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06-30-2017, 02:04 PM
Pontoon fishing

Skunked

No fish. No crappie no yellows no cats. No drumb. Does Not happen often but guess that why I like crappie fishing. Challenging !!!
06-30-2017, 02:31 PM
Shad

It is some tough fishing right now. Plus all of the pleasure boaters are out in force. The backwash from all the big boats sure don't help the finicky crappie bite.
06-30-2017, 02:38 PM
pab1981

They can be tricky sometimes Dwight, didn't make it back out this week and won't be out next week. If something doesn't happen to cause them to start pulling more current and water temps continue to rise, I wouldn't be surprised to see them slide back up a little shallower. Kind of opposite of what you would expect but normally happens in the next little bit under these conditions.

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06-30-2017, 03:28 PM
M R Dux

If they are pulling good current at both dams, the baitballs then the crappie will pull out onto the deeper flats and main lake ledges. We've had a lack of current the most of this week so bait and crappie are scattered everywhere.
07-01-2017, 06:58 AM
Shad

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Originally Posted by mrdux

If they are pulling good current at both dams, the baitballs then the crappie will pull out onto the deeper flats and main lake ledges. We've had a lack of current the most of this week so bait and crappie are scattered everywhere.

Hi Doug. I have been trying to watch water level and generators at TVA more to improve my fishing. I haven't looked everyday, but when I did look this week, they have been turning on 4 or more generators during the day. Isn't that some pretty good current? Just trying to learn. Thanks, Dave
07-01-2017, 08:21 AM
M R Dux

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Originally Posted by tncrappiebass

Hi Doug. I have been trying to watch water level and generators at TVA more to improve my fishing. I haven't looked everyday, but when I did look this week, they have been turning on 4 or more generators during the day. Isn't that some pretty good current? Just trying to learn. Thanks, Dave

Dave, I depend on the "TVA Info" app and watch the inflow and the outflow. Yes, 4 generators do create current but not in the range that it takes to make fishing better on the lake IMO. I want to see an "average discharge" number over 30K before I can depend on the current on the main lake having a big affect on fishing. Today's prediction is 21K with 25K for the next few days. Keep in mind that most of that outflow thru the generators will happen during the afternoon and early evenings.
07-01-2017, 10:39 AM
Shad

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Originally Posted by mrdux

Dave, I depend on the "TVA Info" app and watch the inflow and the outflow. Yes, 4 generators do create current but not in the range that it takes to make fishing better on the lake IMO. I want to see an "average discharge" number over 30K before I can depend on the current on the main lake having a big affect on fishing. Today's prediction is 21K with 25K for the next few days. Keep in mind that most of that outflow thru the generators will happen during the afternoon and early evenings.

Only way to learn is to ask. No way I would have ever known that. Thanks for that info and helping me (and everyone).
07-01-2017, 08:17 PM
Crapnute

That is good stuff. Fished last Sunday morn on GRL. Should've went to church. Took a buddy. He caught one short in 6 hours. I caught 1 keeper & a spot. Beautiful day, but tough bite. Maybe try to troll a jig next time.
07-02-2017, 05:07 AM
BIGBADDAD

Dux is correct but that makes for another reason to troll. Fish are sluggish, so troll and go to them not wait for them to come to you....my philosophy for what its worth!!
07-02-2017, 07:14 AM
M R Dux

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Originally Posted by Crapnute

That is good stuff. Fished last Sunday morn on GRL. Should've went to church. Took a buddy. He caught one short in 6 hours. I caught 1 keeper & a spot. Beautiful day, but tough bite. Maybe try to troll a jig next time.

I know I'm comparing apple to oranges because of the time frame but when the Spring Fling was at Green the last weekend of April, we had already started a good crankbait bite here on KY. Dutch522, Rickie (rnvinc) and I had decided we were going to throw caution to the wind and live or die with cranks at Green. It took us a while (Dutch actually a couple of hours) to find a pattern and we set about to try to provide enough fillets for the fish fry. Between the 2 boats in less than 2 full days fishing, we boated over 100 keepers and didn't have to worry about keeping or even counting the 9 inchers. We just started covering water. Lots of water. The crappie let us know what colors, depths, and action they wanted by us changing baits till we hit on the combo. A couple of colors were customs I painted but most were right off the shelf at WalMart. You've just got to be comfortable getting out of your comfort zone and trying something totally different than your usual.

We opened some eyes up there. Rickie and I had never seen the lake prior.
07-03-2017, 05:55 AM
BIGBADDAD

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The app is better but here it is on my computer...https://www.explorekentuckylake.com/weather.htm

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07-04-2017, 09:05 PM
jordanjones

mrdux and bigbaddad, thanks for the generator info. I too look at the number of generators and not necessarily the flow. Always room to learn more
07-05-2017, 05:52 AM
samjoe

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Originally Posted by mrdux

Dave, I depend on the "TVA Info" app and watch the inflow and the outflow. Yes, 4 generators do create current but not in the range that it takes to make fishing better on the lake IMO. I want to see an "average discharge" number over 30K before I can depend on the current on the main lake having a big affect on fishing. Today's prediction is 21K with 25K for the next few days. Keep in mind that most of that outflow thru the generators will happen during the afternoon and early evenings.

Mr Dux,does the 32k criteria stand for Barkley too? Also,if the forecast is for 32 k at say noon,when would i see 32 k current at Donaldson creek?I hope thats not a dunb question.
07-05-2017, 07:23 AM
M R Dux

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Originally Posted by samjoe

Mr Dux,does the 32k criteria stand for Barkley too? Also,if the forecast is for 32 k at say noon,when would i see 32 k current at Donaldson creek?I hope thats not a dunb question.

32K on Barkley will be more felt current than 32K at KY. That said, I just looked at Barkley for the next couple of days. They are going to be running over 30K outflow but the inflow is higher than the outflow. IMO that means the level is going to be rising and the current will be pretty low. I want the level to be falling slightly or at least staying the same with the inflow being equal to or less than the outflow. For 7/7 the average inflow is predicted at 44.8K with the outflow at 31.7K. That means rising level with little current. I'd still go fishing but I'd be looking for the fish in locals different than I would with high current flow.

As to the felt current at Donaldson Creek, the current won't be an issue in any creek unless the outflow is well up there, like 60K-70K. You won't see a swirl behind a buoy up in a creek like you will on the main lake very often. The bait and crappie might move out toward the mouth in a heavy current. On a slack current they tend to scatter all over.
07-05-2017, 07:45 AM
samjoe

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Originally Posted by mrdux

32K on Barkley will be more felt current than 32K at KY. That said, I just looked at Barkley for the next couple of days. They are going to be running over 30K outflow but the inflow is higher than the outflow. IMO that means the level is going to be rising and the current will be pretty low. I want the level to be falling slightly or at least staying the same with the inflow being equal to or less than the outflow. For 7/7 the average inflow is predicted at 44.8K with the outflow at 31.7K. That means rising level with little current. I'd still go fishing but I'd be looking for the fish in locals different than I would with high current flow.

As to the felt current at Donaldson Creek, the current won't be an issue in any creek unless the outflow is well up there, like 60K-70K. You won't see a swirl behind a buoy up in a creek like you will on the main lake very often. The bait and crappie might move out toward the mouth in a heavy current. On a slack current they tend to scatter all over.

Thanks for the reply.What i meant was if a given flow is forecast for say 2pm.Would the main lake at Donaldson creek have that flow at that time? Or does the flow take a while to move upstream?
07-05-2017, 09:11 AM
M R Dux

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Originally Posted by samjoe

Thanks for the reply.What i meant was if a given flow is forecast for say 2pm.Would the main lake at Donaldson creek have that flow at that time? Or does the flow take a while to move upstream?

Current is constant all the way thru the lake. You should see an increase in current in the hot part of the day as they put more generators on for power demand. It's not like a wave that moves down the lake. It is just movement of all the water from the headwaters of the lake to the dam.

So to answer your question: Yes, the current flow should be felt as an increase at any given spot. The bait and crappie tend to move out toward the mouth of creeks as current increases.
07-05-2017, 09:16 AM
samjoe

Thank you Mr Dux. I'm going to get my teenagers out on a ledge this weekend for bass.
07-05-2017, 09:24 AM
M R Dux

Hope it helps. Years spent trying to figure out crappie, sauger, white bass, you name it on KY and Barkely has made me check current flows before I even check the weather IF I'm fun fishing rather than fishing with clients. Those current flows will help me know where I need to consider starting my quest.