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MEGA IMAGING
BRING FISHING INTO FOCUS
Look closely. You've never seen anything like new MEGA Imaging™, Delivering nearly 3X the output of standard Side Imaging®, this groundbreaking technology takes fishfinding into the megahertz frequency for the very first time. It's indisputably the clearest, sharpest sonar image ever-brought to you by the undisputed leader.
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What will the HELIX 10 set someone back?
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Originally Posted by John Doe
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What's funny is that Humminbird is all about the Chirp now, just this past spring the Humminbird reps doing the seminars at Grizzly were saying that Chirp really was not a big deal but yet here it is. Think Garmin had proved that wrong, just wasn't a big deal in the Humminbird line.
Wonder if it will help enhance 360 images as well?
Understood - didn't realize that.
There is no info (as of yet) to indicate 360 will have CHIRP capability ...Quote:
Originally Posted by Rees Guide
All info released so far CHIRP imaging requires a completely new style xducer ...
(360 is basically SI imaging = with rotating SI piezoes) ...
We are posting pertinent info as soon as it's released and verified ...
Rickie
Thanks Ricky, my 360 has basically replaced my SI, all I use now.
I am curious how much of the enhanced sharpness and clarity is from the chirped imaging and how much is from the increased frequency. Looks pretty awesome either way.
Some of the images I saw were at a fixed 1200 Khz and looked very good ..... It may be a little of both, but I think it is mostly the higher (mega) frequency ......The chirping may also help increase the range.
It will be interesting to see if people really get the kind of detail we have seen in these demo shots. I keep thinking about the difference between 455 and 800. Yeah you get more detail with 800, but its not like a different picture just a little crisper.
It seems like the new transducer may be the star of the show, dedicated DI and all.
Dedicated DI in the same SI housing is most likely the number one wish list item HB users have asked for ever since Lowrance released LSS 1 SI/DI in Nov 2010 ...Quote:
Originally Posted by OrangeAgent
*2005 HB releases SI ...
*2010 November Lowrance releases SI/DI ...
*2011 January HB releases blended DI in software update ...
*2011 ~November HB releases dedicated DI units ...
Rickie
Surely we'll see some legal bickering over this one....
I run 360/2D alot.I really like that combo.But I'm not sure how a helix would handle that combo.which unit are you running your 360 on?Quote:
Originally Posted by Rees Guide
I'm curious also. From the pictires that I'm seeing on internet.Scanning different frequencies doesn't seem like it's making any difference. Just seems to me that,DSP,better processor,with the ability to send more energy out into the water along with higher frequencies is what's making the difference. Fixed or scanning same results. (Anyone got any thoughts on this)Quote:
Originally Posted by OrangeAgent
If I had one of these units.first thing I would do.Would be to scan out as far as I could,with fixed frequency ,then scan again with all channels sweeping to compare. (Not really sure that I could find anything interesting to scan tho):yikes:biggrinQuote:
Originally Posted by BobB
1200kHz vs 800kHz should show increased detail as similar to 800kHz vs 455kHz ...Quote:
Originally Posted by kosmo
CHIRP in itself will help with signal to noise ratio of the returning sound pulse ... this lower noise ratio allows more energy to be put into the water ... which will collect more data (detail) - with less noise - at increased range ...
The Mega SI is advertised at 125ft ... this would indicate the 1200kHz CHIRP sweep frequency to get that much range with that high a frequency ...
http://i477.photobucket.com/albums/r...ps1qohtbmo.png
I would venture to guess fixed frequency 1200kHz might have an effective SI Range of 60-90ft ... I'm sure we will eventually see images at 1200kHz fixed if these Mega units allow adjusting the sweep to a single frequency like the present HELIX 12 CHIRP or ONIX CHIRP ...
And of course new processing will help all the factors involved ...
Rickie
Here's shots of what appears to be the same bridge.The range is set different.one shot appears to be fixed frequency and the other is set to sweep 100 frequencies.http://i826.photobucket.com/albums/z...psc9byari1.png..http://i826.photobucket.com/albums/z...psnuuwynmg.jpg.Quote:
Originally Posted by rnvinc
Need opinions. Do you feel the 2" screen size difference of the 10 to the 12 is worth the price difference? I have a 898 with 7" screen so both are an upgrade.
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That's a very good example of how much difference the range setting makes.
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Originally Posted by kosmo
I personally would go with at least the 10 ..... Especially if you are doing split screen views it is much better to have a bigger screen.Quote:
Originally Posted by JTMavs
Will these G2N's communicate with the 858ci HD thru Ethernet?Quote:
Originally Posted by BobB
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No one knows 100% sure yet. My guess is that there will at the very least be waypoint sharing ..... It is doubtful that the new transducer would be able to be shared .... but it may be possible to share 2D if not chirping.
We'll know more when people start getting them installed and who knows what software updates will come out. The xx8 series is probably nearing the end of it's updates, however.
Waypoint sharing is what I am hoping for. I know map sharing is a ways off. Thanks!
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Would be nice if they would do the map sharing and scroll back
Boy you hit that on the head!!!Quote:
Originally Posted by BobB
Wonder how long before we don't need Ethernet cables? All blue tooth or wifi?
So less is more now, with more power? This kind of goes against the 300FT bragging argument. I agree, and have always agreed on HB and LOW, the less you scan, the better it is.
Bob,are you talking about scrolling back on 2d/si and di?I've never used that option.I no I have it,,but i never use it.Quote:
Originally Posted by BobB
I have a helix 9 and wish i had sprung for a 10. The extra inch would help and so would some more resolution.
Now the question is for the new buyer, get a gen 1 at a screaming price or get the latest greatest?
Yes.....I would use it quite a bit when scanning for new stuff. Sometimes it's kind of hard to drive and mark everything when looking for brush or under water laydowns. Also, when you move the cursor to mark a waypoint, you stop the scrolling and sometimes miss things because the boat is still moving.Quote:
Originally Posted by kosmo
You can accomplish the scroll back by recording and playing back, but a little more trouble to do that.
Bob,I see what your saying,but scroll back is already available. (Imo)...I like what hummibird appears to be doing.There making a quality unit,that the average person can afford and also making the Onix,with all that extra stuff, that many people don't need. (There giving quality jobs to people,here in the USA while still being competitive with companies abroad)Quote:
Originally Posted by BobB
That right there is what always tips the scale their way for me.Quote:
Originally Posted by kosmo
I always try my best to buy American. Sometimes it is impossible, like buying a TV. Even with American companies, I take it to the extreme sometimes and my wife laughs or gets mad at me. I won't set foot in a Target or Home Depot.
I am planning to buy a Helix 10 SI MEGA soon. I have a Helix 5 (sonar only) at the console and a 859 HD DI at the front of the boat. If it were you, where would you mount the MEGA? Someone told me the way to go is the console so you can mark structure while covering a lot of water. But I think it would also be good to have it where you spend most the time while on the water.
With the new mega for me without a doubt, on the front with the dedicated di and si when I'm looking for a particular structure I can see if it is on left or right . I also spend a lot more time at the front than at the console .
Console. DI views below 1-2mph do me no good. At idle speed they're amazing. I find SI useful upfront while trolling 1mph or less. Really helps me stay in creek channels or on channel ledgesQuote:
Originally Posted by John Doe
Console for me with you having a 859 DI upfront. I fish a lot of different lakes and a lot of new water. With it at the console you can cover water fast to check waypoints you have for fish and also for new structure and cover. I can run 4-5 mph and still get an acceptable image on my 999SI at the console, then TM out and fish the structure with 958 or my 360. I would love to have the new Helix Mega 10 at my console .... but I will have to wait a while on that. Just my $.02
That sucks. I just bought a Helix 10 in September. I can't afford another unit right now.
The CHIRP that Humminbird introduced for its 2016 units was ONLY 2D CHIRP. What we said was that it would give you better 2D imaging, not drastically better, but better indeed. I believe we also pointed out that 2D CHRIP was still not as good of imaging as DI from the same unit- I stand by this still. The G2 Humminbird units will not only have 2D CHIRP, but also DI CHIRP, and SI CHIRP. I'm still learning all the details at this time. Come back again this year and we'll go through it at the seminars!Quote:
Originally Posted by Rees Guide