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I'm having problems getting the color to match the hot pink from bass pro.Ive tried a white base coat then the hot pink but it's about the same shade as just using the hot pink. This is Pro tec Hot pink. What paint is everyone using
I'm using a fluorescent pink I get from TJ's tackle that seems to be a little brighter than the Pro Tec. Plus I mix a little 200% clear from Rosie's powder coating with it. Not trying to be smart but I bet you put a plastic on it and the crappie won't care.
Your probably correct. But believe it or not they seem to prefer the brighter pink in the lake I fish. I thought Tj's uses Protec paint. How much clear do I add to say 2 oz
I have Pro-Tec pink, but also have some light pink also. Not sure what Bass Pro uses though. I think TJ uses mostly Pro-Tec which is CSI.
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Here is how I do it, I start with the amount that I use in my cup on my fluid bed, maybe a oz or less, then start with a 1/4 teaspoon let it mix real good then paint a couple and cure. I'm looking to gain depth to the look and a higher gloss. It's like cooking and using seasonings, just add a little at a time until it looks good to you. I also get me a medical bottle or something else to put that mix in to keep it seperate. When you get it where you want it write down the mix, like 2 tablespoons of pink and 1 teaspoon of clear. That way you can repeat it the next time you mix a batch. It will change how a color like pink looks. Don't get carried away with the clear. I have found the more clear I add the more it will stick to and kind of glob up on the forceps I use to heat my jig. Not a problem because I know what to expect. And I'm making the assumption you have a fluid bed. If not it's really hard to get the clear and color to mix good. I have found that fooling with powder paint is intriguing when you start trying to change color's and tints. But it's fun the more you do it. Also with the clear you can really stretch your paint if your painting a lot of one color and buying by the small bottle.Quote:
Originally Posted by Joshralabama12
Thanks for the info. I'll have to order some clear
Is that the "Glass Clear 200%" ? Thanks, Pop
Yes.Quote:
Originally Posted by pop
Have you tried adding a little fl. orange to your pink?
I use the same Clear and mostly to get powder paint that is more thick to fluff easier. Some paint just is too hard to get the air to flow through very well, but adding a little Clear will fix that right up. There are a few colors that you have to be careful with adding Clear, like Chrome is not one I add to and there are a couple more that don't like the outcome. Some guys make their paint 50/50, but I never add that much personally as there is no need to add that much IMHO and am sure since some do that they will tell you they like it better that way. Like most things in this hobby, it's all personal what and how you do it.
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Unfortunately, every order "can" be slightly different. If the place your order from (say TJ's) purchased 10lbs of powder, it would be pretty safe to say that you will get the same shade today as you did yesterday. That being said, if they are going through a lot of paint, you may not get that same shade next week or next month.
I think at last count I had someplace in the neighborhood of 40 or 50 colors. I go through a ton of paint with my business and use some more than others. As and example, my last batch of bright green was really nice and light. This new batch is a darker shade and is noticably different. Orange, pink, even pearl will have a slightly different hue depending on when you order it.
So, the hot pink you have today may be a different shade than the hot pink you get next week. It may also be differnet than the hot pink I have or that someone else has. Even if we all purchased it from the same place. If you are looking to get a brighter or different shade than what you have, try mixing a little bit of other colors in it to lighten or darken it. Don't mix up the whole can. I use small little cups for testing like this.
Just so you know before hand, paint is not even close to the only thing this will happen with. Chenille will change from time to time. I have 2 shades of Copenhagen Blue in here right now. It use to be more of a just medium Blue, but at some point a couple years back it changed to a really bright medium Blue and actually is much better now, but both worked well! Also it doesn't stop there as feathers are maybe the worst as some guy have to change brands of dye at times because the state of California bans some other substance that is in the dye and once they change brands for sure it will make a new shade at least until they work through the change. Also know these guys are not just dying a oz or two, but more like pounds of feathers and at times you may love a shade you get, but the next time it's not the same and not much you can do about it unless you want to buy a lot! However if you buy enough to last your life time it will not change for you, lol? I know guys can not buy a life time of materials as they may need a house just for their materials, lol!Quote:
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Oh an I have and still do at times order a special color, but you have to buy so much that I sell off a lot of my extra.
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Thanks for all of the info guys .
Skip, I didn't even think about that but you are correct! Anything involving color and dye is going to have different pigment and hue factors. For me, I notice it because I work with it every day. For the customer, they don't so much notice it. Not unelss I send them 50 in one shade and 50 in another!Quote:
Originally Posted by skiptomylu
LOL, absolutely! I have been buying the same stuff and colors for 10 to 12 years now and believe me I see it all the time. Then some kind of new guy will call me and say last time I got xyz it looked like this and this time I got the same exact thing and it's a different color so what is the deal. Then I also have to tell them everything matters as far as who is doing the dye work and what brand of dye as well what they are trying to do. At some point they have to understand if they absolutely fall in love with a shade of some color, they better get a load of it before it changes maybe in the next month or even next week, lol!Quote:
Originally Posted by wicklundrh
Brand also matters big time. I am positive the FL Chartreuse from WAPSI is not the same shade as the same color from Hareline!
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Nice
Check out the shades of Hot Pink at Rosy's powder
Rosey's Powder Coating | Rosey's Powder Coating
https://scontent-ord1-1.xx.fbcdn.net...4e&oe=593540C1The top jig has a white base coat with a hot pink topcoat. The lower jig has a hot pink base coat with a candy pink topcoat. All are Pro-Tec. I like the bottom jig the best myself. Little late on this thread but hope it helps you out a little bit.
Nice color
Starting to wonder if the paint job on the Bass Pro jig is done with viynal paint??
I have found most commercial jigs are. Either dipped or sprayed. That's why most you find have the eye painted closed.Quote:
Originally Posted by Fatman
Many that are powder paint are not only closed, they are not cured well if at all. Vinyl doesn't do that though and actually is a little tougher coating that Powder, but it's time consuming since they have to dry for a while!Quote:
Originally Posted by cray
I have some close on me during the cure even though I use my trusty tooth pick thing to open after the dip, but some I guess have too much paint and close back up in the cure. For these I use a bodkin that has a thinner needle than most and I heat it and stick it through and wiggle from both sides to open it well and try to clean off any sharp edges from the paint. It's a bit frustrating, but since I have been doing that for I guess 12 years or so, it works for me even if it does slow down my tying a bit.
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Like the color
So I figured out my problem . Before I put my jigs in the oven to cure there pretty close to the color I want. But after baking them @ 350 for 20 min they turn to a bubble gum color. Anything less than 20 min they don't hold up to the drop test and they chip. I've got a thermometer to verify temp. Not sure which route to approach now
I cook all my jig head colors except Pearl at 390 to 400 for 15 minutes! Been doing that for 12 years and still works. Have talked to CSI many times about time and temps for curing. Have posted this many time including in the sticky post. Also have said that the longer you bake them the darker it gets!Quote:
Originally Posted by Joshralabama12
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