Looking for 14-16' rods and I seem to remember someone mentioned a brand from South Carolina. Is that right? I am looking for a few new rods to troll with. All help appreciated.
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Looking for 14-16' rods and I seem to remember someone mentioned a brand from South Carolina. Is that right? I am looking for a few new rods to troll with. All help appreciated.
Ed has a new trolling rod, SCR143T. Looks like it will be a big seller and tough as nails. His customer service is 2nd to none. I've been using Southerns for several years and couldn't be happier.
check out Proanglertackle.com
How do these Southern rods compare to a B&M BGJP in weight and backbone. Apples to apples, 14'vs14'.
The only B&M trolling rods I have now is a pair of 16' Capps and Colemans so I can't make that comparison. I know the Southern are built with Kevlar and are rock solid. I've longlined and trolled cranks for years with mine and have broken one tip section when it got stepped on. I've replaced 2 tips on my C&Cs, both broken on large rough fish.
Thanks MRD, I'm looking at the homepage now. Prices are cheaper than B&M poles.
They might be just a littles less sensitive than the BGJP but not much. Really sensitive and plenty of back bone. Not much difference in weight either.
More backbone than a BGJP and tip is comparable, they are tuff, no way I would pull on a BnM pole the way I did today on the Southerns when I was hung up 25 foot deep!!!!:banghead
Y'all have me sold on em!Quote:
Originally Posted by Rees Guide
Don't think you will be disappointed one bit.
Tell Ed you heard about them on Crappie.com.
Good luck!
Ok let me put my 2c in. I have fished bnm since day 1 so I can't tell you what is better. But I will say I have fishes side by side with my bnm vs southern crappie and have filled a live well to the brim when the other never saw a bite. But, I am very hard on equipment and order pole tips in bulk. I would imagine I go through around 10 to 12 tips a year. The strongest pole I had was the 14 ft pst by bnm. That pole may very well be the best trolling pole of all time.
Bgjp 16 ft forgot to say what I am fishing
We tightline with 16ft southern crappie rods and love em. We pull with psts and love them too. I have never used bnm to spider rig and never used scr to pull so I can't give a side by side but I will tell you we are very satisfied with both and do not feel the need to change either set up.
Ok now I can't make up my mind again. I want to sprider rig with 12,14,and 16 foot poles using up to maybe 3 ozs. of weight (but less than that most of the time). So now what are y'alls suggestions?Quote:
Originally Posted by bird down
BGJPS won't handle 3 oz, the southern in the new trolling will and the PST will
Like Rees said, southern just came out with a new rod to push that kind of weight and the PST was designed for that kind of weight. I have PST's and Southern's. Love the Southern's but have caught a lot of fish on the PST spider rigging. The southern is just as tough or tougher and a bit cheaper.
I use the Crappiemaxx for 3-4 oz weight. Going to use the PST's now that I have a set. Gonna either use my BGJP's or the C&C tips on the PST's for spider rigging.
I guess y'all can tell I'm on a limited budget. I can swing 3 poles right now but bird downs post put me back to undecided on what to buy. I got all BGJP now in length from10 thru 16 feet. I spider rig with them and love em for single pole. But on a windy day around Graysport they bounce a lot. That's why I'm looking to get some different rods that are sensitive and can handle the wind even with some weight on them. So you guys that spider rig, help me make the right decision. Thanks.
Stiff pole ain't gonna help you on pole bounce, gonna be worse. Go to shorter pole and add length to your leaders will help you way more.
3 oz of weight is too much for the bgjp. I would recommend the 14 ft bnm pst for a 1 pole set up. You can take a caps and coleman tip and swap the tips out if you were not satisfied with sensitivity.
Im not sure that I agree with that....I went from 12 foot bgjps to 16 foot psts and my pole bounce has changed a good bit.....my bgjps would bounce bad....one of the reasons I went to the stiffer pst...i fish out of a 16 foot flat bottom and doesnt take much movement or wake to make my poles bounceQuote:
Originally Posted by Rees Guide
Think there may be some confusion here. I think what you are referring to is pole bend on the BGJP not bounce. What Rees is saying with the stiffer pole your going to have more bounce ( the stiff tip jerking the baits up and down in the water column ) the whole idea is to keep baits as still as possible thus the lighter tip letting the pole bend instead of bouncing the bait up and down.Quote:
Originally Posted by tigerinfielder3
I got the same boat as you with spiderloks. My BGJPS bounce. I don't know what to do. Some say PST others say Southern Crappie. I respect and appreciate all of the advice. Have decided to get 2 Southerns and 1 PST and try them side by side.Quote:
Originally Posted by tigerinfielder3
I love my pst so far, they can handle heavier weight and I can still detect very light bites
THEIR IS TWO GREAT TROLLING POLES ON THE MARKET IN MY OPINION AND THEY ARE BGJP AND PST'S BOTH B N' M !!!!
Use a float
Rods WILL NOT solve pole bounce, a softer shorter pole helps and longer leaders do as well. The ONLY thing that will help with pole bounce is a HEAVY boat, preferably glass. Not scared to say I have 1500 lbs of batts, added lead under a deck extension, and gear before adding 2 and a lot of days 3 fisherman on the front deck. As long as water is not coming over the back I can spider rig, have to titen up the spread some, this helps as well but I can fish. 19.5 older glass boats don't sit as high in the water and this helps as well.Quote:
Originally Posted by Wadenthebushes
Pay attention to what BRM said as well, he is a master at that technique and in that situation longer poles help and it works really well.
No I'm referring to bounce, the bgjps lighter tip WILL and DO bounce and shake more with waves coming in than the PSTs I've had both and there is a difference in the two....Quote:
Originally Posted by cray
That's just my personal experience these guys have done this a whole lot longer than I have. Just stating my personal experience between the two rods in a flat bottom Jon as I have now used both
But your pole staying straight out is not taking the "pole bounce" out of your baits. The bend in the Bucks was letting the bait stay in the strike zone better. For instance, in 1 foot waves the PSTs are staying straight out with little movement but the boat is still going up and down, so is the bait. The Bucks will flex with the wave and give the bait less bounce. "Pole bounce" is being misunderstood here, what we (I) am interested in is bait bounce and how the pole effects that. Also, you will catch way more fish in these conditions with the more limber pole, at least I do. If your rods, I have been here, are jumping out of the holders, get off the lake, its bad.
Back to the wind, makes life way easier.
Ok that's making more sense to me....I see what you are saying now about bait presentation, I just knew if a big wave crashed with my BGJPS it would make all of the tips shake a lot worse than my pstQuote:
Originally Posted by Rees Guide
I have a set of the cheapest rods on the market, Pinacles, and they are awesome in a bad windy situation and why I still have them, great for long lining too.
I've had some pinnacles finally got rid of them all last monthQuote:
Originally Posted by Rees Guide
If they made that rod in a 14 or 16 it is what I would fish with all the time.Quote:
Originally Posted by tigerinfielder3
This has been a great talk. I got a lot to learn. I have used corks on many occasions in the wind.
Use a float on all your poles. Peg it on the bottom hook and drag it instead of letting it bounce. Keeps the bait in the strike zone much longer than bouncing. No pole will solve "The Bounce". If the boat is bouncing, so is the pole!!!!! Make sure the float is the right size for the weight you're using. This works like a champ as long as you're fishing shallower than the pole is long. Leave enough slack from the rod tip to the floats as to not pull the floats off the water when the boat bounces (2' swells, let out 2.5-3' of line or more, etc).
You cannot look at your rod tips when doing this. You MUST watch the floats. If the float is the right size, (barely buoyant enough to not stay under in the waves) the fish will pull it down quick when you get a bite. Too big of a float, and the fish will drag it back instead of taking it down. Takes to long to see a bite that way and you lose more fish because when the boat bounces in the swells it gives the fish slack before you see the bite.
BRM not sure if I understand what you mean by pegging the cork to the bottom hook and dragging it. I always just had the cork just barely sitting on top of the water with enough slack between it and the pole to compensate for the bow moving up and down. Can you explain?Quote:
Originally Posted by BigRiverMarine
Waden.. I think he means the bottom hook on the cork and don't attach it to the top of hook on the cork. then you can drag it easer. I use small balloons and tie them on your line at what depth you what to fish. No need for all the different size of corks for your weight sizes. Just blow up your balloons with your minner aerator to the size you need tie to your line and your ready. Just remember not to fish deeper than your pole length.
Stupid me, of course the bottom hook of the cork. I've been doing that.
Good idea with the balloons. Thanks.