Which rod do you prefer for pushing Minnows ?
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Which rod do you prefer for pushing Minnows ?
Southern Crappie 14s, or 16s
Southern crappie 14 footers
pst's 14 footers.
Southern crappie 16's
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16 ft. Jenko's! !! Soft tip Great Backbone! !!!Quote:
Originally Posted by Ggt
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BGJP Hands Down!!!!!!
I have both southern crappie and b&m pst's. Like both sets
What size wait will you be pushing?
Hey Bill......Do you power troll or push cranks with those BGJP's.....Just wondering if they will handle the 3oz weight and 1.6 - 1.8Quote:
Originally Posted by BigRiverMarine
I've had 3 oz on some BGJPS before, John Woods got a good laugh out of it but I did limit out!! Them dudes were BENT!
Think the PST's would be a better choice if you had one set of rods to "DO ALL" ?? Not for me, but being asked this question....I'm partial to my Ozarks when pushing....:biggrinQuote:
Originally Posted by Rees Guide
Southern crappie 14
Ozarks are stout for sure, Southerns are very good for the price prolly the best. I have a new set of Berkley Trolling Rods in 14s and really like them, maybe the best hook set I have had in a rod. Got a set of Denali on the way, depending on how they handle the weight one or the other will be for sale. The Berkley s have surprised me pleasantly
So whats your opinion on pushing 3 oz weights and minners with the same rod? Will the Southerns handle the weight better than the BGJP's or Berkleys?Quote:
Originally Posted by Rees Guide
The Southern Heavy rod is the best of those for a 3 oz weight, the Bucks not so much. I used 3 oz on the Berkleys Wed and they did fine, most of the bend out toward the top section. Pushed minners this morning with 2 oz and the Berkleys did real good.
With that said the Southern Heavy and regular trolling poles are some kinda tuff and if I had not got a dang good deal on the Berkleys and the Denallis that is the way I would have went and may anyway. Really like the hook set on the Berkleys, you can jerk a knot in his tail quick with them.
Not much help am I>???:biggrin
Great Help.....Thanks JohnQuote:
Originally Posted by Rees Guide
Rees you got a set of Denali's coming? If I had your money I'd throw mine away. LOL Will like to hear how you like them and how much weight they can handle. By the time you pay tax and or shipping them Denali's are over 70 bucks a rod aren't they? If you end up selling some 14 footers let me know John, thanks.
I won't have that in em I assure you, lol.
B'n"M 14' or 16' BGJP's are the best for sure!
Don't use the BGJP to power troll. I have three sets of rods for different techniques. Pushing minnows isn't power trolling to me. I can use up to 11/2 oz on the BGJP and go up to 1 mph, but I like a different setup for trolling like that. I use the PST's with a C&C tip on it for aggressive fishing in that speed and weight range, but when I really want to Power Troll, I use a 3 oz weight on a Crappiemaxx pole with two 1/4 oz road runners. I used all three setups pre fishing this tourney. Power trolled to cover more water and locate, PST's with a 1 oz weight to offset the bounce from the wind, and fish a bit deeper, and the BGJP to fish mid depth to shallower and finesse troll the light biters.Quote:
Originally Posted by hawgdog
For Most of my TRUE minnow pushing I use the BGJP. Great tip action, but the lighter backbone seems to help the light biters (usually bigger fish) hold on longer than they do when they hit a pole with a heavy backbone. Gives me more time to see and hook them.
PSTs are mighty fine.
PST's all around best pole made...IMO :fish
I agree. Especially if the fish are aggressive and you want to swing em in the boat. I use them also. I like the Capps and Coleman tips better on my 16'ers tho. The C&C tip is softer (more sensitive), breaks way less than the PST tip, and you still have a heavy backbone with them.Quote:
Originally Posted by NeilHillard
Thanks Bill.....I was asked about having one set to "do all"...what would that be. With the info you gave, I would say the PST's even though he would be giving up some sensitivity pushing minnows at a slow troll.....That fair to say?
There are lots of good all around poles out there. Most of them have already been mentioned. It really boils down to personal preference. Ozark, Jenko, Southern Crappie, Denali, BnM PST, ACC, etc. Most of these poles are about the same in that they offer a sensitive tip with lots of backbone for hoisting in the fish without a net. Most guides prefer these type poles because they work good for novice fishermen and they hold up well, and they have multiple uses.Quote:
Originally Posted by hawgdog
The recent CM champions used BGJP's. C&C use BGJP's, not that it matters, but I use BGJP's. I like them best for what I do, put in my opinion, it's better to have other options for different techniques. No one pole is the best for everything.
16 foot only. Ozark only. Tony Edgar Signature for the all around rod. Will push, power troll and crank. Not too stiff or too flimsy. Now for a more sensitive tactical rod that is perfect for straight pushing only the new Ozark Pro series is a no doubter. Same as the Signature but more backbone which makes the tip super fast and sensitive. Makes the tip seems light like a BGJP. LOVE them. Pricey but of the highest quality.
If it seems like a BGJP, might as well get a BGJP. Quality built, and NOT pricey. [emoji12][emoji23][emoji23][emoji23]Quote:
Originally Posted by Missouri Bushwhacker
Sorry. What I guess I meant to say is that the Ozark Pro series has a similar fast sensitive tip that most people like the BGJP for, HOWEVER, the pro series has the stiffer backbone that the BGJP greatly lacks. Best of both worlds for me. It results I believe in a better hook set. That's my 2 pennies anyway.
I've sold a many a Ozark rod in my boat shop over the years. They are good rods like I mentioned in an earlier post on this thread, and are a good choice for an all around pole.Quote:
Originally Posted by Missouri Bushwhacker
I like a heavy backbone sometimes but I like the lighter backbone of the BGJP for the light biters. The light biting fish (cold front fish) seem to hold on to the bait longer with the lighter backbone. The BGJP pole doesn't load up as quick with the lighter spine. It gives me more chances to catch them when I miss the initial bump, or when they don't bump the tip at all but just hold the bait and ease the tip down. The fish don't try to spit the bait as fast with the lighter spine as they will when they hit that heavy backbone like on the PST's or other brands that are heavy in the spine.
That's my 2 cents worth also. It comes from years of observation and trying lots of different poles. Lots of good ones out there too. It all boils down to what YOU (meaning anyone) like and YOUR style of fishing. There really isn't a right or wrong answer, but rather just different opinions, and like rear ends, we all have one. [emoji4]
Wow....I knew there were several different kinds, weights, etc., but had NO idea it was THAT specific. I need to get ME up to speed. I could barely follow the techno advise given here....all good, too. I fish with 14 and 16 Ozarks, I think med heavy (?), and wouldn't know a lite bite from a regular bite. I just try to catch fish. Lord, I need to get out more!!!
just cut a piece of bamboo they free and got plenty of backbone
14ft Capps and coleman
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If you are po like me , I can't afford different sets of poles, so I just use what I think is the best all purpose pole for ''MY'' fishing. That's why I fish the pst's...:fish
And that was my question.....Any from the responses, the PST's are the answer for one pole for all.Quote:
Originally Posted by crappie cowboy
I can agree....i had bgjps and capps and coleman....I now have the PST's and thats what I will be sticking with as it is a rod that will do it all for me...push cranks, pull cranks, spider rig minners with 1/2 oz or even up to 3 oz if i wanna power troll.....all while still allowing me to see light bites.....Im not nearly as experienced as the majority on here but for me I could only afford one set of poles and the PST's are the ticket for me
Word from B & M folks is that they have a new trolling rod coming for power trolling with heavier weights. This came from a friend that is sponsored by B & M. I received a 2017 catalog a few days ago but I didn't see a new trolling rod offering in it, so not sure when they will be available.
I can finally get rid of my Crappiemaxx rods if they do. I definitely a BnM guy!!!!!Quote:
Originally Posted by SlabMeister
The Crappiemaxx rods have served me VERY WELL tho. I'm happy with them. Only thing is, they don't sell tips for them. Only broke one in all the years I've used them and the Wally version of the Tightline Specials however.
You told me u wanted to trade rods several months ago and would let me know when u could meet. I haven't heard a peep out of you. I take it you don't want to trade?Quote:
Originally Posted by tigerinfielder3
I also reminded you that I have a new born baby and didn't have any idea when I'd be able to, I haven't been fishing much less take the time to drive to Batesville, if you'd like to drive to baldwyn I'd be glad to tradeQuote:
Originally Posted by bird down
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