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Had my 1st day of solo long lining today.
On the whole, it went well I suppose.
No waiting at the ramps.( a miracle)
Headed to S in Crowders
Trolled 6 rods, 4 14', 2 6', got them tangled a few times.
Pulling jigs I made, multiple colors, didn't bring minnows
Caught maybe 12 perch and 6 Crappie.
Only one crappie was good size so I let it go.
Perch released too
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Ps
Oldfish showed up
Scooped up all the fish
what are all the different ways to fish for Crappie?
I hear flat lining, long lining, drifting, trolling.
I'm new at this so I want to learn all I can.
Thanks for any pointers.
You will here different setups called different names. To make is easy on you it goes like this & hope this will help you.Quote:
Originally Posted by FisherFore
1. tight lining (spider rigging) mostly fished from the front of the boat. long rods used and 1/4 oz up weights to keep the lines vertical and fished at a slow speed. This is the way to fish when you want to control jig depth. When the fish are on big flats this is a great way to troll around the flat. Speeds will run from almost stopped up to 1.5 mph
2. Longlining, rods used out the back of the boat with the boat never stopping(most of the time but can be done from front also) you use different length rods to spread out the lines behind the boat. You can use jigs of all sizes but most will pull 1/16 oz jigs. You control the depth of your jigs by the speed of your boat. You have to speed time on flats to see how the jigs run and need to take notes of 1. amount of line out 2. size jighead + type of jigs used 3. speed of the boat. the way to learn this is to pull on different depth flats from 4' deep to 10' deep. Put the lines out the back while running at a fast speed and slow down until your jigs start to hit the bottom, make notes of your speed and the depth of the flat. If it is a 4' flat you now know how to get your jigs down to 4'. Do this on a few flats and you will have a very good starting point.
3. night stalking, anchored fishing with tight lines with light weights.
4. dock shooting, shooting jigs under docks to reach the fish in the shades of the docks or boats.
5. Jigging, using a long rod with a jig dropping down beside any and everything in the water that may be holding crappie
6. single rod fishing. Old style of throwing out a jig or minnow with or without a float.
This covers most of the ways we fish for crappie.
Brett it sounds like you had a good start for your longlining.
Thank you Stump Hunter.
This will help me alot to learn these new ways to me to
Hopefully find more fish.
Thank you again.
Biggest thing for me while long lining is putting the line out the same distance every time. For instance- Outside rods=50', next inside rod 40' third rod 30'. That's how I start if I'm in 15feet or less of water. I can adjust my lengths to what the fish prefer that day. More line=deeper jig. Less line=shallower jig. :)
brett ,I think you were the one scooping up the fish. I caught 18 crappie and only kept 10. Got a mess of perch for catfish bait. You were doing well from what I could see. Practice and did I say practice. Then come teach me how. Good to see ya. Come on out Sat and show us how it is done.
That's a nice start Brett. Keep moving around and trust your electronics and you'll be catching more and more.:)
Do some searches on this forum for the different styles of fishing and read all you can. Decide which method you want to work on and get it mastered and move to the next best style. Once you get set up and start fishing come back and ask PLENTY of questions. That is how you learn.:)Quote:
Originally Posted by FisherFore
Sounds like you both had a good day on the water plus it looked very calm and clear for a change. Thanks for the reports and pictures. Ya'll should be called dawggs for not saying anything. Left the dawgg at home again.:yikes
It will get better, for sure!!!!!!Not bad for the first time.
Tangling up and crossing lines is somewhat par for the course of longlining,just watch it happen when you hook up on four or five at the same time!!!!Congrads on a Good first trip and thanks for the pictures,that water was slick calm.If I can help ya out on anything ,let me know.I almost exclusively longline.Im NO expert by any means,,but I got a lot of experience,,,sorta like those journeymen boxers,,,got a lot of fights,but no chance of winning a belt!.
thank you guys for the tips.
Brett, sounds like you had a god day of testing. Hope you learn lots and share with us what you learn.
Here's a ?
If you mix 1/16 and 1/8 oz jigs, where should you run the 1/8s
Thanks
In the water
Brett I would think below the 1/16th.
Heavier weight under lighter weight.
But that's just me thinking which could be dangerous. LoL
A sophisticated reply from SD.Quote:
Originally Posted by ScooperDude
Sorry
I meant 3 rods using 1/16 jigs
And one rod running oz 1/8
Where do you put the heavier jig to avoid tangles?
In the center?
Stagger the rod lengths and line length and you shouldn't have much trouble if you make wide turns.
Tight turns equal a bird's nest for sure.
If I'm pulling 4 planer boards i'll be about 60-70feet across so no small coves for me
He just dont know you very well do he ! :RoflQuote:
Originally Posted by brettw
Kinda tough gettin that big head in small places ?Quote:
Originally Posted by ScooperDude
Brett, if the sonar tells you to run three rods with 1/16th jigs then why would you want to run 1 rod with a 1/8th jig? Now to answer your question....it wouldnt matter which holder got the heavier jig because you dont know which rod will catch the fish. If a striper hits and one of the rods it's a good possibility that all 4 of your lines gets tangled unless you break him off and FAST!
I run different weight jigs on all of my rods all the time. Here's my process of thinking. Fish are never at one single depth like 10ft. down in 20ft. of water. It's usually more like from 7-13ft down. If I know that a 1/16oz jig will get me to 9 ft deep running .8mph, I will rig up with double 1/24 jigs, double 1/32 jigs, 1/16 & 1/32, and 1/16 & 1/24. At the speed of .8, my jigs will run through the whole column of water that the fish are using, 7-13ft. I run double jigs all the time. Now when I'm fishing from the front of the boat, I use 6 rods. 18, 14, 11 off each side. I will run my heaviest to the inside and lightest on the outside for 2 reasons. 1. The 11ft rod is closer to the boat so deeper will get them further away. 2. When you catch a fish on the outside rod, 18ft, the jigs are running shallower making it harder for the fish to find my other lines. Hope this helps.
Heavier jig in front of lighter one.
I have work to do!Quote:
Originally Posted by Gabepeeps
I was running 1/16& 1/8 due to lack of bites with all 1/16
Thanks to all replies
Great job on the first try! Keep trying it will get better. One thing I would suggest fish different depths. Lines crossing and getting hung up on brush is typical for any kind of trolling but just part of it. As far as different weights, I would use the lightest weight where there isn't much chance of crossing, for example I fish the rods on the sides of the boat so I would put the lightest weight toward the back of the boat.
Great trip Brett!! Sounds like you got the long lining bug. Glad to hear you had some success too!
I think I really struggle with the trusting the electronics part. It is probably mostly because I am not sure what exactly I am looking for. If you or anyone else could give some more information on how to use the electronics more effectively it would really be appreciated. Maybe even some screenshots if that is not asking too much?Quote:
Originally Posted by gabowman
The easiest, and most dependable thing to look for are bait balls, and or fish. Bait will show as a mass, or cloud on the screen, fish will be either arches or fish icons. If your screen is void of any kind of activity, search until you find life. Once activity is located, note the depth of the fish or bait. Adjust troll speed, or lure size until baits are moving through, or just above the bait or fish. Using a multicolor jig set up, alter baits until the bait of choice is determined. Switch more rods to that color bait to opimize catch ratio.
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Originally Posted by MidHillbilly
Good first trolling attempt Brett, anytime you experience success, your doing something right. Once you get things fine tuned, it'll be time to up the ante and increase rod totals. Of coarse, when doing so, you will also need to increase your volcabulary. !@#@$%&^*%%$ and other fine words when your spread runs through a brush pile or a school of wild striper. Here's my set up of trolling 12 rods out the back of the boat.
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You could look thru this thread.Quote:
Originally Posted by MidHillbilly
http://www.crappie.com/crappie/south...terpretations/
Alot of the beginning pictures is of graphs sitting still night fishing. Move more towards the end of the thread and you'll see much more daytime graph shots. Alot of them have explanations of what we believe the graph is telling you. Like Ink said...look for activity on your graph before dropping lines. If they aint there just putting out lines wont catch you any fish. If they are there and wont bite....MOVE. Dont spend all day fishing for fish that have lockjaw. They ARE biting somewhere...you just gotta find where they at.:)
What kind of electronics are you running? Does your units have down imaging or side imaging? Or just regular 2D sonar? There's plenty of pics to show you depending on your electronics. Here's one of a school of crappie on a brushpile. This is a down imaging pic.http://i974.photobucket.com/albums/a...101_093920.jpgQuote:
Originally Posted by MidHillbilly
You can almost count the fish. Notice the shadow that they cast on the bottom.
Thanks for the pic. I have a Humminbird Helix with 2D, DI, and SI. I can find the bait balls but I don't think I have ever seen a school of fish like that one. Maybe I am looking in all the wrong places as the old song says. From the picture, the speed said 0.1 MPH so I assume you were barely moving? Usually when I am looking for fish, bait, and structure I am moving about 2 to 3 MPH. Too fast to see those type of images?Quote:
Originally Posted by Gabepeeps
Thanks for the link. There are some great screen shots in that thread and it helps. If you were to fish a creek that you had not fished much, how would you go about looking for fish before you drop a line in the water? Just curious what your approach would be.Quote:
Originally Posted by gabowman
The first thing I look for is bait. No bait, no fish most of the time. Next thing is I use my side imaging and down imaging to search for structure and brushpiles near the channel and work my way shallower. I would start at the mouth of the creek and work my way back. Mark everything and anything you find. Then start to fish when I find them.
MidHillBilly, I have an ancient Lowrance 522LMS but I believe what it tells me. If I troll around in a likely spot and see nothing on the graph then I wont drop lines. I have in the past though (several times thinking they HAVE to be in there) and haven't caught anything. Now I believe what my graph tells me. I will move on to another area and idle around looking for bait/fish and if that spot doesn't show anything then I continue moving until I find something. And if all else fails and I don't see what I want to see on the graph then I will drop lines at the best spot I found for that day (since I am at the lake and wanna fish) but usually those spots wont produce what I wanna catch either. For me...half the fun is finding the fish, and the other half is catching them. And all days ain't great catching days either, but you gotta do your "homework" if you want those "great" days.:)
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Originally Posted by gabowman
I think I have been guilty of just going to the likely spots and dropping lines without doing the homework like you said. I need to spend more time looking for the bait/fish before I waste time fishing unproductive water.