Caught in two back to back casts this morning. Bottom fish is what all of the rest look like... What is up with the top one?
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Caught in two back to back casts this morning. Bottom fish is what all of the rest look like... What is up with the top one?
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Yes, you do.
Looks like a white Crappie with stripes going through wrong way (smile). Maybe a boy crappie finished with his tuxedo until next time.
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We have both black and white crappie in the lake, so I figure this may be some sort of hybrid, although it was fileted and gone before I thought about counting fin rays...
The hybrids I have caught and know of will usually have the distinctive black streak running from nose to dorsal fin, sometimes to the tail. The only way to determine (black or white) on that one for sure would have been to count the dorsal fin spines. I will start to pickup a lot of pale fish in the late spring and especially summer, usually means pale fish been in deeper water and darker fish a good bit shallower, more exposure to sunlight. And heck, I've even had them go from dark to pale in a few seconds out of the water:dono
Sorry for an extra post, but can only send pics from my phone. This is the kind of hybrid I'm speaking of.
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No stripe down the center of this one... That don't look like a crankbait either...
That's not a hybrid. That's a black nose or what some call a magnolia crappie.Quote:
Originally Posted by Snubbys
Correct, that is a Magnolia and (incorrect) it is a hybrid, we make them up at the North MS Fish Hatchery in Enid.Quote:
Originally Posted by chaunc
I got other methods, the day me and you went out was the maiden voyage of my crank pullin' this year.. that was caught in March long lining..Quote:
Originally Posted by CliffordN
A Criper
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Well, chaunc was partially correct ... the Magnolia Crappie does have a Blacknose parent !! :biggrinQuote:
Originally Posted by Snubbys
I thought the Magnolia Crappie were only in a few small lakes in Mississippi ?? :dono :scratchhead
Down here we call the one with the racing stipe an Arkansas black nose crappie cause that was where they were first reported. These recessive gene crappie are showing up on Lake Travis and we have caught several here on Lake Austin.
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Heck if I know, by certain standards the big 4 are small lakes, lol. That one was caught in a small public lake. I would like to see photos of a true wild bred hybrid if anyone has them to share, I know they are rare, but do exist. My guess is the fish Clifford has in photo is a male black crappie (the dark one on the bottom) and a female black crappie on the top (lighter in color). But who knows bet they both eat the same [emoji23]Quote:
Originally Posted by CrappiePappy
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Been catching black nose crappie in Arkansas for over 30 years. Nothing hybrid about it. They reproduce naturally. Mississippi does cross them but they are a natural occurring color phase in the wild.
Bet they taste as good as the other crappie. Nice fish!
That they do.
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We catch a few black nose even up here in KY and Barkley Lakes ...
Altho I haven't seen any reports of the golden hue color here ...
Rickie
I caught a black nose up here in Illinois last week. Didn't notice anything was different until I was starting to fillet it.
also have some here in nw missouri in a few smaller lakes and some of the farm ponds surrounding the lakes. prob got introduced into the ponds from the lakes. i thought the black nose was just a recessive gene in the black crappie family. didn't realize they were actually a hybrid. what are the a hybrid of. a black and a white? or a white and a black.
Arkansas blacknosed crappie is natural occuring caused by a recessive gene. dhaire and jigflinger addressed this above earlier.
Magnolia crappie is a cross between a white female crappie and a male black nose. Made in a lab, although MS does have natural blacknosed as well. Magnolias like the one in my picture were made for smaller lakes, the fish are not supposed to reproduce. It keeps them from over populating small bodies of water.
And CrappiePappy, as far as I know the MDWFP does not stock the Magnolias in the big flood lakes. Doubt they would in Barnett either, no need in it. I was just using it as an example of the only hybrid I know of. There are natural hybrids, but I've never caught one and probably wouldn't know if I did anyway.. Lol
Sorry CliffordN for getting yoir thread off track. Maybe someone now can explain the lack of coloration in your fish.
Original fish photo is just light colored black crappie is my thoughts , the naturally hybridized crappie I have seen typically have distinctive traits of both white and black crappie . That fish has no white crappie characteristics noticeable in the photo . As far as the old Mohawk ..blacknosed ...racing stripe ...Arkansas...etc etc etc crappie they typically occur naturally in lots of impoundments and are just a color phase . Magnolia and some other hybrid crappie I have seen are hybridized on purpose to slow reproduction from what I have read to regulate numbers of fish and to grow them to super size as well .
Here is one from Lake Austin. https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/201...419ae9e71b.jpg
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With Pepop's lure, of course.
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Here's the best pic I know of that shows a naturally occurring "hybrid" Crappie :
http://i74.photobucket.com/albums/i2...ps1722a967.jpg
Many people catch them, and probably more often than they realize, but just don't recognize them as such.
Even our own KY State Record Crappie had to be genetically tested to prove it wasn't a World Record Black Crappie @ 4lb 14oz in 2005:
http://www.fishin.com/photos/StateRe...ordCrappie.jpg
And it was deemed a naturally occurring hybrid ... so, no World Record, but did qualify as a State Record (since KY does not distinguish between Black/White/Hybrids for state records).
light coloration black crappie. not all will be covered with specks. Just like people, some have more pigmentation and freckles than others