Or do I need to wait till it is in season?
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Or do I need to wait till it is in season?
Pretty sure the closet Blue Backs are in Murray least that's the only place I've seen them.
Norman
Catawba river, lake Norman. Whatever small reservoir is below lake Norman. I would be surprised if Wylie didn't have them. I know guys on here night stalk there a lot, but not sure if anyone has tried to net herring or use a sabiki rig on Wylie. Btw, what is the name of the lake between Norman and Wylie?
look out tailrace? cast net or sabiki rig?
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Originally Posted by bioguy
I bought a cast net once. I later gave it away and decided I'd rather spend my time fishing instead of hunting bait. Just saying.....
Mountain island.
Best place to use sabiki to catch them is below dam? seems cast-netting not very effective based on internet search.
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Originally Posted by REELDAWG
Never been to those spillways. A sabiki would work but I prefer a cast net. The problem with spillways is baits not always there and the rocks will take your cast net. Herring are attracted to lights at night. Marinas have lights... :)
No herring in wylie
I can assure you there are herring in wylie, and lots of them
Mt Island Lake. All the lakes on the Catawba from Norman south are full of HerringQuote:
Originally Posted by REELDAWG
That was my thoughts. I don't see how those lakes wouldn't have herring. They multiply really fast.
So, it's just too cold now, they are plenty and easy to catch in March/April, right? cast net or sabiki?
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Originally Posted by 32RACER
I can catch them very early in the morning. it is possible. just have to have a heavy net.
When i do start live baiting in the spring, i routinely use a 12 ft heavy net. ill catch them deep, and sometimes ive caught them in less than 4ft of water.
here is a pic i dug up of a netfull of herring i got on LAKE WYLIE about 5 or so years ago.....I dont care what the biologist say, yes their are herring on wylie and i regularly catch them every spring.
http://i46.photobucket.com/albums/f1...414111649a.jpg
Herring have been in Santee since the 40's and Murray since it was built. I'm with Pete. Herring have got to be in every lake in the Carolinas.
i would love to see a picture of a herring from Wylie, I have spent many many hours chunking cast nets and haven't ever seen any. Im betting they are large threadfin, just like the ones that stack up behind wateree lugoff dam. all you need is a dip net behind the dam and can scoop hundreds without ever getting on a boat. it is a bit of a long walk to back to the truck to keep them alive, but they are the best bait in my opinion.
I have however caught talipia and a pacu in wylie in a cast net so anything is possible I guess.
My money is on Pete knowing the difference between a thread fin and a herring. Ben knowing him for a long time.
I've had state biologist tell me the same on numerous lakes in the southeast. Even when I showed them the herring swimming in my tank I was told I couldn't use them on that body of water. Greenwood doesn't have any either. Right? Their in greenwood too. I a also had DNR guys ask me what was in my tank. They didn't know what a gizzard shad was.
It could be hard to catch blueback herring with a cast net except during spawn. I read that they are usually deep.
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Originally Posted by bioguy
this could be a fun experiment...tomorrow I will dig up some pictures of shad. but here's one on my phone from October right before the flood....Attachment 228081
what do you think they are?
Looks like threadfin. Long dorsal fin and the Lowe jaw doesn't stick way out. The third and largest one might be a blueback. I can't tell. I have to see in person. Threadfin seem to also have a yellow tail. Bluebacks don't. Just what I've seen. How to catch?? This time of the year should be the easiest time to catch them. Look for warm water creeks. They should be in the backs of those creeks. If you can find a water treatment plant discharge that's where u need to be. There is a creek at Lanier that has a water treatment plant about a mile from lake. Herring are in the creek, literally, when lake gets below 50degrees. Creek is barely wide enough to turn boat around. One cast and your done.
r2002, herring is caught in the lakes I fish by using a sodium light mounted to the side of the boat. What happens is the sodium light running off of a generator draws in the herring to the top of the water under the light and the instant the net is thrown the light goes out so the bait cannot see the net. The bait fishermen around here fish from a 23' skiff with a HUGH tank the size of a septic tank in the middle of their boat to transport the bait. This is how the commercial fishermen catch the bait they sell.
Alwifes.
Ive been striper fishing for over 12 years. I know the difference between herring, alwifes, threadfin and gizzards.
Alwifes are not bad baits though. I do catch them mixed in with the herring.
Pete you the man... here is a better pic of an alewife from Wylie. look very similar to bluebacks, I crack them open to look at their guts.Quote:
Originally Posted by pete
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damn picture didn't want to upload,
here is a link if anyone cares to see an alewife vs blueback. TWRA - Tennessee Wildlife Resources Agency - Alewife
heard they have been stocked through a private party, not SCDNR or NCWRC. Literature says they eat fish eggs, so not a good idea to have stocked them.
broken link. what do you look for in the guts??
oops. works now
Just went through my archives.....this is all i had remaining after i went through and deleted hundreds of photos a few months back..
http://i46.photobucket.com/albums/f1...0420111341.jpg
It's been longer than 12 years since we used to load up at Wateree isn't it? It seems longer than that. Of course I can't remember what I had for supper last night.:biggrinQuote:
Originally Posted by pete
Jimmy Jones,a commercial bait man outside of Chester has Probally caught more herring and shad than anyone else around.He once told me that the only any to tell the difference is cut them open,,,the inside gut cavity of the blueback would be black and the alewife would be white...From what I have seen and caught I think the blue backs run a bit larger than the alewives that you catch in the lakes..The ocean run herring are much larger,10 to 12 " long.
Those I didn't realize were in Wylie. Surely the result of striper fisherman. Doesn't surprise me. Last longer in tank and on hook. Amazing how these different species take over.
has it been that long? damn doesnt seem like it!! Man those were the days for sure!Quote:
Originally Posted by Thumper1
If you ever have the urge to drive North and fish my home waters, feel free to give me a hollar. always an open seat for ya!!
Thanks Pete. I might just take you up on that come spring. We can talk old times.