How many of you use this line ? Thoughts/experiences about it ?
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How many of you use this line ? Thoughts/experiences about it ?
I use Nanofil all the time in 6lb test. It has no stretch. I also use a leader 3ft long with a swivel. The leader will break instead of the main line when you get hung up. The Nanofil will cut into your hands if your not really careful when you get hung. It is some really tough line.
We use it on clear water lakes and stream's for crappie,bream,trout,smallmouth.takes a little getting use to is more like fly line on a fly rod actually floats on the water.The crappie cannot stand a crappie jig just floating in front of their face.We also fish crowded lakes and streams.Catch fish fishing behind others.We like the clear mist.In 8 lb test 2lb equivalent to mono,10 lb test eq to 4 lb mono.We use no leader.No a braid not mono line.We love fly fishing on our trout waters so this line fit us like a glove.Braid eats up line guides on your rod's Nano fill does not.The number one thing is no knots when fish are biting.Still use mono Mr Crappie in 2 and 4 lb camo.But use Nano fill 99% of the time.$19.00 for a spool still have and use the 1st spool we bought 6 years ago try that with any other line.Not a pro not my sponsor.Hated Berkley mono line said I would never use it lost a 100,000 dollar Bass on Bull shoals blamed Berkely line because I needed to change line and the bait store was out of Stren.Ouch cost me. Love the Nano Fill.Cabelas has their on brand about the same price.Really like it "cabelas Nano-fill.
Coach, send Jigflinger a PM. He fishes a lot like you do and has used it since it came out. Has all his reels loaded with it. Only thing I have heard negative about it is tying the special knots to keep it from slipping.
When it first came out myself...my son...and nephew used it exclusively for over a year....pretty much 5 days a week. I have used 2#....1#.....5#....6#. I don't think they make 1# test anymore. The 2# test was perfect for casting a 1/64 Trout Magnet....casting distance is unreal with the line. I always use a fluro leader. The line has no abrasion resistance at all. Keep in mind I didn't just use this just for crappie fishing but for all my fishing......catching smallmouth...Gills.....white bass....KY bass, and trout. I fish a lot of deep rocky reservoirs. The sensitivity is great...as with any braid. Line manageability is excellent. I still use it from time to time. As has been stated the line has no stretch. One of the reasons I quit using it so much was when fishing for shell crackers in a mossy area. When the fish would get wrapped up in moss since there was no stretch in the line the 2# test would break as I tried to pull it all back to me. Using mono in same situation I could get the fish back to me because it would stretch allowing me to slowly pull the fish over the moss. I have a love hate relationship with the line now. Casting...sensitivity....line manageability are great.....using it with or without leader in rocky reservoirs is asking for a lot of trouble. If you tie direct to lure...hook...jig, you need to use a double Palomar knot.....there are others that will work but a single Palomar will not.
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I don't care to fish braid of any kind for crappies but I use nanofil when i fish for perch in water that is forty or more feet deep. The no stretch is needed for feeling the light bites that deep. It outfishes mono greatly at that depth.
I tried some to try and gain some casting distance, but I couldn't handle it. It doesn't have any stretch or shock resistance. Those actually might be good qualities, but I've been setting hooks all of my life and can't seem to break the habit. With no stretch and the fine points on the little jigs used for bream, the hook will set just with tension. But I kept reacting to the strikes and, after leaving a few hooks in fish, decided I wasn't up to changing my ways and reverted back to mono. It did cast farther, and I liked the visibility of the white color.
I bought two rolls, one 1# and the other 2#. As someone said above the knots are a pain in the tuchus. The other problem I had (note past tense) was that it would slip on the spool of my reels. I would be turning the handle and I would notice the line was not coming in. The line was slipping on the reel as the bail went around. I paid over $40 for those two spools of line. The only positive about it is that you can cast a 1/64th oz jig across the pond with it.
LOL I tried flora-carbon and thought it cast terrible . Just hate throwing money away . I was told that nanofil is so sensitive you can feel a fish thinking about eating your jig . That being said many Bass master classics were won on stren original ,clear blue fluorescent . I don't even fish tournaments so I wonder if it is worth the money ?
I have 5 crappie rigs now that are filled with braid & a fluorocarbon leader. After having tried Nanofil, I would never recommend it, in the light test ratings which I prefer for crappie. Namely the 2# & 4# tests. I've used Nanofil for two full seasons (about 3 years ago) on these 5 rigs and was very hopeful for the outcome. However, after loosing many jigs and fish; and after trying many different knots; I've taken it off all my rigs now. And there are many other crappie fishermen and bass fishermen, who have this same complaint.
Instead I now use 2# Fireline Crystal exclusively, with a 3' - 4' section of 4# test fluorocarbon for a leader. I join the two with the Alberto knot and will never go back. This represents a great combination with lasting durability, sensitivity and castablility. I am fishing rather open water however, with few if any brush piles, or bottom structure to cause me hang up problems. If you check out our postings in the New England Forum below, you will see just how effective this combination has been for us.
As far if it is worth it I would say if that is what you want to use it is worth it. I have lost count of the crappie and Gills I have caught with it. Using a JDM rod....NanoFil.....tungsten jig head......the sensitivity is off the charts with that setup. But I have become tired of using leaders unless I have to have them....such as trout fishing. I also am not as agile with tying knots anymore. Having said that it still has a place on one of my reels.
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This is where braid loses me. I hate leaders.Quote:
Originally Posted by Alphahawk
I'd probably fly fish more if it weren't for the dang leader.
Never used the Nanofil and from what I've read I'll stick with what works for me . I've tried some braid and didn't care for it . Both are too expensive for something I feel needs to be replaced often .
For distance casting small jigs I've settled on 2# PLine original. For everyday fishing with float and jig , and small hardbaits , I use 4# Silver Thread AN40 , which is not much bigger in diameter than the 2# PLine .
I've just recently bought a bulk spool of 4# Green fluorescent PLine I'm trying , mainly because it's easier to see , which makes it easier to tie knots . I'm using it mainly for small soft plastics (3" worms) and Beetlespins . and do far it's working out for me . Gillchaser
Not sure I understand what you mean by "Both are too expensive for something I feel needs to be replaced often"? I've had Fireline on several of my rigs now for years. Same line. I just replace the leaders once each season. That's one characteristic that you should like about braids. For $20.00 a spool and two or three seasons of use, I'd say that's pretty frugal. No other lines (beside braids) can say that.Quote:
Originally Posted by gillchaser999
Yeah it will last a long time. I still have one reel spooled up with the 1# test and it has lasted since it came out...what 5....6 years ago? Used a reel with 2# test for several years that caught thousands of fish....the only thing I would do is flip the spool of line every so often. Pretty long lasting stuff. I change out 2# test mono every week when I am fishing 3 or more days a week. I know that is not necessary but I have a 20,000 yard spool of mono so I am going to use it. I know the first time I ever tried it I went to fish for trout below Normandy dam and was casting a 1/64 ounce Trout Magnet into the river. The river is not wide there but with mono I might cast it out a little past half way across....first cast with NanoFil I went "coast to coast".....LOL. Cast it into the trees on other side of river.Quote:
Originally Posted by Crestliner08
Regards
Got braid on some bass reels been on there nearly 18 years. Still good as the day I put it on.
love the stuff myself.i use 6lb only because the the lesser weights are too small for me to knot.i use it on steep dropoffs and swim a road runner with it.very little line resistance.i use a whippy cheap composite ultra light and the hook set is just a lift.have had the same line on one reel for 3 years.100s of crappies.i hooked an enormous carp in the tail in some deep trees last spring.thought i had a big cat on,after about 15 minutes or so he broke off,the hook broke not the line.i fish it aroung docks boat houses rocks etc,i tie directly using a cinch knot and 2 or 3 overhand knots to lock it.
IF you're going to use braid, or any other line product that has little to no stretch, and you just can't help yourself from "setting the hook" ... just loosen the drag to where it slips when you do; not a whole lot, but enough to keep the line (or rod tip) from breaking under the strain. You will still have imparted enough power to punch the hook into the fish, but not enough to exceed the breaking point of the line.
I usually pre-set mine at the beginning of the season. I tie off the tag end to something that won't move, then pull the rod up until it gets a good load on it. Then I loosen the drag until the line slips, then tighten it back just a touch. Then I will actually "set the hook" ... eyes closed so I don't slack off the hookset when I "see" the rod bend ... and the drag usually slips just like I want it to do. I'm doing this with mono line, copoly line, or braid (even though I normally don't set the hook on the rod with braid, but just keep reeling and sweep the rod back about a foot) ... simply because I'm one of those that sets the hook with the same speed/power, regardless of what rod power/action or line test I'm using.
And if you use braid type lines, put on some old mono line as backing, tie the "braid" to that backing line and finish filling up the reel spool. This will keep the braid from "spinning around" on the reel spool. It also allows you to fill several reels from one small spool of line, rather than filling the whole reel spool of just one or two reels.
Great line with no line stretch. Have used it for years and don't intend to change. Only downside is poor abrasion resistance. Power Pro super slick a good second choice. A san diago jam knot has never come untied for me and is not that hard to tie with a little practice. Double Palomar through a small jig eye..... not!
A double Palomar knots works well IF you make sure the lines aren't crossed in the jig eye. Crossed line in the eye almost gaurantees a broken knot on the first bite. The San Diego Jam knot works great with 4# test.
When tying nan-o-fil knots you must cinch the knot slowly. Cinching it hard and fast creates excess friction heat, because it is so slick, and will sometimes compromise the knot. Also the crossed lines in the eye also applies to mono.
When tying nano-fill lines.what works for us is a knot against a knot.A Fireman's knot.LOL.Or" lock knot" First tie a knot in the end of the line run through hook eye,Nose ring,ect twist 8 times run the tag end with knot through loop in line pull slowly,slowly as line tighten's up to hook eye. The strongest knot out their bar none.When spooling on reel "spinning reel or baitcaster put a few wraps of mono backing to keep from spinning around spool or a piece of "duck tape" around spool.Hope this help's.Don't use nano-fill you will be hooked.
I started using nano last year and now it's on every reel I have. It is a must for for my dock shooting rigs.
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you said you tie the flouro to braid with an alberto knot. i use st croix panfish and avid x rods. they have micro guides. will the knot you use go through those small guides smoothly. i've tried the double uni-knot, and the blood knot they both hit the quides pretty good when going through.
I've had nanofil on one of my spinning reels for about 4 years in the 10lb test. I originally bought it for the casting distance for a trip to the beach. It out casts everything I've ever used. Brought the same reel full of the same line on just about every trip since then bluegill and redear fishing. The white line color doesn't seem to faze the fish a bit, and the sensitivity is just unreal. It will take some getting used to with watching your knots and casting it. It's stiff- almost like dental floss. Once you figure it out tho, it's awesome!
Okay, I gave Nanofil a shot. Spooled it on two spinning reels, fished with it for three trips and have to tell you it is probably the worst line I have ever used. I am sure it has its purpose, but for me fishing shallow water in SE Louisiana. I fished it using a cork, using jighead and plastic tight lined, tried a little topwater and small spinner baits. It cast a mile, but it just does not work. Maybe it has to much memory but it was always tangled up in the reel. I'm going back to 6# mono...What mono, not sure, but guess you can't go wrong with Stren....
you said you tie the flouro to braid with an alberto knot. i use st croix panfish and avid x rods. they have micro guides. will the knot you use go through those small guides smoothly. i've tried the double uni-knot, and the blood knot they both hit the quides pretty good when going through.[/QUOTE]Quote:
Originally Posted by murdok
Try the FG knot. Slimmest knot I know of.
Here is the FG knot
https://www.saltstrong.com/articles/...e-the-fg-knot/
in my experience all of the braid/superlines,the bail should closed manually.i do this anyway as my first reels were hand me down mitchells with broken or failing bails.todays auto return to top bails can hang the very light super lines.i dont use them for bait/bobber rigs.usually for jigs/roadrunners in deeper water.also you can way up the test as 6lb nano might be close to 2lb mono in dia.stren now has a similar less expensive product i will be trying soonQuote:
Originally Posted by Osnola
I give it a good try also fishing Canada two years ago, I admit I am not much of a superline guy, pulled it off after two days and replaced it with 6# Sufix mono, pretty much stick with that or Trilene...
What is nanofil? I've been under a rock.
Got some 2lb Nanofil in the mail this week and couldn't wait to try it. I couldn't believe the casting distance. My usual casing distances were effortless with this new line, and sensitivity has to be experienced. Held up to a 3 1/2lb catfish nicely. I'll own more of this. Might not be for everyone in every situation but I'll have it on one of mine from now on. Thrashing fish broke the line at the knot twice and I can't blame the line. I'll be trying other knots in the near future.
One line I would like to mention for your consideration is Dam Tectan line. I have only found it at Fishusa. It is the thinnest diameter mono that I have seen. Their 6.6 lb test is only.007" thick, where Stren and Trilene are both .008" in 4 lb. test. It is in metric so the pounds are conversions. I have tried the 2 up to the 6 and would recommend the 4 to 6 for ultralight. I like it so well that I have purchased 5,000 meter spools in 4 and 6 . It is the limpest, thinnest and best casting mono on the market. I tried nanofil 3 or 4 years ago and it was okay. I still have the 4 lb.on a reel that I fish small crankbaits on. The small spools and the large spools both have ratings 4.5 or over. The only drawback is if you are one that really cranks down on your knots you may go through the small dia. A palomar would probably be good but that's not one I am very good at. I am not afilliated with Dam or Fishusa. I just really like this line !
It is a "prestretched" line like Stren Magnathin. It is good line, though.Quote:
Originally Posted by grubdunker
for some reason the palomar knot will not stick in my head, I imagine because I used the other knot almost exclusively all my life...I did find the double trilene knot works for Power Pro red, just double the line and tie the knot as usual...
good luck guys and gals..