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This is the best info. I have found for release of water for production of electricity. Maybe it will help our fishing by knowing how much current to expect.
We have to remember it is Robert S Kerr Dam that feeds into Ft Gibson!! I had forgotten.
Hydropower Release Schedule
Kerr Dam (owned by GRDA) which is the dam on Hudson is the one that sends water to Gibson. Robert S Kerr Dam( which is Owned by US Army Corps of Engineers) is located south of Sallisaw and it is on the Arkansas River. So the link you have posted is for all Corps of Engineers hydro-power generating plants. I would argue some stuff but can't due to the fact I work for the Corps of Engineers at Ft Gibson power plant and actually operate all 8 power plants for the Corps out of there. I am not allowed to discussion much else. Sorry guys.Quote:
Originally Posted by minnowtime
I always thought the Dam for Hudson was the Markam-Ferry Dam?
You the evil man! Get him! I am kidding of course.;) We (sportsman) just have to accept the fact with flood control, electricity production, water storage and commerce (shipping on the Nav.) We are just lower on the totem pole. I dont like that, but I do like my electricity! So thank you for what you do! We do appreciate it, even tho we get our fishing messed up sometimes. Come to think of it, we wouldn't have a lake to fish in if it weren't for the dams that were built for flood control and power :Doh:Quote:
Originally Posted by crappie_jiggin
All I'm asking that the public to be made aware of what, how and when the Corp of Eng. and GRDA are managing these sites and the information be correct.
Where can we find the website for the Dam that releases water into Ft Gibson? Thanks and I'm not picking on anyone!
GRDA and the USACE don't know a lot of the times. Many variables on when generation is needed. Like someone said, it's not their call.Quote:
Originally Posted by minnowtime
If I remember correctly this is what you want. I believe you need to look at the release column. Someone please correct me if this is wrong.Quote:
Originally Posted by minnowtime
MFDO2: Hudson Lake (tabular)
Why does this website list Robert S Kerr dam address as Locust Grove? GRDA (Grand River Dam Authority)
Kerr Dam / Markham Ferry Dam ( Robert S Kerr Dam in some documents ) regulates Lake Hudson which discharges into the grand river / Fort Gibson lake.
Robert S Kerr Lock and Dam and reservoir is on the Arkansas river southwest of Sallisaw. This is part of the McClellan-Kerr navigation channel.
The generation of Robert S Kerr on the Corp generation site is for the Lock/Dam/Reservoir system, not lake Hudson.
As far as generation schedules, they are estimates at best, based on weather forecasts, market demands, and transmission line availability.
The electrical grid is an hour by hour market, there is no efficient way to store bulk electricity. Often hydro units are used to balance the electrical supply because they can be started much quicker than other generators. The SPP website currently lists wind power as 33% of the market, if the wind dies a large amount of electrical generation has to be added quickly. Another example is a unexpected shutdown of a large coal plant can require at least 500 megawatts (8 hydro units) be generated to replace that power.
Long winded post but it is a complicated system that is designed for flood control, electrical generation, economic development and recreation, unofficially in that order.
I'm not sure why. As far as what I have heard and been told is the dam at Hudson is called Kerr Dam and the one by sallisaw is called Robert S Kerr Dam. I did see on the GRDA site that they have it listed as Robert S Kerr as well. I have spoken to several people who have worked for GRDA and they all call it Kerr Dam. I guess it is what it is.Quote:
Originally Posted by minnowtime
The corps generation schedule can be accurate for the most part unless some deciding factors come into play. It's a long discussion and I'm not at liberal to say. Many factors come into play. Most of the Corps schedules are posted once they know how much power has been sold by the scheduling authority(which is not the Corps). This is usually done by 2 pm the day before. So it gets posted then something happens or comes up and it changes the schedule, but doesn't get corrected on the site. Look at this site it may be a little more accurate than the Corps. Southwestern Power Administration
The Southwestern Power Adm. does not list Oologah or Kerr Dam on Hudson. Forecast can be like the weather Sunny at your house and raining at your Buddy's house across town. But we still watch the weather forecast as some info. is better than none.
Still looking for info on Oologah and Kerr Dam on Lake Hudson!
Oologah does not have hydro generators. This is as close as your going to get for Oologah. Daily Report of Reservoir Conditions. Just click on the lake you want and it will show you any releases that are going through the spillway gates for flood control.
This is the Oologah link I like. OOLO2: Oologah Lake (tabular)
Thanks everyone for your reply. I put the tabular reports for Hudson, Ft Gibson and Oologah in my favorites list. Hopefully by checking the lake level, inflow and downstream reports I'll have fewer surprises went get to he lake.