I see where there is a new crappie fishing circuit being formed by Lucas Oil. Anyone got details??
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I see where there is a new crappie fishing circuit being formed by Lucas Oil. Anyone got details??
It sounds good to me. $425 entry fee. 10 day grace period before the 4 day "practice period" before each tournament. Should help level the playing field.
They have a little more info up on their site within the last couple days. Look like payback will be much more reasonable compared to some other circuits. They are being run by the old BASS folks is what I hear.
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whats their web site address?
Americancrappietrail.com. They have a Facebook page too
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Pretty sure Paul Alpers has a role in this too, he is the former owner of Crappie Masters
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Paul Alpers and Matt Morgan are heading it up. Ranger Boats and Lucas Oil are Major sponsors. Will give a Ranger Aluminum boat to the winners at every tourney.
American Crappie Trail
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Name and logo change from the original. Same schedule.
doesn't look too bad except the payouts are based on 100 boats. They need to post payouts of up to 99 boats. Will not be many 100 boat tournaments. The other circuits are doing lots of things right and too well.
Granada lake??? Never fished it.
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Originally Posted by Gomer Snerd
Something tells me that Ranger boats have way too much mark up to give one away at every tourney....
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Originally Posted by Gomer Snerd
ACT is exactly what the sport of crappie fishing needs. Big payouts, tv, Internet, level playing field, no BS, livewell checks, national sponsor support, true fish care weigh-in tanks, polygraph, and a true Classic Qualification process = no phone call invites to the Classic. Fewer tournaments spread apart on good lakes that will elevate crappie fishing to new levels. It's about time! You are going to see some boys come out of retirement to fish this trail. Saddle up boys!
17% to be exact. Figure 100 teams at 425.00. Only give a handful of boats away. Probably MUCH cheaper than one prime time TV add.Quote:
Originally Posted by bandchaser
8 boats X 20,000.00 is only 160,000. For Ranger, that's like you going to McDonalds for a Happy Meal. [emoji4]
Great tax write off
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I'm glad to see it ...I think, but the boat entrance fee of $425.00 will eliminate a few I think, but what do I know. I'm just an old po' fart. Some of the local tournaments may suffer from this? It will get in your pocket to fish Crappie Master's, Magnolia, and cc.com the same month. This could cause a few divorces also...:Rofl
Almost everyone will agree that bigger sponsors and payouts are welcome. The only issue I can see is the 10 day off-limits rule before the four day official practice begins. That means if Crappie.com, Magnolia, Crappie Masters, or Crappie USA have a tourney within 2 weeks prior, you will have to choose which one to participate. These clubs are already established and have extremely loyal members. That's gonna be a problem for a lot of serious tournament fishermen.
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Yep, decision's, decision's, decision's. The boat entries will be falling off for some of the local tournaments, I hate to see that, they have worked so hard to build their tournaments up.......:scratchhead
I doubt it will make that much difference in entries.. Can't see everyone running our to pay that kind of money..if they are not fishing the pro tournaments now
I agree. Only tourneys this will affect will be the pro tourneys if they schedule on the same dates (which has already happened). Most of the guys fishing the Fruit Jar, and the MCC will only fish the local events. Not many of the local guys and gals spend the time or money chasing the pros around with their sponsor money. It's hard for a working guy, even the mom and pop self employed to afford them-self that much free time away from their job or business.Quote:
Originally Posted by KnightShadow10
From what I've seen of the pro crappie tourneys I don't see how anyone could fish the "circuit" without a sponsor. The purses are pitifully small, certainly no way to make a living. Hat's off to any that do!
I think for me to fish the the ACT tournament say at Grenada Lake, it cost me around $ $700 dollars or so. Lodging, eats, gas for boat and truck, half of entrance fee, ramp fees, minnows. I would have to place in the lower top 10 to break even, I think.
I don't fish the tournaments, I live to far in left field [ N. Ar. ] to make the drive.
It is hard for me to see 100 boats paying that kind of entrance fee's to reach their advertised pay outs. I'm a small thinker I guess...:twocents
This ACT is going to be tough at the best for most of the folks to fish. The established clubs will win out for sure. Looking at the ACT rules teams would have to skip tournaments they been fishing a long time. 100 boats is wishful thinking.
Exactly what I was thinking.Quote:
Originally Posted by coachnomo
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I don't see how they expect to have a 100 boats, much less 100 boats to qualify for a championship. Looking at the rules an active guide can't fish these tourneys, that eliminates a bunch at each lake. The Grenada Tourney may be an exception this spring, a March 10th date is way early and the 60 day thing is not much of an obstical that time of the year. Will consider it after the first of the year and decide, but Grenada is most likely the only one I would even consider. Also I am pretty sure the 10th of March is the same date as the Crappie Masters at Washington.
What is this "60 day thing" you speak of? Anyhow, I also can't see 100 boats, maybe I'm wrong, hope I am. If they are competing with another club on the same weekend...forgetaboutit
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You can't guide or hire a guide on the lake the tourney is held at 60 days prior to the event.
Can pro guides fish? Seems like this is the type tournament they should be able to fish...
Looks like they can fish just can't guide or fish on the tourney like during the 60 day dead period before the tournament. Say tourney was on Grenada that would knock a lot of guys out. Would cost them more in missed guide trips than they would make if they won the tourney.Quote:
Originally Posted by KnightShadow10
I don't know many "good" fishermen that don't guide some..part time ...this rule will cost them a block of good fishermen..miss two guide trips, and they have lost money
In respect to the tourney at Grenada on March 10 I dont think it will matter as much, taking out January and February at Grenada is not really that big a deal, now the Crappie Masters Tourney on Washington will take out a bunch or add a bunch. The purse will tell the tail, do you fish one tourney where the payouts arent all that great for the money verses the money they charge to fish their tourney, lot of livings being made in the Crappie Masters realm. Or do you spend another 100 bucks and fish for a chance to win a new boat, basically what Crappie Masters does in their championship and ACT is going to do it in all their tourneys.
Cray, the guides themselves can guide on the lake up until the 10 day grace period begins. Participants can't hire a guide 60 days prior. Local guides would need to work Enid or Sardis during the grace period and keep on guiding. The tournaments are also scheduled prior to a Crappiemaster's tourney so there are no conflicts with them. Local tournaments could be another issue, however, ACT has posted their schedule already. Not sure if the locals have or not.Quote:
Originally Posted by cray
I know a lot of people that are really excited about this new trail. It sounds as if they are actually trying to do it right. I really like the idea of not having a classic with two hundred boats and with ACT you actually have to qualify instead of fishing three. Prefishing must be done with one boat which makes it all equal. Crappiemasters have people in their classic every year that didn't actually qualify. I mean if you fish 3 tournaments and cant catch 7 each time then should you really be at the classic in everyones way?
Thanks for clearing up the 60 day thing Yikes, I misread that as well.Quote:
Originally Posted by yikess
the Crappie Masters at Washington and the ACT at Grenada are set for the same date unless CM has made a change lately, this will effect someone's numbers for sure.
I agree with having to qualify, I have fished a couple of National Championships by invitation, never qualified for one, just not my thing as far as chasing the circuit all over the country, will to bet that if I sent my money in this time I could fish the one the end of the month having fished on in the spring, not right. Even in our FJs everyone fishing has to be qualified, something earned.
Looking at the rules for ACT, If all the rules are followed to the "T" they will be lucky to average 35 boats for the tournaments they have listed. Not sure what they are thinking or using to throw out the 100 boat numbers.
I am sure they are taking a lot closer look into it by now.
John... Who are the fisherman that are making a living fishing the Crappie Masters Tournament. I realize there are those that own and manage make money, but just can't see a tournament fisherman making a living at it on just the money winnings. Like I said before, I'm a small time thinker.Quote:
Originally Posted by Rees Guide
I weren't talking about fisherman making a living
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Originally Posted by Rees Guide
That's a one in 35 chance to win a new boat for my 1/2 of $425 on Grenada and again on Sardis. Not a bad deal. If we win I will pay Speck $212.50 for his 1/2 and keep the boat.:)Quote:
Originally Posted by coachnomo
I haven't seen where they say how many fish you can weigh in. I would assume it's seven live fish per day but I haven't seen that anywhere.