Himminbird PC - Using a track to make a route

I need help guys. I uploaded my 999's card to HBPC; HBPC shows all the track waypoints I want to make into new routes.
I can't get the waypoints from the tracks to make the routes. I tried getting the windows (waypoints and new route) tiled vertically but they will not copy and paste or drag and drop or anything else for that matter... I tried to copy and pasting in active pane plane...
I ctrl and c to highlight the points I want to move but it will not show anything copied on the clipboard to paste...
I am proficient at CATIA and I cant figure it out.

Ill have to experiment with this one ...(I don't normally use Routes) ...

Rickie

I would appreciate it Rickie. I ever haven't used them either. I am trying to make my time more efficient on a timbered lake with long runs between spots. So I thought I would give it a shot. How hard could it be right... Terry

Ok Terry ... The info is here (even tho I'm not successful with the procedure yet) ...

Transferring Waypoints from Google Earth to Humminbird PC,

I can get the trackpoints into Google Earth and create a new route (GE calls it "path" under "Add/Path") ...

I'm losing the procedure in GPSbabel somehow ...

I will get hold of LittleGazoo and see if he can pop in here to help us with this ...

Rickie

Thanks for digging into it Rickie. Man its a bugger ... Last time (and only time) I used GPS management sites I got a computer virus. Thus I only use, or try to use that is, HBPC.
I tried to do it on the 999 this morning. I went to the track and followed it marking what I thought were new waypoints. After I hit mark it just said successfully saved but I don't know what as saved or where because there were no new waypoints to view.
I posted my problem on SI forum also. Terry

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Originally Posted by IceNitro

Thanks for digging into it Rickie. Man its a bugger ... Last time (and only time) I used GPS management sites I got a computer virus. Thus I only use, or try to use that is, HBPC.
I tried to do it on the 999 this morning. I went to the track and followed it marking what I thought were new waypoints. After I hit mark it just said successfully saved but I don't know what as saved or where because there were no new waypoints to view.
I posted my problem on SI forum also. Terry

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If you have Screenshot enabled under the Accessories tab and do not have a SD Card in the unit ... Waypoints will not be saved when you hit the "Mark" button ...

Rickie

Good call Rickie. I disabled screenshot and it worked fine. I had the card out hoping HBPC would make quick work of it... Not... It took some work but I made 3 routes with 50 waypoints in each ; (apparently 50 is max). They should help keep me from running into timber and or chipping wood. Now I can delete the 5,346 waypoints saved with the track. I guess no one uses HBPC by itself to do it because you and LowePro are the only guys who responded.
Thank you for the guidance. Terry

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Originally Posted by IceNitro

Good call Rickie. I disabled screenshot and it worked fine. I had the card out hoping HBPC would make quick work of it... Not... It took some work but I made 3 routes with 50 waypoints in each ; (apparently 50 is max). They should help keep me from running into timber and or chipping wood. Now I can delete the 5,346 waypoints saved with the track. I guess no one uses HBPC by itself to do it because you and LowePro are the only guys who responded.
Thank you for the guidance. Terry

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Correct... Routes can only have 50 waypoints ...

And "Trackpoints" are different than waypoints ...tracks can contain 20,000 track points before new track points start overwriting the 1st track points ...

Rickie

Sorry I'm late to the party since I've had issues posting.

I'm curious why you don't keep using saved tracks for running on lakes. I've found numerous advantages to tracks versus routes.
If you created the track while on the water with your HB, the 5,346 track-points can be greatly reduced. And you avoid the screen clutter from the route waypoints.
These tracks can be created on the water with your HB, Google Earth & Reefmaster software.

Tracks can be merged by type. I have merged tracks into 1 track each for boatruns, creeks, roadbeds, etc.

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Originally Posted by LittleGazoo

Sorry I'm late to the party since I've had issues posting.

I'm curious why you don't keep using saved tracks for running on lakes. I've found numerous advantages to tracks versus routes.
If you created the track while on the water with your HB, the 5,346 track-points can be greatly reduced. And you avoid the screen clutter from the route waypoints.
These tracks can be created on the water with your HB, Google Earth & Reefmaster software.

Tracks can be merged by type. I have merged tracks into 1 track each for boatruns, creeks, roadbeds, etc.

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Why , I have never done it before.
I will do some research on you post. Thank you

If you can make a route with 20 waypoints, you can have a track with 20 track-points. And a track can have 20,000 track-points.

I had to blend info together info from different tracks and google earth to make the routes. It was my 1st time wading thru heavily wooded acreage so the existing tracks were unproven as are the routes I made. When they are proven I will save the tracks and I will delete the rest...

LittleGazoo What is the point of your last post?

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Originally Posted by IceNitro

I had to blend info together info from different tracks and google earth to make the routes. It was my 1st time wading thru heavily wooded acreage so the existing tracks were unproven as are the routes I made. When they are proven I will save the tracks and I will delete the rest...
LittleGazoo What is the point of your last post?

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Humminbird units create many track-points, so I often will take those tracks into Google Earth to remake them with less track-points when possible. I will adjust the track or straighten the track when possible(maybe in open water). I've made tracks of boat-runs, boat-paths, creeks, submerged roadbeds, etc.

For me, tracks are much more convenient display when on the water. Route waypoints result in more waypoint clutter. IMO.

Roadbed track example:
I might make 15 individual & separate submerged roadbed tracks. I will import these into Reefmaster software and merge the 15 tracks into 1 roadbed tracks for that lake.
So I have one roadbed track with 15 track-segments. And it is one track on your HB unit.

Google Earth & Reefmaster support tracks with track-segments. You take X tracks and just merge into one track with X segments.
Here is a Google Earth snapshot of one track with many roadbeds:

I do the same for boatruns & boatpaths on a lake. All the boatruns are merged into one boatrun track(which I make green color). All boatpaths(idle only paths) are merged into one boatpath track(which I make red color). Therefore I know when to run on plane or just idle.
Small section for an example:
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As I continue to work on boatpaths, I will eventually verify a boatpath is clear and safe to run at speed. Then I will move it to the boatrun track.
This is easy to do with Google Earth and Reefmaster.

FYI: I'm on Lowrance units now, but back when I ran Humminbird units I would make HB sonar SI recordings, then use Humviewer software to make tracks since the SI would display stumps and trees to avoid. Humviewer allowed one to also waypoint stumps when they were close or on a change of direction so I would not cut a corner on that side.

Google Earth examples were easier than taking snapshots off my units with the tracks displaying on Navionics or other mapping. But let me know if you would like to see the map screen snapshot.

Sorry for the information overload.

And FYI since you have Humminbird units. A HB Restore Defaults or software upgrade(which does a Restore Defaults) will reset all Saved Track setting back to HB default track characteristics which means I would have to reedit each track to my preferred colors & line-styles. Reediting one merged track is much easier than 50 tracks.

Thank you for your reply LittleGazoo. I appreciate your expertise and willingness to take the time to share with us . Very informative. I will study up on your proven methods and eventually try to incorporate them into a routine. I say eventually because its going to take a lot of time and homework ; that is some serious methodology... Thanks again, Terry