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I have a stocked pond and as anywhere get snakes in it. My grandkids are down there all the time, and not as aware as an adult. I try to clean the moccasins out with a 22, but it is literally hit and miss. Anyone ever use a 410? Just wondering if it would be more efficient.
A shotgun of any gauge would be my choice on the cottonmouths. I don't have a .410, but my 12 gauge has accounted for plenty of moccasins.
Rem 870 20 gauge pump shotgun cheaper on shells than 410 and more shot. # 6's or 7 1/2's, 2 3/4 in shells.Have them"snakes" in my neighbor's pond and"cottonmouth's" in the spring creek that runs through our property.Thats what we use a snake struck our cat this morning.
Taurus Judge 410/45 pistol. Works great, plus you can keep it with you, easily.
Depends upon how well you shoot. We busted two last week in the yard. We live on the river, so they are here regular. All the dogs have been bit. Ann has become very good with the 22LR pistol. Don't find it necessary to bring out the big weapons, besides those spooks the dogs.
22 LR Rat shot works great in my Ruger target pistol
I'm like Jackie, I got a old beat up 3 shot bolt action moss erg 20 gage that stays on my 4 wheeler. Buy them cheap 2 3/4 number 7 1/2's target load. Burn them dudes up on my pond. Keep it weed eated to the water line but one still migrates in every once in awhile but he dont last long.
I carry a single shot 410 in my boat for that reason.
I am a dyed in the wool 1911 fan and carry one when in the woods (until it gets cold) loaded with shot shells. I have dispatched cotton mouths, copper heads, and rattle snakes with it. They make these shells for several different calibers for wheel guns and automatics.
CCI Ammunition - Pest Control & Speciality
Don't ever try to argue snake identification with anyone. Most opinions are set in stone and at least half are wrong.
I have a 410 snake tamer that I use when the dog and I go to trail deer. many times during early season I have ejected the slug for the blood trail and slipped a #6 in the to take care of a snake
I have used most of the above mentioned, 410, 20 gauge, 12 gauge and 22LR. My personal preference is the 22LR pistol for 2 reasons, 1.The ammo is the cheapest and 2.The pistol is easier to carry than a shotgun. My second choice would be the 12 gauge shotgun for the simple matter that it is easier to find 12 gauge shells than 410 or even 20 gauge sometimes.
That is most certainly true. I know the ones that will hurt people and dogs. The poisonous snakes have a pupil that resembles a cats eye - oblong shape with peaked ends, like a slit. Non-venomous snakes have round pupils. Whatever I shoot, I look them in the eyes.Quote:
Originally Posted by mermentau
Chicken snakes aren't poisonous but every one that I have caught in the bird pen has died of lead poison!
If I was the teacher you would get an A+ for sure.Quote:
Originally Posted by Tracker123
I carry an old 9mm S&W with rat shot when I'm at the camp. Only because I don't want to shoot rat shot out of any of my 1911's
If I'm looking them in the eyes I'm too close!Quote:
Originally Posted by Tracker123
.410 shells are $15/box here. I can shoot .22 rat shot or 9 mm cheaper! Rat shot is my choice
I have both 2 12 gauges and a .410 and have always wondered why is a .410 shell more expensive?
Not even close to being correct. Eye shape doesn't correlate to venomous in any way.Quote:
Originally Posted by Tracker123
Here in the south in can be a good rule of thumb identifying pit vipers from water snakes or rat snakes, but many of the most poisonous snakes of the world have round eyes
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"TOP 3 MOST COMMON TRAITS OF VENOMOUS SNAKES:
1) It is big and fat (all in the USA, except that red-black-yellow coral, are fat pit vipers)
2) It is a rattlesnake, with real rattles on the end of its tail
3) It has elliptical pupils (but I doubt you're close enough to look)"
How To Tell if a Snake is Venomous / Poisonous
One of several references.
I think we are only talking of snakes in the South USA. We don't fish the Amazon very often.Quote:
Originally Posted by Oldyankee
use a 22 rifle and a old 410 single shot, I like the 410 with #6 shot when im serious about getting rid of the snakes,, lol,, and the 22 on the turtles,, the 410 will do the job
I only shoot a few times a year. Box last me about 5 years. I do like 22lr also, but those got kinda expensive and hard to find for a while. I ask everytime I go to walmart if they have any. Usually they don't. I can get it other places but pay more. Plus I can hit a snake easier with my little 410.Quote:
Originally Posted by arkcrappie
I'm not 100% sure, but my belief is that they don't make as many 410 shells (or 20 gauge for that matter) as the 12 gauge. Of course with the introduction of the Judge, I'm sure they increased the percentage of 410 shells being made.Quote:
Originally Posted by Eatmorecrappie
I agree on the production driving pricing. Think 410 is bad look at the 16. I have one of those along with the 410, 20 and 12.Quote:
Originally Posted by shadow
Go ahead with your theory, pick this coral snake up. Found all over the US. A bite often is lethal.http://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/2016...7112c3d487.pngQuote:
Originally Posted by mermentau
Just trying to point out, your theory applies to pit vipers. And to your defense, been in the woods my hole life, and never saw a black on yellow your a dead fellow.
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I heard it was, "Red and yellow, kill a fellow."
As to the reference that I posted, the exception is the coral snake in the southern US. Read it.
Red on yellow kill a fellow.......coral snake
Red on black alright Jack.....king snake
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True about the eyes of the coral snake, but I've never seen one and would guess most here have not either.Quote:
Originally Posted by Oldyankee
I would disagree.Quote:
Originally Posted by Oldyankee
I shoot a 16 ga. dove hunting and in the timber duck hunting. $15-18/box is normal. Glad I don't shoot a .28 gaQuote:
Originally Posted by cray
If we get rid of all the snakes the rats will take over. :popcorn
Not true....do some research Coral Snake Information & FactsQuote:
Originally Posted by Oldyankee
An AR would probably be better. More fun for sure.:)
My brother used to own a place with the snakiest pond I've ever seen. Every time you went down there to fish, it was a good idea to take a stick and beat the brush to scare off the snakes. He always carried a 38 revolver loaded with snake shot. I loaded the shells for him and he would go thru a couple of boxes ( about 100 rounds ) every year. I know he used a shotgun sometimes, so he killed a pile of snakes around that pond.
Not much to add here other than identifying venomous snakes in La. should never come down to the yes. I know them when I see them immediately. And here's a La. Milk I caught at Ft. Buhlow rec area in Pineville,
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I carry a J frame 38 loaded with CCI snake shot when at the camp and Speer Gold dots for two legged snakes at all other places.
If I lived in, or fished in, an area that was full of venomous snakes ... and it was legal to carry a firearm on that land or body of water ... I'd probably opt for a Taurus Judge. Open carry is legal in KY, so I'd have it in a holster ... easy to get to & not cumbersome to carry around. :twocents
CrappiePappy, that is my choice. I can tell you they work excellent on snakes and my number one yard enemy, Moles! :ThumbsUp