Have no ideal how the principal works but would love to try it. I have known and seen people using this method, just don't know how to get started. Any comments would be appreciated.
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Have no ideal how the principal works but would love to try it. I have known and seen people using this method, just don't know how to get started. Any comments would be appreciated.
This should be interesting, I would say get in the boat with someone who does it. I do it different than most but it works and you can cover more water.
Rees has great advice.. and you can learn a lot from going with someone "seasoned" in pulling longlines... but remember this. every boat does NOT pull jigs the same. friend of mine that got me started on this told me this and he's never spoken truer words,, you gotta do your homework to learn your depths.. it takes time, lots of patients, and lots of jigs. the one thing you are for sure to become is one heck of a fast loop knot tier!
first basics you'll need is :
1. electric steer trolling motor
2.good map card
3.LOTS of jigs
4.floats on your rods(I learned this the expensive way)
5. two people.. long lining alone can be aggravating alone
6. patients.. LOTS of patients...its not a method you'll become consistently successful at overnight
this is my advice.. I am not and do not claim to be a professional long liner.. however, I have become confident enough in the past years that the advice I giving you is legit! I still learn new tricks to this technique every year.
first you need to go to a lake that has slick flats or shallows up gradually. Enid is perfect for this. Barnett is not the lake to learn long lining in!.
Rigging:
I use 6lb mono. double rigs.. I tie loop knots 36-48'' apart, top jig will have 4-6'' tag and always put lightest jig on top and I use stroll'rs!!
make you a list like this..
1st. single 1/32
2nd. double 1/32
3rd. 1/32 and 1/16
4th. single 1/16
5th.double 1/16
6th single 1/8.. and so forth (you get the point)
casting distance.. I use as for as I can throw the rig I have rigged.. whatever the weight is..reason I say this is because I use all the exact same rods, reels, line, ect., and that's exactly how I threw them out when I recorded my depths and that's the easiest way to stay consistent with your long lining depths, and trust me... it matters. For example: if I see fish at 11' deep and rig up to put my jigs in their zone, cast my lines out on my side and my 7 year old son cast his lines out on his side.. chances are im gonna catch fish and he will not... he didn't cast them the length I did when i recorded my depths and he's to shallow!
Speed. I recorded mine at .8 when I first started. I like that speed,have good luck with it, feel confident with it and at .8 all my maps on my electronics always stay true.
pull from deep water to shallower water and watch your poles. when they start dragging bottom write down that depth beside what your rigged with on your list.. continue with each setup
that will give you a good starting point, then you can go back and make list with different speeds, baits, etc
when you finally get that part done and go to the fishing part, remember this.. different speeds can/will yield different results. if you pull through fish, and get no hits but are certain you're in their zone...slow it down, or speed it up.. turn left and right.. this will let you know if they want it faster or slower.
hope this is some help to you. do some searching on here and on MCC's site. there's some good articles about long lining that will help and give you even more ideas.
Excellent read Dee, great help there!!!!!
What Dee said plus....To go shallower speed up a little......to run deeper slow down some.....lots of trial and error at first.
Does anyone use line counters? I'm new to long lining jigs also and have been using the cast out technique as well, but this year I bought a couple of line counters in an effort to make it more of an exact science. I guess it will also depend on how accurate the said counters are, but I will be keeping detailed records on speed, depth, and jig weights in a log book to make it as much of a science as it can be this year. Also, I will check the accuracy of my line counters after every outing to make sure they are calibrated correctly.
Snubbys..I don't pulling jigs only pulling crank baits
I kinda do and have done fairly well. I use nothing but 1/4 oz jigs, 2 on each line. 1/2 oz of weight at 1 mph will run half as deep as the line out (in theory). In other words, if you have 10 feet of line out your bait should be running 5 feet deep. Not much line out but I peg a cork above it to set depth and then let them out off the side just like pulling cranks, short pole less line to the cork, long pole the most line to the cork.Quote:
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10-4 Dee, I got the idea from a guy in Tennessee who pulls cranks and jigs and has good success with both. After researching the subject there isn't a whole lot of info out there. I did find one really good article on the Magnolia Crappie Club website. I may be confused on the difference between long lining and pulling being new to it and all. The friend from TN is supposed to take me out this summer to show me his methods when the time gets right for it.
I got you Rees, so you guys are pulling the jigs under floats and not just letting them free swim behind the boat?
I am one of very few "pulling corks", its simple tho and i can wrap my mind around it.
Hey Rees what kind and what size float do you use?
Big popping cork with a slit in it, spillway cork. Can run a crank under it as well.
When we first started long lining we would mark our line with a magic marker when we caught a fish and could go right back to the same depth.
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Yep.. I remember that idea.. Worked great until everything hung a top and broke off.
Don't you miss the beginning headaches of long lining jigs! LOL
I'm new at long lining but did well this past weekend. Not knowing the depth my jig was running was my biggest concern, but I took the guess work out of knowing my depth by knowing what my line out was. I used the Depth Hunter braid line in a 20/6. That's 20lb test and 6lb diameter. I put a 6' leader on a very small barrel swivel at the end of my braid. With the Depth Hunter line I know how much line is in the water. The Depth Hunter line changes color every 25', and it has 5' marks in every color so I know exactly how much line is out Every Time. I cast my poles out as far as I could and then adjusted the line out in the water. I used a single 1/8th jig and I pulled Stroll R's, Southern Pro Hot Grubs, and Slick Jig mid spins, and I went 1 mph. I adjusted the line out until I started catching fish. When I knew how much line was out to catch fish, I copied that on all of my poles. Remember, line out is amount of line in the water, not off the reel. With my colored braid, I could see where it touched the water, and how many 5' tick marks were out as well regardless of the pole length. You will have a lot more line off the reel on a 16' pole than you will an 8' pole. It's only the line in the water that really matters to your depth.
It worked like a charm. The line made it easy to know what I was doing. In swallower water, just change to a lighter jig or put less line out. For deeper water use a larger jig or more line out. You can also adjust your speed up or down to control your depth.
Summary:
If you see fish at a certain depth, adjust your line out until you start catching fish. When you start catching fish, you'll know about how deep the jig is running in relation to that jig size, the amount of line you have IN THE WATER, and the speed you're going. I used the KISS method. Keep It Simple Stupid!!! [emoji12][emoji4][emoji4]http://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/2016...f0c88ed01b.jpg
Nice fish Bill
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Wtg Wild Bill, but what if a guy is color blind like me?....:dono
What is a slick jig mid spin? Never heard of it. How about a picture
That marked line sounds handier than a shirt pocket BRM.. it's looking like everyone develops their on technique / preference to long lining, but it all seems to include some type of math, figuring and calculations. I may be in trouble it looks like.. LOL.. but like Dee mentioned and like everything else I've read or heard on the subject it's basically trial and error and developing your on niche for it. And if you have a friend who knows a little it wouldn't hurt to go witness it first hand. I look forward to learning about it, I've done a little earlier this year with limited success.. I do like the idea of pulling jigs from time to time over cranks.. at least with jigs you can troll at slower speeds and still be getting the lure action needed to attract the bite. And that's what it's all about :-)
"Thanks" to all that responded. A lot of information I will need to disgust and put in play.
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Interesting, thanks for the post and the answers!
I like that idea .... seems more precise than other methods also since you know exactly how much line is out at the point it enters the water.......When you bring a fish in, do you un-peg the cork once the cork gets to the pole or just bring the rest of the line in by hand?Quote:
Originally Posted by Rees Guide
If you are fishing deep you would have to unpeg the cork but most of the time the line behind the peg is shorter than your pole, if I need to fish deeper than that I start pulling cranks
I need to learn
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