Going to have to replace a couple of batteries for 24 volt TM. What do yall us? See a 31 series AGM at Sams for 179. Seems pretty pricey. Just want the most bang for the buck especially since my Grizzly order came in today.:biggrinThanks.
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Going to have to replace a couple of batteries for 24 volt TM. What do yall us? See a 31 series AGM at Sams for 179. Seems pretty pricey. Just want the most bang for the buck especially since my Grizzly order came in today.:biggrinThanks.
I have had good luck with deka batteries
You will get every answer known to man with this question. Some swear by the cheapest battery on the market......some say buy the best there is. You can read on many forums and find what some call junk others praise them as the best batteries in the world. Sorry I couldn't be more helpful, but batteries....like trailer tires....are a crap shoot. I would say that is just my opinion but doing the research says it is not opinion...but fact. A retired striper guide of note here used nothing but the cheapest Walmart marine batteries for years and loved them.....another friend of mine buys nothing but Optima Blue Tops.
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I'm in the same market but I'm going to have to buy 3 going to 36 v .the 2 that I'm replacing is optima they will be 6 yrs old come June but they will still run a 18' express 6 hours trolling at 1.0 mph plus. But they r about 275.00 each plus .I have looked at the Duracell at SAMs only 18 month replacement. not sure which way I'm going yet . Walmart Batterys are 100 bucks each 2 yr free replacement but not agm so ????
I agree with the above posts. I've had interstates last over 4years, and used em hard. Right now I'm using a pair of 29 series I got at wally for under $230 if memory serves. I haven't killed em down in a day yet after trolling nonstop for 6hrs. All the input I can offer.
I use Wally World batteries and have been happy with them. Will probably go to better batteries when I replace them in my walleye boat as they are hard to get to. Getting old and can't wrestle with them like I use to.
Walmart web site shows the $100 group 29 deep cycle as out of stock.(at least around here)
Best to go to the store to check stock.Quote:
Originally Posted by hdforester
Some times (MOST) times the stock report does not reflect the current stock.
i found that out by going to the store (local) that internet indicated no stock and the battery shelving was slam full of batteries, including the one that I was interested in buying.
Don't go by the warranty listed on the web site, check the warranty on the side of the battery and be sure to keep your receipt, or best to scan the receipt to keep a clear copy. The store receipts will fade over time and may not be readable when you need it.
For the most part, a year or two or three warranty is not much different if you take care of the battery. At least 90% of battery warranty failures are going to happen within a few months of putting it in service, and you don't see many of those.
I have done some research recently and have concluded that wet cells are a better way to go. If you want to discharge your batteries below the 50 percent recommended level then you reduce the life of the battery from 1000 cycles to 300 at 90 percent discharge. It doesn't matter if you use an expensive AGM or a cheap wet cell the effect of deep cycling is the same. If you don't use them at all and maintain the recommended 1.26 voltage during storage they will still only last 4 to 7 years. If you use your battery twice a week for 4 years that is 208 cycles or 5.7 years to reach 300 cycles. The only advantage of AGM is that they don't leak, they are heavier and easier to destroy by a bad charging procedures and typically requires a charger designed for AGM batteries.
You can buy a 90 amp hour wet cell for under $90 dollars, the same capacity AGM battery is around $240. Unless you fish every day and use two large batteries that will never be discharged below 50 percent then you should think of batteries as disposable items. To me buying one cheap battery and fulling discharging it and replacing it every three years makes sense.
Wet cells require maintenance, the water has to be checked, but even for a lazy person like me that is a small extra burden compared to the hassle of charging it in the first place. The real problem is that even if you buy an expensive battery you cannot be sure you will not ruin it if you drive your boat hard on choppy water and a plate comes lose or you accidentally overcharge it or let it run dead. Things can and do go wrong with batteries even if you are careful.
I would like to know if anyone has experience with a wet cell leaking because it was bounced around in rough water? That is a problem I have never experienced but it could be a deciding factor for some people. Let me know what you think of my arguments because they are only theoretical with no extensive experience to back them up.
I replaced two Interstate group 27's that were at the end of their useful life with Duracell wet cell group 31's group from Sam's Club. I haven't had an issue with heavy use where a typical day of fishing includes around 6 hours of constant trolling on the Terrova.
This place is a mile from my house. Marine Batteries | Boat Batteries – Standard Battery Anyone have any experience with Standard Battery?
here's a thought for you, remember there are a LOT of battery NAMES out there and only FEW battery MAKERS.
As stated above it doesn't matter if you go wet cell unless you wanted to mount batteries on their sides. I've used a lot of Agm batteries in car audio and I am partial to them for that reason. Deka and XS Power are some of my favorite but they are expensive!
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Google search "LEAD-ACID BATTERY MANUFACTURERS AND BRAND NAMES LIST 2017" to research the brands you're looking at. You'd be surprised what a price markup a different sticker from the same company will bring on store shelves.
Johnson Controls, East Penn Manufacturing, Delphi and Exide make up a huge chunk of marine batteries in the US.
Trojan makes their own-which are heavier golf cart batteries but many members wear by them for deep cycle trolling applications if you can accommodate the added weight.
I've used the Duracell AGM batteries and have nothing but good things to say. Size 31 series. The cold cranking amps, reserve capacity and amp hours are higher than most other major brands and that is what I am looking for in a trolling motor battery. As others have said, they are made by the same companies and rebranded. Duracell is in fact made by Deka!
Have I had issues with wet cells... YES. I have had them leak, caps come off, acid everywhere. You name it. Yes they do require mantenance and worst of all, you can overcharge them causing issues that can never recovered. AGM batteries on the other hand do not discharge like a wet cell, they don't overcharge, and most chargers sold today will charge both wet cell and AGM. I leave my boat plugged in 24/7, with wet cell batteries I would be doing more harm than good. With AM, my charger goes in to a conditioning cycle (which ATM batteries need).
I run an 18ft deep V tournament walleye boat. I'm on my trolling motor 8 to 10 hours plus per day without issues on group size 31 agm batteries in a 24v TM. I cannot do that with wet cell batteries with the same confidence week in and week out.
Risk reward I guess. Really depends on how hard you use them and how much you want to spend given the usage. I've also had great luck with the cabelas AGM series group size 30 batteries. They usually run a sale a couple times a year and you can get them for around 135 bucks. I prefer the Duracell however because the cranking amps, reserve capacity, and amp hours is higher.
Considering how expensive our hobby is I agree the cost difference should not be the major concern.Quote:
Originally Posted by wicklundrh
AGM batteries will give a longer life span than a wet cell battery, but will not stand up as well to hot temperatures and high discharge load. That is why how you use your battery makes a difference. If you pull your battery to change it then one battery that you fully discharge instead of two that you discharge to 50 percent makes sense. If you have a 24 volt system that is a mute point.
For sure battery acid everywhere is an issue. If there is a risk that a battery box will be overturned I would not go wet cell. I'm pretty careful myself and never raced around in a boat.
Currently I'm only interested in using trolling motors as the only means of propulsion for small boats. So my application does not apply to most people.
Just put in 2 new Trojan 1275 31 series deep cycle flooded. It was tough getting them in I had to turn them on there side to get them between the gas tank and compartment hole especially weighing 85# each. I wanted the Sam's Duracell AGM's but I can get the Trojans for $150 and they have a reserve capacity of 280 minutes @ 25 amps. I guess we will see how they work when trolling all day.
Anyone use these? The gentleman that owns the golf cart center told me he sells them to a lot of people for trolling batteries.
I try to buy where ever the warranty is best/easiest to return. If they last as long as the warranty says...they did their job. Then buy more. Lemons in every make and model at some point.
These are good batteries. I think they are a little better than Wmarts.
Super Start Marine 31DCM - Battery | O'Reilly Auto Parts
I pull cranks and have 2 Trojan 1275s they will eat the walmart batteries aliveQuote:
Originally Posted by TN crappie hunter
Trolled for over 8 hrs and only down to 70 percent I can add a inverter and fan still have more than enough power
You'd expect they would since normal retail is 2 to 3 times what the Everstart is. If everybody could get the 1275 for $150, there would be no other batteries on the market.Quote:
Originally Posted by theygotaeat
The most important spec when comparing deep-cycle batteries is weight. You can't fudge the weight of a battery or add anything that increases the weight as much as lead to save money. Weight is always a reliable indicator of higher capacity. The Trojan weighs about 23 pounds more than the Everstart. You'd expect that 23 extra pounds to give you about 75 more minutes RC and that's pretty well what you get.
The Duracell Ultra SLIGC12V at Batteries Plus is probably the very same battery as the Trojan. Might be more convenient for some people to find those.
That's a Deka battery. Only 185 minute RC compared to 205 for the Everstart and half the warranty.Quote:
Originally Posted by FIN
My comparison was cost per quality. I've had wmart batteries with short lives. Same with tires. The Goodyear tire you get from walmart might not be good as the same tire from a Tire shop. Others have noticed this also. Wmart and Sams purchase in such large bulk that sometimes lemons will slip through. Its all a gamble. I'd rather have a battery that last than a warranty that says it will be replaced. That's why I started buying mine at O"Reily. Better warranty doesn't specifically mean its a better product. It might mean the a company as big as Wmart is capable of taking more chance. That's just my opinion. I don't troll as others do so my needs are different My 24v motor guide will always get 2-3 days fishing on 2 deep cycle batteries.Quote:
Originally Posted by CatFan
Fin
I paid 155 for mineQuote:
Originally Posted by CatFan
I went through 4 wallys in just over 2 years trolling cranks.
Auto zone AGM batteries are made in the same plant as the optima's. Definitely a price break between the two, and I have not had any issue with them in the past.
The walmart batteries used to be solid batteries up till about 6 or 7 years ago and then they went to crap. Stay away....
Remember, you get out what you put into them......
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