Wondering if anyone on here has used the elite single rod holder? Going to pull the trigger on 8 single rod holders soon, needing some advice!... looks like a great design.
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Wondering if anyone on here has used the elite single rod holder? Going to pull the trigger on 8 single rod holders soon, needing some advice!... looks like a great design.
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Have you seen the video on their website advertising them? The first thing I noticed was the guy had to use two hands to get the butt of the pole out every time he caught a fish.....not sure if it was the pole or the holder but it was getting hung up each time. Might cause you to lose a lot of good fish, just my initial impression. I really like the looks of the widow maker rod holders
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I think he was comparing another brand of rod holder if it's the same video I'm thinking of... I do like the widow maker but not sure if they can't keep them in stock or there was a issue with the design?... everywhere I look they are out of stock
I have a eight pack of the elite rod holders I love them. I have NO trouble getting my rods out of them when I get a strike. They are very well built and dependable. The only draw back I have found is it takes some getting used to adjusting them but when you get them where you want them they can't be beat. Oh and one other thing I get a lot of compliments on how good they look
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Call Meatgetter. He can probably get you some C&C WidowMakers. Nothing out there can compare to them.
If you look on line at what most of the Pros use you will see they use C&C Widow Maker or Driftmaster individual rod holders. I prefer Driftmasters because they are very simple to adjust on fly by just pushing them forward or pulling them back. also you might consider a manufacturer with a proven track record of success that will have parts available and also on Driftmasters if you need a part say a nut or screw gets lost ( In water lol) you can always get the parts at your local hardware store for quick repairs.
Just curious can you long line and pull cranks from them Steve off the front. I had thought of single pole holders at one time but was Leary due I like to do all kinds fishing off front boat.
I have fished with the Capps and coleman and only complaint I have is every time I would get rod out for fish I would have to readjust it when put back into holder to keep them level. This was in a friends boat. Could have been the way they were set idk.
I ordered a couple that slide in my versa track to use pulling cranks an catfishing. They do take alittle getting use to on getting the screws set how you want the angle but once that's done you have a tank of a rod holder. Very heavy duty built. I plan on ordering at least a couple more.
Cachalot,
do you mean the up and down movement of the rod tip is tough to get right because of the way locking mechanism works? or just takes some getting used to learning how to lock them... saw they offer a HD version with the thicker bar as well.
thx
Capps and Coleman Black Widows by TITE-LOC in my opinion is the BEST AROUND! !!!!Quote:
Originally Posted by BSMITTY
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The Capps and Coleman Widowmakers are primarily for the hardcore dedicated spider-rigger and I think they can be called the "gold standard" in that respect. They can also be used for power trolling and longlining in front but I would not recommend them for pulling cranks.....get a set of black widows for that or do like we do and mount some "fish-on" holders on the rails in back. Our C&C's are set so that they don't have to be readjusted most of the time after taking a rod out but occasionally we will put enough pressure on it to require a readjustment....that is not a problem and takes less than 5 seconds. Our rodholders stay put wherever we move them and setting the rodtip the correct distance off the water is not a problem.....we do it automatically without thinking when we put the rod back into the holder. Adjustments are infinite and literally smooth as glass with these holders and take mere seconds. We have even pulled the rodholders back far enough to keep the jigs out of the water and put the boat on plane in order to move short distances on a fairly calm day and have not had a problem doing that. Meatgetter can show you the trick welds that make these holders the best out there. FYI, The holders shown in the pics have screw-in bases and I have always been leery of them from buying a set like that ten years ago. They had a tendency to "unscrew" on one side of the boat in anything more than a moderate wind and were a constant nightmare. Also, I am not saying the C&C's absolutely CAN'T be used for cranks, I just know that we would have to tighten up the ball considerably from the way we have them set if we were to do that but I think it would certainly be possible in a pinch. If I did pull cranks off the front a whole lot I would probably use a different setup. I hope this makes sense and doesn't sound confusing.....Quote:
Originally Posted by arkansasbowhunter
Steve thanks for an unbiased review and clearing up the usefulness of the rod holders. Just what I wanted to know. That's the great thing is over time new stuff keeps being made and evolving. Just look at the rods we now use. Always appreciated!
BSMITTY, the locking mechanism is what I am talking about. Like I said once you get it locked in they will not move I pull crankbait s with them
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J.W., I thought you also might be interested to know that we don't position our rodholders straight up......they are more like a 40-45 degree forward angle so that the butt end of the rods are at the very edge or even hanging over the cap of the boat. This does two things.....it gives us much more space up front and keeps us from constantly hitting the rod holders with our knees and it also puts the baits even further away from the boat, which is quite desirable especially when the fish are spooky. The C&C's are rock solid in this position whereas a lightweight central pylon supporting the weight of the poles at that extreme forward angle might have a tendency to be "bouncy" and thus decrease the advantage of even having a single rod system.
I'm sold on the C&C's!... Now if I could find somewhere to get ahold of some?... Grizzly and titelock are out of stock! Thank you everyone for the great info!
I can get u some in a few weeks Tite-Loc will have them back in production in a couple weeks they are making a few changes that us pro staff have recommended to make them even better that what they all ready are !!!!Quote:
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There were modifications that needed to be made to the original ones that will not be needed on these newest ones! I paid over 200 dollars just to have the mods made at a local metal working shop on my original set and these will no longer be necessary. It took a little bit of time to work the kinks out to make them perfect! Jerry will treat you right on a brand new set and they will be ready to roll when you get them!
Hey Steve what mods did you make? If I get my rod holders any more out in front of me I am gonna need a stretch to lengthen my short fat rump lol.
What is the the new ability of the holders gonna have old ones didn't. Jerry has always done me good And wouldn't hesitate to buy from him. He has loaned me rods in past before I have bought them.
Jerry wanna lone me a new single rod holder hahahha. Just kidding I know that isn't possible.
There were a couple of tiny spot welds that were critical to making sure they stayed put and were stable. I had my black ones welded and then touched up so that they aren't noticeable. The new models should be good to go right out of the box.
Not sure if they are spot welding yet?? I did visit with the president of Tite-Loc at the championship this past weekend and they will in the future but that is a easy fix !!!!Quote:
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JW, the top adjustment on these holders is for getting the distance you need towards or away from you not to adjust the rod tips, as the ball mount does that for you without tools. You just push or pull the holder until the tip is the right distance you like off of the water. Like I said, NO TOOLS NEEDED!!!!! You can go from a 1/4 oz weighted rig to a 3 oz weighted rig with a simple push/pull adjustment for the Rod tip out of the water or you can run multiple weight sizes at the same time and keep all of the Rod tips the same distance above the water. Makes seeing a light bite easy because you'll see the change in the height of the tip from the water with a fish on it when you set all the tips at the same level to start with.
The lower you set the front Y of the actual Rod holder, the closer you pull the holder towards you. The higher you adjust it, the farther you push the holder away from you. I sell tons of them every year, and I push and pull cranks with mine all the time. No troubles. I do use the Tite-Lok 5841 T-bar in the rear for straight pulling tho.
I'm considering selling the ones I have now to get some new black ones for my new Ranger demo.
Brm did you have the mods done also. Thanks for input.
My main reason for maybe going this route personally is because the tbar system really obscures my driving vision for my short no neck fat rump. I have to lean to side not to see decent.
Oh yea!!! Mine have been Fixed with the correct mods.Quote:
Originally Posted by arkansasbowhunter
My main reason for using them over a T-bar system is that when a fish hits a pole and you don't see the initial bite, only the holder that gets hit shakes, NOT the entire rack. A T-bar shakes when a fish hits, and if you don't see that hit right off the bat, you can't tell which rod was hit because the whole rack shakes from it.
I know that Steve changed to this system from the Spyderlocs because those racks shake so bad when a fish hits them. The Tite-Lok T-bar shakes also, but not near as bad as the others because of the wider FLAT T-bar.
One more thing about the C&C or Widow-maker Rod holders. Do NOT use the one long track like I use. Use the individual tracks that come with them. The single track will cause them to shake just a little bit more than the individual tracks. It makes them more like an upside down T-bar. Since the T is mounted to the deck, it isn't very much shaking, but on a Hard Hit, they all will shake just a little. It takes More screw holes for the individual tracks, but well worth it for the tourney guys that MUST see which Rod got hit without searching for it. It lets you catch a few more fish in a days time. You know as well as I that a Big Fish hits lighter than a smaller fish. It's imperative that you find that bite in a tourney. One or two more Good Ones makes a huge difference at the weigh in. [emoji4]
Man I liked the whole rod rack shacking to wake me up [emoji3]. If you get rid them and don't mind I will try yours out. I am in no hurry.