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Caught this 1.4 lb crappie yesterday in Blood River area on KY Lake.
I've heard other fishermen talk about catching these. Some call it a Black Nose while some call it a White & Black cross.
What's the member's opinion of this crappie?
http://i1320.photobucket.com/albums/...psdrom1zbg.jpg
Here's another pic showing black line from dorsal fin to nose tip.
http://i1320.photobucket.com/albums/...ps4rbwxfhn.jpg
Hi, That is a black nose. They are a hybrid. I see they are starting to grow. They normally have white crappie habits.
Thanks! I also caught 3 male white crappie keepers in the same stakebed as this Black Nose male.
And now a word from our own crappiepappy [emoji16]
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It's a Blacknose .... not a hybrid. A Black/White Crappie hybrid cross wouldn't have a black stripe. It would, however, have 7 dorsal spines ... but would look more like a White Crappie than a Black Crappie.
For instance, our current State Record (which was determined to be a hybrid):
http://www.fishin.com/photos/StateRe...ordCrappie.jpg
You may have actually caught a "hybrid" Crappie, and didn't even notice :
http://www.tnfish.org/FishIdentifica...mondsNegus.jpg
A Blacknose is simply a regular Black Crappie that has a pigment gene that creates the black striping. They occur naturally, and in lakes in at least 13 states from the midwest to the far southeast of the country. They've been stocked in waters in many states.
Thanks CrappiePappy for the ID class and image demonstrating differences in the 3 species!!! That makes sense. This black nose had 7 dorsal fins and no vertical bars.
I'll catch 1-3 blacknose per year at the northern end of KY Lake also ...
Rickie
Only place in the state of KY that I've caught a Blacknose ... was Cedar Creek Lake. But, I've caught a bunch of them over the years at Watts Bar Lake (E. Tenn.) Only Crappie I've ever caught that sometimes jump out of the water on hookset, and pull like they mean it !! I can almost tell before I see the fish, if it's a Blacknose .... just from the fight. Wouldn't hurt my feelings if they were introduced to all the lakes in KY.Quote:
Originally Posted by rnvinc
I've caught one since 1990 but have friends that tell me they catch several yearly here on Barren.
Pappy your my Hero by the way.
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Nah, ain't no hero. In fact, I was one of those people that thought it was a Black/White Hybrid, years ago. Then I started learning the "facts" after a little research ... and joined in on many a discussion on this site, correcting myself & others that thought the same.Quote:
Originally Posted by slabseeker1
I still see that misinformation being passed on, on other sites/forums ... but, I'm not a member, there, so I just let them alone in their ignorance. But, I will, for sure, jump in on discussions about them on this site .... if for no other reason than to keep OUR members from passing on such misinformation.
Pappy,
never thought about the difference in the "fight" of these, but you are right. Those black nose do NOT like to be caught. I've always called them "Arkansas" crappie. I guess because that's what I heard someone on the dock call them. Thanks for the info on the species.
You guys are right about the fight. This black nose made the pole do a little dance and then ran under the boat when I set the hook. He was the only fish that pulled drag that day. Thanks for the comments!!!
We use to fish a farm pond that was stocked with copper nose crappie. Which is what we called them but the people who stocked them told the owner they were copper nose bream. Dunno why or if there was a mix up but ive never saw or heard of a copper nose bream. They grew really fast as well some were pushing 2 lbs in 3-4 yrs. Also heard kdfw and other state agencies stock them for research purposes in area lakes. Easier to keep track of.Quote:
Originally Posted by tnbirdhunter
I was first introduced to them when a life long buddy of mine caught some down at Watts Bar while we were fishing for Smallmouth with jighead/minnow. He called them Arkansas Blacknose. And when I did finally get around to doing some online research about them, the first thing I found was that they were found as a naturally occurring fish in one part of the White River in Arkansas, and many thought that was the first place they were found. Later research showed them to be a naturally occurring fish in at least 13 different states ... and some even claimed as many as 22 states ... and research showed the earliest they had been discovered was in Ohio in 1957. So, maybe they "should" have been known as Buckeye Blacknose :Rofl But, in all likelihood, the first ones "used" for stocking/research purposes came from the White River Arkansas strain. (but that's just a guess on my part)Quote:
Originally Posted by AndyMac
And to "crappy101's" point ... they were used by DNR biologists to stock certain lakes, for the purpose of finding out catch rate & fecundity studies. And used them because they were easily identified as "stocked" fish, as well as being able to tell their fry from other Crappie fry, since their fry have the stripe from birth.
[QUOTE=CrappiePappy;3402129]I was first introduced to them when a life long buddy of mine caught some down at Watts Bar while we were fishing for Smallmouth with jighead/minnow. He called them Arkansas Blacknose. And when I did finally get around to doing some online research about them, the first thing I found was that they were found as a naturally occurring fish in one part of the White River in Arkansas, and many thought that was the first place they were found. Later research showed them to be a naturally occurring fish in at least 13 different states ... and some even claimed as many as 22 states ... and research showed the earliest they had been discovered was in Ohio in 1957. So, maybe they "should" have been known as Buckeye Blacknose
As an Ohio native I will now refer to them as Buckeye Blacknose crappie!