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Just did a cold engine compression test on my Yamaha F50 ,2002,
Results were frightening
Cylinder 1 55
2. 56
3. 55
4. 63
Added oil to cylinders
1 64
2. 56
3. 60
4. 66
Should be 110-120?
Symptoms, mostly hard to start
Easier to start out of water
Weak hole shot
Runs well once going
Ideas ?
Thanks
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If it's a 2 stroke I'm thinking rings
4 stroke valves
Did you have all spark plugs out during tests?
Was the battery fully Charged?
We're the intake ports open and Clear?
Doesn't sound good
4 stroke
Plugs out
Forgot to open throttle plates
Battery good
Intake not sure
Will redo today with warmed up motor, WOT?
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you been using non ethanol fuel? Treating your fuel?
for anyone that runs a yamaha 4 stroke engine, or any engine for that matter, i HIGHLY recommend buying a bottle of "yamaha ringfree" fuel additive. its pricey, but that bottle will last you a very long time. It will save your engine longterm.
Be sure the choke is open and throttle plates are open.
It may be a build up of carbon on the valve or valve seats.
I'm not sure if I'd recommend it but I've seen mechanics put a small amount of automatic trans fluid in the cylinder to free up stuck rings if that's the problem.
If the compression doesn't come up once it's warmed up it may be time for a professional opinion.
It may be cheaper to replace rather than repair.
Thanks PeteQuote:
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I put in sea foam
Will add ring free too
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Seafoam is great for a quick clean, but its actually recommended you not use seafoam for the newer 4 stroke engines.
Kind of strange that all cylinders are low. Usually just one or two go bad. Any chance the tester is faulty???
Yeah, I would try another gauge even if the one you are using is new.Quote:
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It's made in China
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I would suspect the gauge also, especially since it's all cylinders.
take it to the shop and have them plug it up for a diagnostic. amazing what computers will tell you these days.
Had my good buddy do a routine service this summer on my boat. Lucky for me he has the computer program to plug up and get the diagnostic for Yamaha engines. after plugging it up and turning it on, i got an error message saying "thermostat stuck in on position" causing my motor to burn cold. what does that mean? I dont know. But if it was not identified, it would have caused a catastrophic engine issue several months or even years down the road.
Spend the little extra cash and get that done and be done with it.
My 2002 my not have the computer link, will see
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could you post a picture of the gauge ?Quote:
Originally Posted by brettw
[QUOTE=brettw;3308435]Just did a cold engine compression test on my Yamaha F50 ,2002,
Results were frightening
Cylinder 1 55
2. 56
3. 55
4. 63
Added oil to cylinders
1 64
2. 56
3. 60
4. 66
Should be 110-120?
Symptoms, mostly hard to start
Easier to start out of water
Weak hole shot
Runs well once going
Ideas ?
Thanks
Sounds worn out to me. Just because the compression is so close to each other. I would think the oil would had gotten you higher.
Have the valves been adjusted? Should be about every 100 hrs according to manual.
If you are close to Lake Wylie I have a Mac Tool compression tester I can check it for you if needed.
How many hrs do you think is on the engine?
Also has it been using any oil lately ?. If it were a 2 stroke, which it is not the first thing I would check is the exhaust to see if it is stopped up.
However if it is using oil there is still the possibility of the exhaust being stopped up.
I just not sure how the exhaust would run the compression down. Just saying.
Also. Has the timing belt been change, if has it run right since?
motor wouldnt start with those numbers...at least not with out ether, I would verify the gauge works properly, then recheck with throttle plates open.
[QUOTE=Poorman;3308646]Valve adjustment is a good ideaQuote:
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No idea of the hours on motor
Not using oil
Timing belt has not been changed
Timing may need adjustment
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Ordered some ringfreeQuote:
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Thanks to everyone that chimed in on this.
I warmed up the motor, WOT, rechecked it today
All 4 read between 115 &125
Thanks again, now I know how to do it, plus I'll start adding ring free slowly to the system
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Mix the Ring Free exactly as it says.....do not guess at it.Quote:
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