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He is looking for (new to him boat) and running in to a lot of Evinrude motors. I have never owned a Evinrude, so I know nothing to help him with on them. What is some of the experience of the board ? Good, bad, certain models to be aware of, horsepower that not suggested to get, basically anything that you can share with me and him to help in deciding. I only have had Honda, Mercury and now Yamaha and I like all of them.
Thanks in advance for all info
maachuu aka Larry
I don't know about the big ones, but I have a 15 hp Evinrude that my Grandfather bought new in 1965. Still cranks on first pull. Replaced gears in foot once about 30 years ago due to a duck hunting mishap. Other than that, impellor and plugs every few years just because...........I bet the little thing has 2000 hours on it! It has been a Stone Pony!
Have a 7.5 1979 evinrude.........best motor I ever had. Dont use it much now, but still cranks on the first pull. We used to use it a lot, other than maintenance, it has never been in the shop.
They are pretty popular on Kentucky lake on a lot of the big bass boats.
I bought a 03 Lowe with a 03 Evinrude 75hp last summer. Don't have many hours on it but was running a little rough when I bought it. Changed plugs and can of Seafoam and is running like a champ. Very happy so far.
Got a 2015 30 hp etec and love it! It has a lot of features and my favorite is the cruise control and the ability to adjust rpms and use it for trolling crankbaits I can dial it Down to 1.0-3.5
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I'm scared to death of the original DFI evinrudes, the original dfi s are what sunk OMC. The ETEC came next when bombardier bought omc out of bankruptcy. Big improvement but the earliest versions had weak lower units later model etecs were pretty reliable. Now I'm talking mid range and up to 250 hps. The new g2 is supposed to be a beast. Lots of new features like digital throttle controls, computer controlled break in etc. said to have low end torque to beat em all out of the hole. Still not quite as fast as merc. In 250 hp it's almost 5k more that the standard merc 250 pro xs. This is all based on reading and here say. I've never turned a key on any of them other than a 25 hp Johnson I owned for
3 years which was a good motor.
Wannabe...
Stay away, far far away!!!! Nuff said!!!!! Take a look at how many certified Evinrude mechanics there are out there, there a few and far between. The last two years in a row Kelly and I have fished out of my old rig because his newer model Ranger Fisherman had a piece of junk 250 Etec on it. He hit a stump in Shelbyville and tore it off the transom, actually the mount broke, bolts were still in the transom and his problems were solved. Only buy a used boat with a Etec on it if you have room in your budget to repower with a good motor.
All personal opinion but we have been let down two springs in a row by a 30k piece of crap.
What sizes and Year models are the engines he's looking at?
I've quit selling the ETEC's TWICE!!! Nobody near Memphis sells them anymore. They break. Total boomerangs.
The older models were good engines. DO NOT buy a Fitche, or an Intruder. Fitche was a loser for OMC and the Intruder has Optical ignition system. The Intruder was only made for 3 or so years before they went back to a looper ignition system. Johnson called their version the Fast Strike. They did run good though. The optical ignition can be frustrating to work on. The Intruder and Fast Strike were built from 92-96 I think. The 2 stroke carb models were good engines but gas hogs. The older small engines were bomb proof. 6-9.9-15-25-35-40-50hp's etc. Most of those have been worn slap out by now.
One more note. The early Johnson 4 stroke engines were made by Suzuki and are great engines. I think they also built a few Evinrudes for them also.
I ran Johnsons in the 70s-early 80s on my 1st 2 Skeeters. Basically same as Evinrude. Other than the piston rings breaking and scoring the cylinders, I never had much trouble. Of course, if that happened you were pretty much dead in the water and broke in the bank account. I switched to Yamaha on my last Skeeter Starfire in 84 and never looked back. Went with Suzuki on my latest ride and love it.
You ended all of your troubles when you did that. Unless you do like Wannabe and run it without oil. [emoji23][emoji23][emoji23]Quote:
Originally Posted by mrdux
If you set it up for long periods of time (which I know you won't) with untreated ethanol in it, you WILL need a high pressure fuel pump in 8-12 years, but all brands of engines are that way. [emoji4]
I've sold over 500 Suzuki engines since I've been in business and NEVER had a mechanical warranty claim. The only warranty issue I've ever seen was with our Yankee buddy Wilbur. That was an EPA caused a issue. They had a new mapping programmed computer which the EPA forced them to change in mid season and Suzuki had mistakenly installed an older version map sensor in it. It was during an EPA forced transition period. They swapped sensors under warranty and problem solved. It was a pain in Bill's rear getting that figured out tho. [emoji23][emoji23]
thanks to all for your input, greatly appreciated. Bill the motor most likely will be in the 2000's but not new or close, not any 90 models he says
If its an Etec don't walk away, RUN VERY FAST!!!!!
Bill there is not a trip that goes by that I don't have one or more folks ask about my Suzuki and why I chose it over others. You know me-- that can start a 20 minutes conversation. I am seeing lots more Suzukis up here on fishing boats and tons of new tri-toons with them.Quote:
Originally Posted by BigRiverMarine
Buy what you can service or get serviced . My mechanic only wants to work on Yamaha, tohatsu and Mercury . I was told if I bought johnson or evinrude (etec) to go somewhere else . He has nothing to worry about .:biggrin
I run what my boat manufactures package with but if they package with Suzuki that's what I recommend. In my honest opinion, Suzuki is "The Best" engine in the market. They just don't break. They cost less because they don't advertise as much as the bigger engine companies do. Faster, Much quieter, oil bathed time chain instead of a belt, 6 yr warranty that you Won't Use, more fuel efficient with their Lean Burn technology, more displacement on most models, lighter on most models, etc. You just can't beat em for ANY price.Quote:
Originally Posted by mrdux
I'll bet you $100 your wrong. I'll bring my boat to you and you install a 250 SS on it and I'll guaranty you I'll have at least 1 warranty claim in 6 years. If not, I'll publicly admit it and you can keep the $100.Quote:
Originally Posted by BigRiverMarine
Wannabe...
Shhhh....y'all keep quiet or he will catch on.
To be a warranty claim, you must use oil in it. [emoji23][emoji23][emoji23][emoji23][emoji4]Quote:
Originally Posted by Wannabe...
That Suzuki DF250SS is a baaaad cat!!!
I didn't see anything about any $$ changing hands. I would take a deal like that any day.Quote:
Originally Posted by BigRiverMarine
Me 2!!!Quote:
Originally Posted by mrdux
Anyone can screw up anything. But I have owned 3 Suzuki's, 2 was ran commercial. As we were using them commercial fishing 7 days per week 350 days per year. Never an issue.
I own a 2008 Evinrude Etec now. Great engine, but injectors are with programming $300. per injector.. In 9 years I have had 3 injectors put in. First one was under warranty. Last 2 in 2016 was on me. Was the reason the messed up Etec's? NO it was my, I should have mounted the external filter water separator I had bought 5 years ago. Engine sat for almost 2 years and only used 2 times. And had that stinking Whiskey gas in it.:deadhorse I'm looking at a new engine again. And if I buy this spring. Its going to be a Etec. They run great, get the boat out of the hole faster then the same size engine in 4 strokes. Way less weight then most other engines. Plus Etec has 10 years warranty now until the End of March I think it is. That's hard to pass up. And I have 3 dealers within an hour of me.
If you buy in injected engine add the filter. And most times it will take care of the injectors.
Again I know people that can tear up a steel plate with a powder puff . I for one would never allow them to run anything I own. Because they beat it to death, then cry when it does not work.
Etec's are as good as most or and better then others. But if it had not been for the $1700. for a tiller handle on a Suzuki in 2008. I would have had a Suzuki again.
Thanks for the info Shiloh, I appreciate you taking time to type this
thanks again
maachuu