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Ok so I'm fishing tomorrow with my boss, he is an artificial jig fishing fanatic and kicked my butt all over the last time I went with him. I use Minnows and that's all. His boat, his rules , no minnows, no nibbles, no scent. Last time out with him he caught 27 I caught 3. No joke, and it was exceedingly embarrassing.
Conditions are clear water, crappie at 11-12 ft, and go.
Help me baby Jesus!
Sounds like a great learning opportunity. I would soak it in and learn his techniques. Nothing wrong with being a grasshopper.
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And dig in his tackle box when he isn't looking!! LOL Good luck.
IT is better to keep your job than to lose it by kicking his butt fishing. Just do what he does and I believe he just might share some tips and techniques on life as well as fishing.
Try to copy his presentation technique down to a knat's behind! Is he "counting down" his jigs before starting the retrieve? How fast is he reeling in? Does he jig his rod tip during the retrieve. What color/style bait is he using. Copy everything. Good Luck! :)
I believe fishing should be fun. Catching is never guaranteed. I just enjoy being on the water. Sounds like a great opportunity for sound fellowship, and learn some new techniques.
I had a similar experience when I started Crappie fishing with a friend who only used jigs. I did OK when we trolled(only one rod back then, held in your hand.) But casting to docks and piers he killed me.
The two hardest things I had to learn was to reel really slow and watch the line. 2/3 of the hits I had retrieving the jig I never felt a thing, but the line sagged just a hair. I felt silly setting the hook on nothing, but more times than not a crappie had picked up the jig and was swimming with it and the line twitched ever so slightly.
I fish now with a friend who just kills me single pole jigging over brush and I know it is because I am missing the strikes.
I have fished with a fellow a couple of times that puts it on me everytime. While it was embarrassing at first, I learned much from him. I also stopped taking it as a defeat, because I just know there is no way I am as good as he is. I am ok with that, especially since every time I have fished with him I felt as if I improved and I know a learned some things. Soak it in. You will be a better fisherman as a result in the long run.
SIcrappie are you casting or verticle jigging ? Does he put you on the cover or fish it out before you reach it ? Makes a big difference when you have someone wanting you to catch fish or just trying to catch them all .:fish
You are only as good a your competition. I would rather fish with someone who is better than me those but wiping make you better. Like the great foghorn leghorn said pay attention boy. Just try to learn for someone how is a better fishermen.
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Man, all of the responses listed hit the nail on the head. Ask questions, pay attention and
don't hesitate to beg a little for help. If he is as good as you say, then he"ll probably
think more of you for asking. In the meantime.......
Tight Lines - Dave
It is true with most things but... "You will miss every fish you do not set the hook on." Had a partner years ago when I used to green carp fish that would wait and wait and wait to set the hook. I asked him what is he is waiting on and he said to make sure the fish has it. I told him that fish do not have hands. Stick the fish.
you can use every technic in the book/
if your not in the right depth your not
catching... plane and simple,,,,,
cm
The first time we went out the only major difference in my setup and his was line. I thought he was nuts but he has professed time and time again the line he is using is the biggest part. This time out I had the same line, rod and a different reel. Like the first time out he provided the jigs. Saturday morning we caught exactly the same number of keepers and I had even a few more under 9 inches than he. I'm not trying to toot a horn and say I kicked his butt, but I had serious crappie fishing depression since the first time out and this overall was an enlightening experience for me. I was exhausted when I came home and was falling asleep watching the new Warcraft movie on DVD, I literally caught myself setting the hook a few times while drifting off to sleep in the chair. I had a great day of jig fishing and I'm hooked on it!
This old guy knows our lake pretty good and he took me to places he and his crappie buddies have names for, like finger, cochran, small rock, flat rock etc, and I ate it up like a kid in a candy store. He has no secrets and when he tells me why is, really is, I'm a firm believer now!
now the hard part will be maintaining your integrity, and keeping those spots to yourself. .
in very clear water line can make a difference, at times. it can also make a big difference in relating to death, action and speed. that mite have been the biggest part.
never leave out scent! that can make the difference in a look and a hook, some days! thats just purist'bs.
I have a friend that is a fishing guide. I go on practice trips with him from time to time and he always kicks my butt. What I learned from him is tiny details make the difference. He has one spot that the larger line diameter you use the less you will get bit. I used 4lb while I had on 8lb. He told me in advance but I thought I knew what I was doing. He caught outfished me 4 to 1. He also taught me how to fish shallow brush during the spawn. He picks it apart like a surgeon while I was just pitching and flipping at random. He taught me how to pick a piece of cover apart before you move on. Pay attention to the small details and you will catch on quickly.
I assume you are fishing straight down with the jigs in brushpiles. Make sure you are up front next to him fishing same general area where the brush is. Make sure the jig is lowered to the exact same depth. And, if it is like it was for me two weeks ago, if I didn't hold that jig as still as possible and not jig it around, I would not catch anything. Hard to do for an ex green carp guy like me but it was the only way to get those fish to bite. We caught a good mess of them and won a small tournament.
Sounds like you might be getting being brother-in-lawed :biggrin That means fishing from the back of the boat while the guy in the front fishes everything first and knows the good spots. I really am just kidding I would just watch his presentation and use what jig you have confidence in once you establish a pattern you may be catching more than him LOL have fun and if you have to get right over his front shoulder and get about ear to ear with him stick your jig where ever he sticks his.Now sometimes this doesn't work if not I hope you can swim :biggrin Good fishing to you sir!!!
Pay attention!!! to every detail!!! Offer to pay his gas or at least half.Make him a sandwich something to drink.,buy his breakfast/lunch .You want to be invited to go again.Pay attention!!,Pay attention to every detail!! Have fun it is called fishing,not catching,It is not a tournament,it is not competition it is learning.It is easier for me to teach a kid to fish than an adult .Because the kid's pay attention to every detail.Things I do out of habit.Pay attention!pay attention!Good fishing.