Da Ducer on 1648 G3 from podunkideas.com

I wanted to mount a HDS depth finder on the front of my 1648 G3 Jon Boat and with a few tips from Rickie, ordered a Da Ducer and finally got the Lowrance Elite TI 7 HDS and got everything mounted and I must say, I am really going to enjoy the da ducer on the front of the boat with the transducer mounted up front. I also left the Lowrance HDI 5 on the front and the transducer to it on the trolling motor for now also. For me, this will work like a charm if you're looking to mount a Side Scan depth finder up front. Thanks Rickie for everything and enjoy a few pics.

Thanks Chuck ...

Don't forget ... You can mount an external GPS antenna directly to the VHMW top cap of da ducer apparatus® ...

Let me know if you have questions ...
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Good looking brackets on those seats also ... :biggrin

Rickie

You might also think about mounting the HDI on da ducer apparatus® ...
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Rickie

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Originally Posted by rnvinc

Thanks Chuck ...

Don't forget ... You can mount an external GPS antenna directly to the VHMW top cap of da ducer apparatus® ...

Let me know if you have questions ...
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Good looking brackets on those seats also ... :biggrin

Rickie

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love mine and that's where the antenna is for the 998 I just mounted up front.

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Originally Posted by wannabe fisherman

love mine and that's where the antenna is for the 998 I just mounted up front.

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Got any pix Louis ...??

Rickie

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Originally Posted by rnvinc

You might also think about mounting the HDI on da ducer apparatus® ...
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Rickie

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And there is no interference if running the both depth finders at the same time in shallow water say to 40' deep at the most? I was just going to run the Hook 5 HDI for navigation no better the maps are for Indiana Lakes and run the side scan and down scan off the Elite 7. But,,now you got me thinking of moving the Hook 5 transducer off the trolling motor for sure. I upgraded all 3 depth finders as Lowrance has a patch to their software upgrade for rectifying the lag in their built in gps's and wanted to see how good the upgrade was before springing for a external gps.

Another question,,,how do you squeeze all the attachment heads of the wires into the square channel with transducer wires already inside? Is there a way to take the ends apart or maybe file down the outsides down aliitle? The ends that attach the transducers to the unit is what I am asking?

Run different frequencies on each xducer ...

Rickie

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Originally Posted by cevans

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And there is no interference if running the both depth finders at the same time in shallow water say to 40' deep at the most? I was just going to run the Hook 5 HDI for navigation no better the maps are for Indiana Lakes and run the side scan and down scan off the Elite 7. But,,now you got me thinking of moving the Hook 5 transducer off the trolling motor for sure. I upgraded all 3 depth finders as Lowrance has a patch to their software upgrade for rectifying the lag in their built in gps's and wanted to see how good the upgrade was before springing for a external gps.

Another question,,,how do you squeeze all the attachment heads of the wires into the square channel with transducer wires already inside? Is there a way to take the ends apart or maybe file down the outsides down aliitle? The ends that attach the transducers to the unit is what I am asking?

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Originally Posted by rnvinc

Run different frequencies on each xducer ...

Rickie

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awesome on the diff. frequencies. How did you get all your wires into the square channel. Is there a way to take the end caps off where they screw tight on the back of the depth finders?

Rickie..looking at the OP's first pic w/daducer deployed raises a question for me. If you have sv/si on the apparatus does physical interference/blockage from TM become a consideration? If so how do you correct for that? Realize too that the ducer only has to be in the water, not as deep as TM, but wondered about blocking si sigs such as on the transom with the gas motor. TY

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Originally Posted by cevans

awesome on the diff. frequencies. How did you get all your wires into the square channel. Is there a way to take the end caps off where they screw tight on the back of the depth finders?

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da ducer apparatus® basic-L models have 1" inside diameter square shaft ...
da ducer apparatus® 360 models have 1.25" inside diameter square shaft ...

Most brands cable connectors will thread thru either model shaft ...

Using more than 1 xducer on da ducer apparatus® = one needs to thread the 1st cable thru the square shaft - and that cable will "lie" into one of the 4 inside corners of the square shaft while the 2nd cable collector is threaded thru the square shaft ...

Rickie

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Originally Posted by TeeDee

Rickie..looking at the OP's first pic w/daducer deployed raises a question for me. If you have sv/si on the apparatus does physical interference/blockage from TM become a consideration? If so how do you correct for that? Realize too that the ducer only has to be in the water, not as deep as TM, but wondered about blocking si sigs such as on the transom with the gas motor. TY

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Most da ducer apparatus® application installations have da ducer apparatus® mounted back farther (aft) from the bow point than their TM ...

This allows the side beam to "shoot" behind the TM housing and still shoot under the bow rake of the boat ...

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da ducer apparatus® does not have to be mounted in any particular spot ...

I have customers with da ducer apparatus® mounted off the side ...

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Don A mounted his in front of his TM ...

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I have a couple customers with da ducer apparatus® mounted off the back deck of bass boats (sorry no pix) ...

Cane Pole's Pontoon ...

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Outside the TM mounting ...

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I've customized several to get the customer what they need ...

Rickie

Thanks. Do you still need to have the ducer applied at a particular depth, relative to the TM or not. Guessing if it is fore or aft then not so much. Except aft one would need to just ensure they were below hull. Thinking sv/si here mostly. Mine is currently on the TM. Experiencing some rf that I can't seem to resolve and may go this route. The turning of the TM and the sv/si effect on the screen is very minor to me. But the rf is something I would like to fix. I have a spare-barely been wet--gt52hw that I am going to hang over the side and see how far away I must go to be rid of the rf. Then I will know what way(s) I may have open for install. I am only in a 1436 jon so my front deck is limited with a bow mount and ram mounted Garmin already there. TY

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Originally Posted by rnvinc

Got any pix Louis ...??

Rickie

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no but when it gets good weather again I'll get you a couple and post them

Ok, Rickie talked me into mounting both transducers and after 5 hrs of completely dismantling the trolling motor transducer, and the da ducer, I started all over again squeezing in the 2 trolling motor ends threaded thu as instructed and got the 2 transducers mounted same depth as I run my trolling motor on the da ducer mount. I really like this setup and especially not having to worry about transducer wire breakage with the Hook 5 HDI off the trolling motor. Will take pics tomorrow after the wind lets up as we are having north winds to 40 mph with wind chill of 36 outside and still need to clean the boat and mess up and check everything out before trying all this out. Thanks Rickie for all the answered questions and suggestions!!!:ThumbsUp:cheers2

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Originally Posted by TeeDee

Thanks. Do you still need to have the ducer applied at a particular depth, relative to the TM or not. Guessing if it is fore or aft then not so much. Except aft one would need to just ensure they were below hull. Thinking sv/si here mostly. Mine is currently on the TM. Experiencing some rf that I can't seem to resolve and may go this route. The turning of the TM and the sv/si effect on the screen is very minor to me. But the rf is something I would like to fix. I have a spare-barely been wet--gt52hw that I am going to hang over the side and see how far away I must go to be rid of the rf. Then I will know what way(s) I may have open for install. I am only in a 1436 jon so my front deck is limited with a bow mount and ram mounted Garmin already there. TY

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The xducer just needs to be in the water ...

If the xducer and the TM prop are at the same level - and if the TM is turned 180° away from the xducer = there may be a small amount of xducer movement when the TM prop is pushing water directly at the xducer ...

I run my TM all the way down ... and run my xducer just a little higher ...

Rickie

Looks good Chuck

I really like the Da Ducer and this setup. Rickie, quit making neat stuff! Your making me spend more money! :Rofl

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Originally Posted by cevans

I really like the Da Ducer and this setup. Rickie, quit making neat stuff! Your making me spend more money! :Rofl

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Rickie

Ima lazy type da ducer user.

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Linky no worky for me.

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Originally Posted by TeeDee

Thanks. Do you still need to have the ducer applied at a particular depth, relative to the TM or not. Mine is currently on the TM. Experiencing some rf that I can't seem to resolve and may go this route. The turning of the TM and the sv/si effect on the screen is very minor to me. But the rf is something I would like to fix. I have a spare-barely been wet--gt52hw that I am going to hang over the side and see how far away I must go to be rid of the rf. Then I will know what way(s) I may have open for install. I am only in a 1436 jon so my front deck is limited with a bow mount and ram mounted Garmin already there. TY

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My unit is the second picture Rickie posted, i do not get any rf interference, I'm guessing both trolling motor and da ducer deployed there is about 12"-14" inches in separation with transducer about 6" higher than trolling motor. da ducer has worked out wonderful for me.

good luck

Mine is going to be set about the same way. 12" to 14" away from the trolling motor and the trolling motor is set about 36" deep in the water as I measured it from the top of the trolling motor bracket and will measure depth again tomorrow and will test it tomorrow starting out with the transducers set about the same depth or a alittle higher a inch or two above the height of the motor blade. Dang wind past 2 days has finally laid down tonite but will be about 32 degrees outside in the morning at the crack of dawn with the temps finally hitting mid 60's hopefully. I am sure the fishing will be alittle slow and hit and miss in the morning but want to test and check everything out. Will post results tomorrow nite for you when I get in.

Thank you Rickie, Mike58 and cevans for the data. Very much what I needed. My situation is more similar to cevans in that I have a square bow jon. Only a 1436 that I put a plate on up front. I am most curious: 1). Will I need to go back along the gunwale to establish an aft separation of ducer to motor head? 2). If I stay on the front (preferred) will the beam be interrupted by the TM? I suppose vertical adjustment would/could relieve that. I'm running a 93sv Garmin and I don't know if that matters. Suspect all the beam widths and angles are a bit different. Not wanting to over-think it. Thanks so much. You guys are very helpful.

Try this link. If it works, click picture for video. I ain't got google share figured out yet. Got tired of photobucket nag ads.

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Today, it was windy as all get out, 34 degrees this morning when I launched after couple of days of storms,wind, cold, bright sun and fish on Lake Lemmon had lock jaw, but I did spend 7 hrs fishing caught 7 and only 2 were keepers with all released as I was also fishing muddy water after all the rain. Da ducer worked like a charm and very very happy with the 2 transducers on it. One the Hook 5, I ran sonar and chart, on the SI 7 ran the side scan and down scan and no interference from anything including trolling motor. If I ran sonar from the back of the boat as I have another 5 to drive with, the 2--5's had alittle interference with both set on 200..turn the back sonar off and none. Da Ducer Rocks!! Had the transducer and the trolling motor head about 18-20" deep in the water and no interference from either on front. And was fighting a 2' chop sometimes and da ducer took it like a champ. I like this setup for a Jon boat and really like the addition of Side Scan and picture I get on the lowrance SI 7. Was going to fish tomorrow, but they are calling for 10-15 mph winds gusting to 35 mph and don't think I want to fight it again. Will decide in the morning. Water temp started out at 55 this morning.

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Originally Posted by TeeDee

Thank you Rickie, Mike58 and cevans for the data. Very much what I needed. My situation is more similar to cevans in that I have a square bow jon. Only a 1436 that I put a plate on up front. I am most curious: 1). Will I need to go back along the gunwale to establish an aft separation of ducer to motor head? 2). If I stay on the front (preferred) will the beam be interrupted by the TM? .

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The SI xducer is oriented "behind" the shaft of da ducer apparatus® ... So it may not be blocked by the TM housing (depending on how for forward of the bow the TM is) ...
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Rickie

here's my installation of the DA-DUCER device and a mount for my 998 made by /hi-tec stuff
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After having used the Da Ducer and both depth finders hooked up to the front of the boat with 3rd in the back while running big motor, I have to say, this is the best fishing setup I have ever used for long lining and trolling crank baits and I have been trolling for fish since mid 70's when I started on wall eyes and lake trout in Canada. I found myself looking at the side scan and down scan saying as I saw fish, guessing which rod the fish were going to hit on and 75% of the time was right spot on just like our trolling days on Lake Michigan for Salmon. Awesome setup with the transducers on the front of the boat. WTG Rickie! Love the Da Ducer.

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Originally Posted by cevans

After having used the Da Ducer and both depth finders hooked up to the front of the boat with 3rd in the back while running big motor, I have to say, this is the best fishing setup I have ever used for long lining and trolling crank baits and I have been trolling for fish since mid 70's when I started on wall eyes and lake trout in Canada. I found myself looking at the side scan and down scan saying as I saw fish, guessing which rod the fish were going to hit on and 75% of the time was right spot on just like our trolling days on Lake Michigan for Salmon. Awesome setup with the transducers on the front of the boat. WTG Rickie! Love the Da Ducer.

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Rickie

Got my heading sensor mounted on mine
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I bought one of these(Da Ducer.) did not like it. too clunky. hard to deploy. bolts broke. put a one inch pvc pipe on an old motor guide trolling motor bracket with gas assist cylinders. easy in. easy out. can turn pvc pipe to any direction (poor mans 360). I think "Canepole" used something like this at one time. i liked the fact that i do not have side image on a trolling motor motor(turns too much) and there is no electrical interference when mounted away from electronics and trolling motor. plus is motor guide trooling motor bracket has a breakaway spring systen and pvc gives also.
(no breabing transducer). i broke a transducer on (Da ducer)

Glad you like it. I got one about a month ago and am very happy. I made a mistake at first and put the transducer on "wrong: side of mounting plate. Well. technically it's not wrong it's just that the way I had it the transducer was out front and could get damaged by hitting brush piles, etc. I mounted on back side of plate and feel much better.

I couldn't figure out how to edit my post. What I want to clarify is, the picture I posted needs to be rotated 90 degrees clockwise.