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Listening to Kevin Ford's Radio show yesterday and he mentioned something about land owners driving pilings in the heart of the bayou black area taking away some great fishing areas do any of you guys know what area he was talking about any information would be greatly appreciated
There's a post on the La Sportsman forum that stated. "They are in the process of gating all Orange Grove canals, but all 70 mile canals"
Times sure are changing. Slowly losing access to all the places we used to have free reign to.Quote:
Originally Posted by jig rig
Hey 20joule, Been meaning to do that. :)
Looks to be gaining speed. :(
joule - very good JR, I like that :ThumbsUpQuote:
Originally Posted by jig rig
That's some sad news to Linda and I and a whole bunch more. I guess I'll have to pull up to the North Shore and fish with JR. At least I don't think they can gate natural rivers, but then, who knows. A very sad day for Terrebonne Parrish fisherman.
"gene"
I Didn't think you could own navigable waters. :dono
Anything possible in Louisiana
These are oilfield canals which were cut through private property, not natural streams. Some of these canals are 50 years old or older and have been used by the public since. Since these canals were dug on private lands the public doesn't have a chance as the laws are stacked against them. Only the passage of laws to prevent this would stop this. But as it stands we all know the rich land owners always win. What they will probably do is continue to lease the land to hunters and trappers and if you want to fish you'll have to buy a permit. More money to the greedy. That is what happened to Lake Theriot or so I heard. The land owner gated the canal to get into the lake and then tried to sell blinds for $1000. Well that fell flat on it's face, then some guide got use of the lake to take customers but that didn't work out either. Although the land owner had the rights to the entrance to the lake, the majority of the lake was owned by someone else. That 90 percent portion ended up belonging to Apache which made a deal with the Dularge Hunting Club to manage it since it is next to hunting club land and has the only other opening to the lake. Now we have to join the club to be able to fish 90% of the lake.
Well I'm like you Ppg it's a sad day for us sac a lait fishermen in the area I was just learning the area to
They may have a reason of some sort, don't know. I used to let hunters come out during the rabbit and squirrel seasons to hunt regular in the woods here, also fish along the river. Then they started dropping trash everywhere and offload four boxes of shells in a short period of time. I did ask them to pick up their trash, and mentioned it wasn't necessary to offload an AR around here. When a couple of dudes showed up one time off the edge of the driveway I have dressed in their high dollar camo clothes, I told them to behave themselves. They called me a tree hugger. Told those suburban city boys to get out - I can whistle for my dogs and jack my 30-30 out in a heartbeat.
Since then, my property has been registered as a national wildlife refuge.
Private property is private property. You guys wouldn't support trespassing in a hunting context, so I am always shocked when I read reactions to the exercise of property owner rights.
Well Mr mantle I didn't start this trend to start no argument I was just asking one question was it true about orange grove I understand land owners views and respect there property but at the same time how can a property owners digs a canal and own water that comes from nature look like to me we as common folks should have a right to that water for the simple fact that water didn't just come on that property the source of that water was tamper with I'm just saying with respect to the land owners they are wrong for there actions me personally I can deal with trash on my property but if a oil well are gas well breaks there's a big problem more than a little trash on a bank I'm just say no disrespect and I'm not trying to start a argument I was just was asking a question
Gotta teach them how to respect their betters... 😊Quote:
Originally Posted by Tracker123
My understanding is they can block as long as they own land on both sides of the waterway. If they only own land on one side then what they are doing is illegal (or so I've been told).
Also they have to give all land owners access to property that may be behind the "gates" they install, can't impede other land owners.
It sounds crazy when you think if "navigable waters", but many of these areas were land and the canals are simply rights of way for oil/gas/etc. If you had a pipeline go through your land, you probably wouldnt want the general public on it deer hunting. Its pretty much the same thing.
This isnt the same as what is happening on some of the river lakes on the Ouachita. Many of these lakes were always navigable even at pool stage. The landowners blocked access by putting culverts in them, which makes it impossible to get in with a boat now and the landowners now have their own private lakes which are property of the state of Louisiana. Its criminal if you think about it.
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Originally Posted by PointMan3
There's a article on Louisiana sportsman website stating it's not true about Orange Grove
Enjoy and praise God for today! Tomorrow is not promised!! Every Good thing is time limited. LA still is the Sportsman's paradise. In n. MS around the reservoirs we were almost land locked on the Corps. Lakes due to boat ramps way way up on Dry Terra!!