I am not new to this panfishing idea by any stretch of the imagination, but I have never heard of a bait pump. Does anyone have a picture of one, and explain to me how the thing works? I'll use anything if it helps put fish on my table.:D
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I am not new to this panfishing idea by any stretch of the imagination, but I have never heard of a bait pump. Does anyone have a picture of one, and explain to me how the thing works? I'll use anything if it helps put fish on my table.:D
its like an oversized syringe without a needle and you smash crappie nibbles in it and "inject" it into things like tubes for scent dispersion that doesn't fall off after a few casts.
go to the Louisiana board and look up slab hunter,he sell's them--- good product
heres a link http://www.thebaitpump.com/
Does it actually help in the saving of Crappie Niblets? To me, it seems easier to stick a niblet on the hook and cast.
its mainly for injecting in tube baits it comes out a paste
sense i bought one i use a lot less niblets the reason is it pack inside the tube their is no waste plus it last a lot longer to catch 22 slabs on one filling is not bad
Did you use crappie niblets with that injector?Quote:
Originally Posted by camo john
I put some nibbles in the pump and inject the nibbles in the tube. It works easy and is NOT made of cheap plastic. I use mine all the time.
Bill
Well, where is a cheap place to buy one. I may end up not liking this thing at all, but if it isn't too much, I won't feel as bad throwing it away if it doesn't work.
mrwillis, you WILL like it!! I only got to use mine one time after I bought it last year, I will use it EVERY time I use tube jigs this year. It is an excellant product and well made, if it was a cheap thing.....remember you get what you pay for!! :D
The price is around $15.00. They are very well made and work great. If you use the crappie nibbles it will make them go much futher than just hooking them on. You won't be throwing it away but if you do I hope it lands in my boat......lol.
http://www.thebaitpump.com/Quote:
Originally Posted by mrwillis
Mailman just brought mine, looks great. The only thing I do not like is no cap over the end-looks like it would dry out easily. I put a 1.5 inch tube on mine.
Hey, that's not a bad idea. Wonder how it would work to dip the end in that Plasti-cote stuff for plyers and other tool handles? think that would form a good cap for the end of that Bait Pump?Quote:
Originally Posted by blankace
Or a tube jig with the tassels cut off should do it...:D
I have a bait pump and it is a well made product...only issue I have with it is using or should I say trying to use it with the micro tubes....larger sized jigs it works great ...any input from people that have one of these will be appreciated...
Here is what I want to try and maybe someone 3else can try it before I can and tell me if it works. I am overseas right now in afghanistan that is why I can't try it. When my younger kids get medicine from the doctor they give me this syrnge looking thing that holds about 5 ml I think it is. It is for putting there liquid medicine in and just putting it in there mouths and squirting it in. It is easier for a small kid then a spoon. Anyways I know the nibbles will fit in one and I am guessing it will hold about 20-30 nibbles at a time. I f someone knows what I am talking about and can give it a try let us know if it works.
I went to the local feed store and bought the largest needle they had (turkey, $2.50) and a 40 cent syringe. This should work great with paste on my small tubes!
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Originally Posted by dr_duff
What you are referring to, is an "oral syringe" ... different from a "shot" - intravenous syringe, in that it has no threads on the nozzle (for attaching the needle hub).
They would probably work fine with paste, but it may be a bit difficult to extrude a "Nibble" thru one. I've got Nibbles, and access to the oral syringes ... so I'll test it for you. I'll get back to you, on the results, by the middle of next week. ...... cp :cool:
No need Pappy. I tried it last year. Does not work. I had an empty syringe from my Kodiak paste and pulled the top out and put about 10 nibbles in it. They would not push thru. Even tried letting the tube set in the sun to heat up too. The bait pump has threads that force the nibbles thru the nozzle when you crank it in. If your syringe has threads, i'd say give it a try. If not, dont waste your nibbles as you wont be able to get them back out. I'll post a picture of the syringe i tried using later.
Here's the syringe. The paste in it is soft and pushes thru very easily, but nibbles wont push thru at all.
http://i41.photobucket.com/albums/e2...n/IMG_0752.jpg
PS. This paste works great in cold water conditions. Nibbles dont ( for me ).
I have used THE BAIT PUMP/////////////////very heavy material,drop it in parking lot and run over it.I think it would still work Well worth the money,YOU WILL BE SATISFIED.
but, I was just going to do the test for the benefit of any doubters ;)Quote:
Originally Posted by chaunc
I even have a "Bait Pistol" ... won it in a Crappie tourney ... never been out of the package :p but, it may see some action "this" year. Got a bottle of Crappie Nibbles (char) that's been riding around in the tackle box, for a couple of years. May have to put them both to work, and see what happens.
Shoot man, I've got so many new things to try, I may not have enough fishing time to use my "favorites" ... LOL!! But, at least this year, I'll have more than every other weekend to even think about going !! Weather permitting, of course :D
You take care, man ................ luck2ya ... cp :cool:
If you know anyone in the medical field have them get you a 30cc or a 60cc syringe and you can make your own, ask them to put a ( neddleless ) tip on the end and you have one.
Crappie Nibbles/Oral Syringe (5ml size) ... tested as promised.Quote:
Originally Posted by crappiepappy
Results :
Wouldn't you know it .... it actually WORKED :eek:
The nibbles were placed into the syringe barrel, about 8 of them, then the plunger was replaced into the barrel. Holding the syringe pointing straight up, so as to allow the air inside the barrel to escape first, I forced the plunger into the barrel until the Nibbles were mashed into the cap end. With a push of the plunger, the Nibbles started extruding from the nozzle. I then proceeded to put the nozzle into the hollow of a 1.5" tube, and filled it with Nibble "paste". Convinced that this experiment could be duplicated, with the same results, I concluded the test as a success ... per se.
It is a little cumbersome, and tedious, to have to use a toothpick to remove the "leftover" Nibble paste from the barrel ... when you want to add more Nibbles. And, you have to insure that there's no air trapped between the Nibbles and the plunger head, before trying to extrude the contents. If you don't get the air out ... the pressure needed, to extrude the Nibbles, is far greater than if there is no air. (that's why I cleared the syringe of all contents, before adding more Nibbles, between tests)
I would also recommend having a "cap" for the syringe, in order to insure that the Nibbles didn't dry out and clog the tip. Or else, remove all contents from the syringe, and return it to the Nibbles jar.
This experiment/test is, in no way, a negative reflection on the Bait Pump, or Bait Pistol .... and was not intended as such. It was only conducted to prove or disprove the idea that a oral syringe "could" be used to extrude Crappie Nibbles into a hollow tube jig body. I can only conclude, from the limited amount of testing done, that it is possible to do so. Take the results at face value ;) ........... luck2ya ... cp :cool:
Excellent results, thanks for sharing this....Good luck fishing! MinnowMan
:D
No pictures. Show us the syringe size you used. Was it plastic like the one i tried? I'm still trying to find a way to get nibbles in my shad lures.
Crappiepappy, Hey would you like to sell that Bait Pistol.....
I had a feeling that was going to be brought up :D ... and yes, I did consider taking pics to document the experiment. I just didn't have any idea that it "would" work, or that it would go so smoothly & quickly ... so I didn't even bother to have my camera handy :oQuote:
Originally Posted by chaunc
I can certainly recreate the experiment, and document the equipment used. I'll do that, later on tonight or tomorrow morning. But, to answer your immediate questions ...
syringe size ? - as stated in the previous post : "Crappie Nibbles/Oral Syringe (5ml size) ... tested as promised." (that's 5ml, or 1tsp liquid capacity)
was it plastic ? - yes, brown/amber (light resistant) plastic
I used the 5ml size, primarily because it has a centered exit tip. I have a 10ml & a 20ml syringe, but both of them have off centered exit tips, and I wasn't sure if they would work as well. I got them just in case the smaller (5ml) syringe wouldn't create enough pressure to extrude the Nibbles ... but, declined to even try them, once the smaller one worked.
All equipment necessary, was a 5ml plastic oral syringe - Nibbles - toothpick.
I even have a small jar of silver metalflake, which I will be using in the next phase of experimentation ... to see if adding it to the Nibbles, will create a problem with extrusion, or not. Stay tuned ... the game is still afoot :p
..... cp :cool:
The ingredients ...... Nibbles - oral syringe - toothpick
http://i2.photobucket.com/albums/y42...s-test0002.jpg
Nibbles rolled into a ball & placed inside syringe ...
http://i2.photobucket.com/albums/y42...s-test0003.jpg
Syringe plunger compressed to expel air and push Nibbles to exit tip ...
http://i2.photobucket.com/albums/y42...s-test0004.jpg
Plunger compressed - Nibble extrusion begins ...
http://i2.photobucket.com/albums/y42...s-test0005.jpg
Nibble extrusion extended ....
http://i2.photobucket.com/albums/y42...s-test0006.jpg
Nibble extrusion removed from tip - core removal begun with toothpick
http://i2.photobucket.com/albums/y42...s-test0007.jpg
Core removal complete ...
http://i2.photobucket.com/albums/y42...s-test0008.jpg
BPS tube jig placed on syringe tip - to show that it fits
http://i2.photobucket.com/albums/y42...s-test0009.jpg
Note:
Chartreuse dot, at tip of BPS tube, is Nibble extrusion leaking thru hook hole in head of tube .... I used a previously rigged tube, for the experiment, and the jighead's retainer (collar spike) and hook had left a hole in the head of the tube.
That concludes this phase of the test. The addition of metalflake to the Nibbles, will be phase 2 ... to see if the metal flakes interfere with the extrusion process. ........... cp
crappiepappy
Great experiment....Now, where did you git dem oral syringes....DemoMan
I got them from "work" ;) (I work in a Hospital)Quote:
Originally Posted by DemolitionMan
I'm sure one can get them from a medical supply store, Veterinarian, or on-line ... and possibly even at a pet store. You just want to be sure and get one for "ORAL" use ... and not for injection use. ...... cp :cool:
I bought one and just got it today. I was surprised and the quality and craftsmanship in it. Says made in the USA and if everything in the USA was made like this, we would not be losing things to foreign countries. I think the only way you would ever have to replace it is if you loose it. Solid construction and works great to inject tubes. No forcing it, just turn the nob.
Thanks Pap. I think i just needed to shorten the one i tried using. I'll keep using my bait pump for now.
i left a jar out in the rain and they turned to paste. shoud work through injector easily.
sorry
Thanks for seeing if that would work. I am looking forward to see if the second part of the expirement will work with the silver glitter.
So would you recommend this as a cheaper way or would you rather spend the $15 dollars for the Bait Pump. I am not knocking the bait pump I was just thinking that this would be cheaper and you could put two or three of the oral syringes in the boat for a lot cheaper than a bait pump.
I'll be conducting that Phase 2 experiment, later on this week.Quote:
Originally Posted by dr_duff
I'm not "recommending" anything ... just reporting my findings. I was as skeptical as the next guy, about it even working. I had the materials necessary, to give it a go, and put the debate to rest ... so I did.
As I've said before ... I don't own a Bait Pump, and I'm not making comparisons to one. These experiments are simply to show that it is, or is not, feasible to use a oral medication syringe to extrude Crappie Nibbles into a hollow tube jig body. The lifespan of the syringe, as in durability - will it dry out and become brittle - how long it will continue to work/last - etc ... is not being taken into consideration.
.......cp :cool: