A subscriber suggested that I use a sabiki-type rig for catching bluegill. So I tested it out after instaling a new power on my boat:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pJQWa2oSS5k
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A subscriber suggested that I use a sabiki-type rig for catching bluegill. So I tested it out after instaling a new power on my boat:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pJQWa2oSS5k
I saw some Asian men using them for crappie one day and it seemed to be somewhat effective , I was surprised to see all them tiny flies when one pulled up his rig , cool vid
I got the idea of cutting them into individual sections with a very small swivel on each for attaching to the main line.
They certainly look as though they will work, but I as yet haven't tried them.
Cool video,looks like fun.
I dunno. That looks like 5 maggots on a line to me. Sabiki rigs use small flies, no bait.
Well, it doesn't matter what you call it. It's the principle. I tie my own flies, and I always tip my flies with maggots. Here I used a simplified version of my AMP fly. I've fond that bluegill don't like too much flash, so I used brown and tan deer hair along with red chinchillia feathers for a natural looking fly. The fact that the fly looks like a maggot means the fly is working perfectly as designed.
Not sure why people only think of things in a set manner with no deviation. If I had called it my own rig, someone else would have said "No, no, no! That's a Sabiki rig." I'm fishing for food here, not sport. I'll use any method legal, and I don't care about the names we call things. If it is a legitimate method, I'll use it, but adapt it for my needs. That's what I've always done on my YouTube Channel.
That's not to mention that the fish didn't care that is wasn't a "true" Sabiki rig. I caught fish, I feed myself this week, and helped others do the same.
At some point in history there was no such thing as a Sabiki rig. Someone had to invent or develop it. They probably used some previous rig as a model, basis or influence.
No worries. To each his own.
My personal feeling is that when one puts bait on any "lure" you are then bait fishing
and not lure fishing.
Try your sabiki without "tipping" with maggots and see what happens.
I won't fish that way because it won't fill my freezer. Sorry.
I use lures to lure fish into the area near about the bait. I use bait to make them bite. The lure is there simply to add vibration and visual element. If you watch my YouTube channel you will see that I have tried both individually. Using both produces more fish because each makes up for what the other doesn't provide. I don't fish your way because I fish for different reasons. It may not be your preferences, but your preferences don't feed me.
Consequently you just gave me the name for this: BaitBiki Rig.
That's not to mention the walleye fishermen who use nightcralwer rigs with bait, beads and spinners, nor the stripper fishermen who use bucktail jigs with dead bait as well. There are any number of fishermen who combine artificial and live/dead bait, nor the catfishermen who are now using rattles with cutbait.
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Originally Posted by funbun
Here's a revelation for you. I am a meat fisherman. You are making an assumption in thinking I am not. My comments have NOTHING to do with what you do with your catch. And none of my comments are PERSONAL.
But I am also a stickler for calling things what they are.. I see this all over the net. People putting on a "Favorite Lure" on their line and then "tipping" it with bait. And then saying they caught it on their special lure. Ridiculous.
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I'll give you that. I apologize for assuming how you fish.
Also you assumed as well that I'm trying to call this something that it isn't. The whole video I was struggling to give it a name. I never claimed to be artificial lure fishing. That was a bad assumption on your part, sir. When there is no name for what you're doing, you have to come up with a new name. You seemed to miss the whole point of the video. Most of what I do combines many forms of fishing. There isn't a name for much of the stuff I do. It isn't purely bait fishing, nor is it artificial. I never claimed that the artificial caught the fish. I always use bait. The lures just complement. It's a hybrid system. If there is no name for exactly what it is, then you claim I'm calling it something that it isn't, then you're making as big an assumption as I did.
I'm a stickler for developing hybrid methods for which there is no name, no exact name. I often reach out to forums like this for help, but I get responses like yours that assume I'm calling it something that it isn't. Quite frankly it has rubbed me the wrong way. I'm trying to share something, and all I get is criticized for it. It makes me feel this is not an open forum for sharing ideas and variations on things.
What's more the entire video came about because of a subscriber on YouTube who saw me handline fishing the way I do, and suggested a Sabiki rig to help me catch more bait for my catfishing. He was a regular subscriber who knew how I did things and suggested it not as a purely artificial rig. He meant why not apply some of the known methods in Sabiki rigs to my handline-live bait/artificial lure methods to develop something new, a hybrid as such. That's what my channel is all about. That's what I do. Every week.
I use a go kart motor for an outboard. What does that make it? I use cane poles with leadcore line for drifting? What does that make it? I use slip floats in fixed position. What does that make it? There isn't a name for things when you experiment all the time and stumble onto new, effective combinations.
Everyone else on this thread has offered suggestions on how to make the rig better, or they have given examples of people using the pure form of the rig, in a similar context that they've witnessed, despite what it could be called. If you can offer a suggestion to make it more effective, given it a better more descriptive name, then fine. But just to point out that I'm calling it something that it isn't does not add to the conversation, nor does it better the design.
Thank you, sir for your help, and I hope you have a great rest of 2017.
I actually stumbled into drop shot fishing by using the Sabiki rig for trout fishing.I limited the amount of flys to three,because it let me halve the original set up,giving me an extra rig.I probably fall into the category of variating from the original,but I found they worked much better for trout when I tipped each little fly with something..........did this make it something other than a Sabiki rig ? I really don't care,to each his own.
I since have tied several Sabiki rigs for crappie and gills,for gills I go with tiny flies and/or jigs,for crappie I step up the size.I do more often than not, tip one or all flys with live or artificial maggots or mealworms,in my experience,my catch ratio has improved noticeably when I do.I will from here ever after call my self tied,often baited Sabiki rig,RONS NEW AND IMPROVED, SELF TIED,OFTEN BAITED,FISH CATCHING SABIKI RIG..........:Rofl
See, that's what I'm talking about! I went from five down to four. Na, it isn't a Sabiki Rig, it's a Super Sabiki Rig!!!!1!!!!! I tell people all the time I catch way more fish when combining flies with bait. Some people's poor sensibilities can't handle that. Oh, well, stocks my freezer, lol.
And you added to the conversation. That's great! I had thought about those bait nibble things, but never tried them much. Also I've tried tipping just the bottom on, but I find it's better to tip all of them because if bluegill strips one, there is still plenty of bait on the other, and I don't have to rebait very often.
How far do you space them? Mine are about six or nine inches apart or so.
Thanks for the light-hearted response, Yaker.
I space between 6-10",weight on the bottom,crappie nibbles are great.I have found out,for some reason I catch more on the bottom fly up,than top fly down,go figure.Anyway,keep the clips coming,I enjoy them,fish on!
Nice video.
I use sabiki rigs in the major river systems to catch bait and have used them to catch bait in the surf in the ocean. In the rivers if other fish are around the bait you will catch them sometimes too. They are too effective for most sport fishing. If you had a sabiki with the just the right lure on it for the species you're after it will clean their clock.
A lot of the lakes I fish have hook and pole limits. So you're limited with what you can do.
Makes you made when a big fish grabs em and breaks em off...also accidentally snag big fish with them. Asian Carp UUGGHHH!
I snagged about 4ft gar below Kentucky dam with one one time on ultralight rig....took me twenty minutes to get it in I bet.