I am getting a lot of line twist when pulling 1/16oz jigs behind the boat at .8 - 1.0 mph. Does anyone use a swivel with longlining 1/16oz jigs or have another solution? My line is 8lb hi viz viscous line. Seems to want to twist a lot.
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I am getting a lot of line twist when pulling 1/16oz jigs behind the boat at .8 - 1.0 mph. Does anyone use a swivel with longlining 1/16oz jigs or have another solution? My line is 8lb hi viz viscous line. Seems to want to twist a lot.
I'm not sure but I would love to see some experts answer
Been long lining for a long time never had an issue. You putting line on reels correctly (right direction).
I don't know if it's causing your problem, but I think you are moving too fast. When I longline I run .03-.05.
Spindle, I think you mean 0.3-0.5mph, don't you ??Quote:
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Originally Posted by CrappiePappy
It's slo go for crappie right. Lol
First, I'd make sure my 'plastics' were on the jighead straight (if you're using plastics).Quote:
Originally Posted by tncrappiebass
If not using plastics, but using weights on the line ... some weights, like the removable pinch on sinkers, can twist/turn.
If not using weights ... maybe the type/shape of your jighead is the culprit.
If none of the above ... and I don't think it's your speed ... then remove the jig & let out all the line on your reels and troll at that speed for several minutes, then reel the line in under tension, put the jigs back on & try again. If you still get line twist ... then :dono what to tell you.
Jigs, by nature of their design, tend not to cause line twist. The line diameter could be causing your jigs to not act accordingly, and start to spin a bit. Suppler lines tend to twist less than stiff ones. Not sure if that is your problem or not.....just throwing it out there. Have you tried braid with a fluorocarbon or mono leader?
And do make sure your plastics are correctly installed on the jigs.
[QUOTE=CrappiePappy;3373292]Spindle, I think you mean 0.3
That's what I meant to say.
I longline at .8 - 2.3mph and never have a problem with line twist at all. Something else is causing the problem.
I always use a small inline ball bearing swivel with any trolling because I most often have a small inline planer board attached. My set up is main line to swivel with a small plastic bead to protect knot then leader to either roadrunner, plain jig head. Or crawler harness. That depends on what species I am after. Line twist is never an issue . I troll from .5 to 2 mph
Line is twisted when you put it on the reel has my vote.
Use nanofil or powerpro superslick..... problem solved.
i do a lot of longlining, and in my experience spinning reels esp. small ones are going to have some line twist after some time. when your putting line on your reels pull the line out periodically and make sure the line doesn't twist. its going to coil a little that's fine but if it twists flip your spool over. i long line with two 1/16th jig heads and my line twist is minimal personally i use 6lbs stren but thats just personal preference. i dont use a swivel but if you wanted to i cant see what it would hurt. just my :twocents.Quote:
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Switch? to braid and you won't have that problem
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Actually, IF ... the fault lies in the jighead or misalignment of the plastic trailer, braid won't necessarily correct that problem. Braid can twist just as easily as mono, if the bait is spinning or rolling over.Quote:
Originally Posted by TxBigRed
Now, IF ... the fault lies in the line, for any of the reasons previously stated, then the limpness of braid could be a factor in preventing the problem.
I troll at 0.9 to 1.2 mph on gps using 45# braid with a snap swivel then a 5' mono leader with double jigs and a small Spro swivel hooked to the snap swivel, never twists. This also gives me a easy way to change pre tied jigs just by unsnaping from the Spro swivel. I keep several colors tied on their leader on a swim tube
I use bait cast reels and never have a problem, even when the drag is set pretty light. Do you have your drag set light enough when you are reeling in a fish the drag is slipping while you are trying reel in the fish? Causing excessive twist? I have seen that before, having the drag set light enough in case of a snag with really light line.
Just a thought.
Line was put on backwards, definitely!
You can't have much line out movin at .3mph or you are fishing in some deep water. At that speed, you are basically spider rigging but moving backwards.
I'm sure the braid still does twist, it just doesn't manifest itself like mono. Never had braid all twisted up in a birds nest like mono.Quote:
Originally Posted by CrappiePappy
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If using spinning reels, try pulling all your line from the reel with nothing on the end. Then reel it in using slight pressure. The twists will come out as you reel it back in. Tie on another jig...ready to go!Quote:
Originally Posted by Gabepeeps
I had horrible issues with twist when I first started and a friend told me to tighten the drag and no more issues.Quote:
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I think I figured it out.
I put my line on carefully on the spinning reels. I think my jig and trailer are on pretty straight. I do leave my drag pretty loose so maybe tightening it up will help as someone mentioned. I think the big problem came from what I caught the week before. I caught 17 catfish between 2lbs and 12 lbs trolling curly tail jigs through some massive balls of baitfish. We all know how much those catfish twist coming in. I caught all those cats in about 4 hours. Each pass I would catch 2 to 3 of them. Was a lot of fun. Probably could have caught them all day. Now I have 17 more catfish in my pond for the grandkids to catch.
Thanks for the help everyone.
I long line with 32 poles off my 27ft Carolina Skiff with 8lb Vicious Hi Vis and 1/16 oz minnow heads with no line twist. I use #4 hooks and 2 inch curly tails that are threaded on STRAIGHT with tail down. My speed is usually around .7 to .8 MPH. Line should be spooled on spinning reels with label facing UP.
Monk
:yikes Holy Moly ...!!!!Quote:
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Rickie
That ain't fishing, that's seigning!!Quote:
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I've found that my lines only twist up if I'm moving from place to place with the big motor over 2mph with lines in the water or when a small fish foul hooks and starts spinning in the water behind the boat. I clip the jighead and then let out more line than I would typically have out when trolling and let it trail behind the boat for a few minutes to untwist. Then just respool under finger tension and it should be good to go.
I myself wouldn't use a ball head jig for longline trolling, instead use an elongated head. They tend to swim thru the water column giving em a more natural appearance. :twocents
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If I lay the spool on ether side the line will twist. Mount the spool on something using screw driver, nail or something else through the hole of spool that lets it spin freely with line coming off the top of spool for spinning reels, this is the best way I have ever found.
Also slipping of the of the drag while reeling will cause line twist.
This little invention has never allowed line twist since I started using it. Take a look.
http://www.cabelas.com/product/Ultim...em/1432827.uts
I just ordered me one of these. I bought another one last year that had a little suction cup thingy that I got at Cabela's that would kinda stick to a smooth surface.worked like this, but pretty cheesy setup.
I also troll at all speeds, this has not caused line twist for me. I always use a loop knot and troll with tube and marabou jigs. Some of the hard body jigs if not hooked right will surely twist. Also trash will also. A old trick I use to get it out is when I break off I let the line drag a few minutes, this will let the twist out
Hey minnowtime, what do you mean by slipping of the drag? you mean turning off the drag or winding WHILE the drag is on?
Plus, these type heads will run deeper when using lighter jig heads as opposed to round. Running (2) 1/16 oz double rig, will run about about the same depth as (2) 1/8 oz round heads with almost same line out, for those days when the fish want a smaller jig. Never have any problem twist with so I dunno bout that one OP.. probably a line issue if I had to guess.Quote:
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I always run my line through a wet wash cloth held in my hand for the desired tension as I spool it.i use nothing but round heads and have no problem with line twist. Sounds like those slimmers was your problem.
I too have a lot of line twist. I've spooled the line on spinning reels label up,label down and rolled it off the spool of line. I use to take the jig off after each trip ,pull out about 100' of line and let it go,you can see it untwisting. I catch a goo d many small fish that twirl when you bring them in and carry folks that don't stop reeling when the drag is slipping. Speed ranges from .8-1.0. I started using a size 10 swivel and it helps, I tie it on about a foot from the jig. Vicious and Wally marshal 4 lb. Attachment 259627 seems like I have more twist on the 12 foot rods
Drag slippage happen when hung up or while landing a fish if you keep reeling. The drag is to let line out while landing a fish and not break the line. Best if you check the drag setting before each fishing trip. Stops line twist and reduces broken lines.
I break line off often when pulling. I ain't got nuf sense to know the line broke. Good side to this is that pulling the line thru the water without lure keeps the twist out. Loose one win one.
I too have problems with line twist, I've tried almost everything already mentioned: one thing that's help with twisting is on my longer rods I've gone to 2000 and 2500 series spinning reels bigger spools and line doesn't seem to twist as bad on the longer spools. Drag being to loose and winding in while the drag is slipping also can cause twist, also trash on your lure pine straw, pieces of grass or leaves will cause major twist also, to remedy this we run the tips (1st eye) in the water on our back rods help keep trash away. This year I've started using small swivels and that seem to be the best help for keeping the twist out and also keep most trash from getting to your jig which also is a good thing. :twocents