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Hey guys I know this has been ask a bunch but I didn’t want to research it that deep just wanted some feed back quick. I was wanting to know what is better a 1199 or a gen 1 helix 10. Unit is on front of boat at the trolling motor. Thanks for all the help please
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Helix 10 Gen 1.
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I have also wondered the same thing seems like the 1199 was made a lot sturdier than the Helix models from just looking at pictures. I would think the 1199 would be easier to take out and put back in the boat at the end of the day also. I have read where the Helix screen is much clearer than the 1199 also. This is a great question. I hope several will comment on this as I don't understand why or how Humminbird can now sell the Helix 10 for less than half of the price that the 1199 sold for. Just wondering if the older legion models will be working when the helix's has bit the dust.:twocents
1199 is square-ish screen - HELIX is rectangular wide format ...
HELIX has AutoChart Live ...
HELIX has brighter nit screen ...
HELIX will support updates longer ...
(HELIX 12 G1 offers CHIRP 2d) ...
Rickie
I've owned an 1199, while it was nice the Helix 12's (very comparable to the 10's except weight/size) are very nice and glad I switched over.
I have an 1199HD on my console and Helix 10DI G1 on the T-M. I use them totally differently but will be replacing the 1199HD soon with a Helix 12. The screen brightness PLUS being able to run the latest/greatest toys on the Helix is why I'll switch.
Question: How come not go with the Solix?Quote:
Originally Posted by mrdux
$$$Quote:
Originally Posted by Gindog
They are a little more for sure.I didn't know if there was something else. I really wanting to get me a pair of Solix' s units. I need to spend a day with someone with both units.Quote:
Originally Posted by mrdux
And the list goes on .....:ThumbsUpQuote:
Originally Posted by rnvinc
Are the helix gen 1 transducer and the 998 hd the same. If not is the helix transducer that much better
I guess I won't reply to the question since you maybe want Rickie or another experienced user to reiterate what I have already told you via PM.
:biggrin
HELIX 9 SI (G1) comes stock with the compact SI xducer (which can be upgraded to the HDSI thru the HB xducer exchange program) ...Quote:
Originally Posted by gotta_fish
HELIX 10 and 12 SI (G1) comes stock with the same HDSI xducer supplied with the 998 ...
Rickie
[QUOTE=sfw1960;3545139]I guess I won't reply to the question since you maybe want Rickie or another experienced user to reiterate what I have already told you via PM.
Sorry if I was rude , I asked that question tuesday , and figured you were busy. I should have waited another day or two for you to reply. I was just wanting answers to my question.
Thanks for the answer Rickie , I wasnt sure if it was a better transducer or the same.
I'm sorry if my answer wasn't clear or if you didn't get the reply to your PM the following morning to come thru on your end - this is the reply I sent to you in response to your PM ~ sent Yesterday, 05:42 AM:
This could have been confusing, because the older "Core" series HB units such as the 997/998/999 8" SI screens (898/899 7" SI) (and the 1197/1198/1199 10" SI displays) all use the HDSI transducer aka the XHS 9 HDSI 180 T (or TM version) XTM 9 HDSI 180 T Hi Def XDCR - which is also used on the Gen 1 Helix SI units, supplied with the 10's & 12's an upgrade option for the 7 and 9's as well ( though the 7 only can use 455kHz).Quote:
Originally Posted by sfw1960
Sometimes I may rush too quickly thru answering a question because I get a LOT of them - and between going fishing occasionally, working a full time job and trying to help folks with their electronics to get the most from them - I sometimes miss getting my point across well! YES - I do get busy at times....
This is a 3 element transducer that uses the SI imaging pulses to blend into the DI view by using the overlapping sonar data from each L & R channel.
The G2N (Mega SI) units use a 4 element transducer, that utilizes a true down facing ceramic peizo element that displays it's own true echoes in addition to a 2D element and right and left SI beams.
The 998 is a fine machine I loved mine when I owned it, as Rickie & Kosmo will readily attest to it's a capable machine.
Below is an image of what the inside "guts" with the 3 separate elements in an X-ray....
What you are gaining by going to the Gen1 Helix is the ability to create on the fly mapping via AutoChart Live(ACL), a faster processor and a higher resolution display which will give you the best images attainable without going to a G2N unit as the G1 Helix 12 SI only Chirps the 2D, not the SI/DI those are fixed at either 455 or 800 kHz and the SI & DI use the same frequency and cannot be set independently...
The G2N's can Chirp the 2D, SI and DI all using a different frequency spectrum for each - the 2D is 75-95kHZ/175-225 kHz, the DI can be 420-520kHz, 790-850kHz or the Mega band which is 1125 kHz-1300kHz ( or 1.125 to 1.300Mhz) and the SI can cover the same bands BUT can be independently adjusted from each other in nearly any combination.
:yikes
Hopefully that was a good, yet thorough explanation and helps you to understand the capabilities of the machines better.
I actually wanted to get a Helix 10 Mega SI - but they were on back order so long when they were released I finally said the heck with it and got the Helix 12 Mega.
If I had to do it all over again, I would have gotten the 10 Mega (a faster processor YET!) over the 12 Gen 1 - but like you, you have to consider how much you'll play with settings and best bang for your buck.
If I sell my Helix 12 DI Gen1, I am going to put a Helix 10 Mega DI in it's place for more display and Chirp options on the bow.
If you ever have questions, feel free to PM me or email me.
My email is my user name here @T gmailDOTcom and I'll try to help.
I hope there's no hard feelings and whatever choice you make, you're going to like all the new colors, mapping and technology options the 998 just doesn't have.
If I missed anything, Rickie - cuss me out!! :Rofl
HTH!!!!
Best~
Robert A Snarski
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Can the Helix G2 be eatherneted to the 1198?
HELIX G2 in 5" and 7" cannot Ethernet ...Quote:
Originally Posted by Boa3
HELIX G2N in 7", 9", 10", and 12" can Ethernet ...
HELIX G2N can share waypoints, accessories, and Sonar (with CHIRP turned off) with the 1198 ...(MEGA frequency cannot be shared to 1198) ...
Rickie
Robert, you competing with Tesla?:Rofl
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Thanks Rickie
What will I get by etherneting a G2N with my 998 , & what will I need to order at time of purchase. I have my tranducer on the back of my boat , its a deep vee , can I run both at the same time . What is the best location to mount it. Im going to need a lot of help.
Im going to start a new thread
Answered in that other thread ...Quote:
Originally Posted by gotta_fish
Rickie
Naw Donnie - that HDSI XDCR X-Ray Pic has been around a long time, I bet Rickie had a copy long before me.
:ThumbsUp
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Originally Posted by Don G
I have that one and an xray of the LSS 2 ...Quote:
Originally Posted by sfw1960
I wish I had xray's of several more ... Anyone here have access to an xray machine ...??
Rickie
:Rofl I hear ya!! :RoflQuote:
Originally Posted by rnvinc
I really wish I did, but I only deal with some CNC stuff thru my current employer Rickie.
The MSI & MDI XDCRs would be 1st on my list......
Then the LSS/TotalScan & TripleShot, then the Garmin line.... :biggrin
would love to see a Panoptix!
I see this post is from Feb --- I have been looking at the helix 9 side imaging units -- the International units have a card slot but the hummingbird site shows no map cards that fit this unit --- the info does show the unit has pre loaded Contour XD that has 1 foot Contours ... the Hummingbird map cards only show about 10 lakes in Louisiana and D'Arbonne is now on the American Crappie trail and this lake is not on those map card list.. If I get the Helix 9 what are the Options for Contours
HELIX 9 has two full size SD card slots ...
HB can use Navionics or LakeMaster mapping products ...
Rickie