine the length of the hook from the back of the head to the bend of the hook.
Skip does have a good video on this if I remember correctly. Maybe he’ll post after while.
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My V's are about 1'4" of shaft, give or take depending on the size of the jig. On a 1/16 I will use 3 to 6 of these v's and I see none of the shaft when complete. They are placed in different places to keep the shaft sections from creating a lump.These I have heard called stingers and I use a medium chenille to complete the profile. Mixing colors of the v's can get a good effect also, such as say 3 black with 2 yellow chart on top of that. Mixing in some flash in between the v's also adds a different look. Skip ties in all his v's at once if I recall, but I don't have that dexterity so mine go in 1 or 2 at a time. I also add some from the base of the feather that kinda look like maribou to add bulk and slow movement action, all the pieces have a use.
The jig in the pic is similar to some I have tied before and they catch fish just fine. The shaft wont flex but the long fibers do a great job of giving good action. There is no wrong way to tie a jig, just different ideas to suit different needs. Mine is just some input to hopefully answer some of your questions. Skip has bags of these v's from feathers he has used the tips off of, so i'm sure he has more input to what I have started. Keep it up, you do nice ties that I'm sure will put fish in the boat.
I certainly do not have the experience(s) that so many on here do have, so consider that when reading my replies. Only about 4-6 months into this. Love it btw. It appears to me that what you may be talking about is that the stem of the 'vee' is not laying directly on top of the hook shaft/shank. I have had issues with that at times too. Experience and learning will help us no doubt. One other thing is that the vee's we cut nearer the tips have a smaller diameter stem and can be easier to keep in place. Those nearer the base are larger and stiffer and can rotate around the shaft on you. Try to get it started and then make sure you are pinching the stack further back to keep everything in alignment. With the smaller ones I usually tie tips and vees all at once, not so much with the bigger ones. The for vee only jigs I try to take care and keep it lined up so the vee tucks up like I want. BUT it doesn't necessarily matter to the fish. I have some that don't look as good as yours that have well over 100 fish on them. I think we can please them easier than we can please us sometimes. I sent Skip and Danny Matthews some pics of nylon jigs that I tied with my Daddy almost 60 years ago. They still work when I have the nerve to use them. They look nothing like what we are tying today. You're doing really good IMO
Thanks guys for the help. Guess I just need to keep practicing. I want them to look perfect and I’m just starting
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You guys never read the sticky post huh? Here is mine I copied from the sticky post, lol!Quote:
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MOV04332 mpeg2video - YouTube
Skip
I’ve watched that video. I guess the question I should have asked is how to hide the v cuts when tying to a jig. Ive read threw all the sticky’s
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skip has links in one of the stickys to fly anglers lot of basics for tiying in there.
I have read a bunch of the stuff he suggested. Good stuff. Can’t seem to find anything about hiding the v in the cut. Or do most people just use the end of feathers.
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cut v`s the length of the hook i use 4 to 6 tie on wrap the length of the stem about even with the hook point or bend.
Ok so the v goes past the bend and you don’t try to cover up the v is that correct
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the stem gos to the hook bend. the barbels extend behind the hook. with 4 to 6 v`s the barbels surround the hook. if i use two colors i tie the darker on top. will try to post some pic`s when i get home.
pic 1 1 v on hookAttachment 285123pic 2 4v`s on Attachment 285124pic 3 2v`s blk on topAttachment 285125finishAttachment 285126
I’m little slow but I think I got it now. You push the feathers together to fill in the v then tie them. That’s what I did wrong I left a big v. thanks
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When I tie my tails I put down the tip on my leg, then I stack about 3 V's on top. Then I pick them all up together and adjust where I want, pinch them from the side and tie it in. You do have to start off with the feathers leaning a little to your side as they will roll a little. I start wrapping my thread out to my stopping point, then I look at how it's sitting and adjust any that I want. Then I press my index finger tip tight against the thread actually on the opposite side from me so it will not rotate any more when I start wrapping back to the head and I do make these wraps tight. Once back to the head with a good number of wraps, tie in your flash or chenille or what ever you have next.Quote:
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Also look at this little test video I did checking out my camera. Sorry I never went back and did it proper, but maybe I will.
https://youtu.be/hsEIlWmp1ho
Skip
That’s fast. Thanks for the help. I was letting it slide to the side and not pushing it together. Once again thanks
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If you ever want to talk on the phone a little just PM me and we can set that up.Quote:
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Skip
Thanks I’ll pm you my number
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You gotta watch out for that Skip, he's like a crack dealer!!!!!
The next thing you know you will be hocking your other stuff just to buy more. Trust me :biggrin
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Try using smaller hackle and tying in the tips of 3 or 4. Something like your picture I would try if making a crayfish type pattern.
To me, the open V looks kind of like a minnow tail. Just a thought. Some fly tyer do that intentionally on the bait fish flies.