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Thinking of starting to experiment with pushing crankbaits. Was wandering about how is best to rig them for pushing, Ky. rig style with weight in the middle, weight on bottom? How much weight to use? One crank per line or two? Just curious how to start doing this.
There are variations. Usually 2 or 3 ounce weight at the bottom ,around 3-4 foot up a 3-way,and 3-4 foot of line to the crank.Everything depends on water depth you are trying to fish.
One crankbait per line.....3 oz. Trolling weight three ft. Above the crankbait
Click here.....and scroll the page and read all the threads on pushing cranks. http://www.crappie.com/crappie/searc...rchid=21112699
I run Bandit 100 series or other brands shallow runners. You will put too much load on any pole trying to run deep diver cranks pushing. I even run rattle traps at times.
I run 300s alll the time pushing....work good. And rattle traps work great even the larger size ones. Been running some Pico Perch lipless crankbaits lately.
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Please disregard my attempt to help you as my experience pushing crankbaits is limited.It's obvious your other replies are from guys with more experience.Good luck.
Hey......its all goodQuote:
Originally Posted by Snagged again
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I like the idea of running a kentucky style rig, will try thisQuote:
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I watched them do this on In-Fisherman recently with the three inch old school Rapalas. They flat wore them out.Quote:
Originally Posted by Rees Guide
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My thing is that you would be able to see the wiggle of the rod with the weight on the bottom, sometimes, as ScottV calls em, you pick up hitchhikers and don't even know it with the weight in the middle.
I push cranks all the time. No big deal. I use a 3 or 4 oz (depending on how deep I'm fishing) Scott V pushing weight 4-5 feet above a single crank. Sometimes I tie a 1/4 roadrunner and Southern Pro Hot Grub or curly tail of your choice 3' above the crank. The Offshore Tadpole works well both pushing and pulling too.
I use the roadrunner pulling also. They hit the jig about as good as they hit the crank on most days.
BRM
Around here, my crank pushing buds use 2oz weights & a 5ft leader between the crank & weight ... and usually run at ~1.8mph
I've done it with 1/2oz weight & a 2ft leader @ ~1mph ... and caught fish ... but, I was just starting out "pushing" jigs, and simply replaced the jig with a crank (just to see if I could catch anything on them, with my speed limited by my 12V 42lb thrust trolling motor) I was also only running 3 rods.
I used to tie up kentucky rigs with a 4oz bank sinker when I first started, 2ft below swivel, with at least a 3 ft leader to get some separation from the weight. i like the pushing weight scottv makes, still have the original 8 I bought from him a few years ago. It just has less line to get tangled and store really easy.
I started out with KY rig ..you can pull 2 cranks..I liked a bandit on bottom, a smaller floating bait like a Jointed Rapala on top...I seemed to get tangled allot..also 4 or 5 treble hooks swinging in the wind was a bit dangerous to me..but it works . Just use ScottV's weights now
Thanks a bunch for all the input, i truly appreciate it!!
BRM, do you use any weight with the roadrunners or just the RR alone?
G,
I used Pico perch lures long before rattle traps ever came out. They was one of the first lures I ever had, it and heddon chugger or tiny torpedo.
When pushing cranks, are they straight down like spider rigging and in front of the boat or do you let out more line and they are under or behind the boat?
You put enough weight on them to keep the line at a 45 degree angle....i use 3 oz. And run 1.8 mphQuote:
Originally Posted by deltarat
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I have been using the KY rig with a suspending 2.5 inch Rapala minnow bait on a 4 ft leader, or I use a 1/2 to 1 oz weight with a 4' leader and a jig that bugman sells that has a 26 or 28 degree hook eye bend and a rubber bait or live minnow and troll it or push it. I also have just the plain 26 or 28 degree bend hook without lead on the hook which is rigged on a 4 or 5 ft leader behind a 1/2 or 1 oz egg sinker that I push, this rig without the sinker can also be long lined with a split shot up the line 2 to 3 ft and your choice of baits
I run mine with 2 ounce weights on a Kentucky rig with the weight on the bottom. I have no issues. I keep the loops short, 6" or so. I also use different sized crank baits and they work fine.
Everyone has their favorite way.
I run mine with no swivels, all main line.
Dang I thought those were antiques, didn't know PICO made themQuote:
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Those who have run Kentucky rigs and Scott V rigs...
Any difference in getting hung on brush? Seems like the Kentucky rig might bounce off stuff better.
8 oz on the bottom and crank about 5 or 6 ft up from that on a 3 way swivel. Your gonna need cane poles but it's I can promise u it's a fish catching machine. Pontoons around here invented pushing cranks
Mitch Glenn recently bought Pico....those are antique Pico Perch that i bought on ebay. Mitch is going to bring them back into production in crappie colors along with a new line of lipped crappie crankbaits. Pico has been in business since early 1930's.....they designed and made a lot of lures back in the day for Heddon. Mitch is bringing this company back from the ground up and there will be some good things coming from them later on this year and next year. I will start a new thread later today with pictures and show you what we are working on and bring everyone up to date on PICOQuote:
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I had heard Mitch had purchased PICO. I wish him and PICO nothing but the best for the years to come. Looking forward to seeing the new products and maybe some old ones renewed again
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will the three way swivel rig tangle much?
Inline trolling sinker is much betterQuote:
Originally Posted by jordanjones
Either type rig will get hung up in brush. Your crankbait will be running about a foot deeper than the trolling weight. What I do is use 20# braid line on both my reel and 3 ft leader. 90% of the time I'll get my crankbait back after getting hung up. Attachment 268364Quote:
Originally Posted by Up2Early