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Does anyone use these rods and what do you think of them? I was thinking of getting a Heaton super sentitive, but it doesn't have spinning guides, and thought it might not suit spinning reels well. Actually, buck's ultimate looks like it may be a better rod anyways, but I'd like to know if anyone has one.
BTW, does anyone know who this infamous Buck is?
I have one but have not had a chance to use it yet.
Do you have the 8 footer?
the sam heaton super sensative and absolutely love it. ( 9 footer to be exact). You can cast it, if you choose, but i mainly use it for jigging around timber. Awesome rod!
The rod you link to looks good as well. Just dont own one.
Chris
I just used the Ultimate for a show I taped in Kansas. We were using heavy jigs (1/4 oz.) The fish were absolutely buried in the cover. I like the Sam Heaton rod, but not for this pattern. The Ultimate is a stiffer pole and it was GREAT!!!! I was using the 10ft.
If you buy one of these you will love it!
Russ
www.midwestcrappie.com
Cool, thanks Russ. I mainly cast and thats good info. In my experience the stiffer higher modulus rods are more sensitive for feeling hits and casting.
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Originally Posted by GRIZZ
Buck is the name of the guy that owns B&M pole company. Great guy and great company.
Mystery solved - thanks
I have both , 8' and 10' ultimate and the sam heaton ss in 10' and am ordering it in the 7' today or tomorrow. I have never owned a rod that has had better feel and sensitivity than the sam heaton. Now and then I get caught daydreaming by a slab and see the tip get pulled down and have a delayed reaction and the fish is still there because of the soft tip and they dont feel the tension. I love my 8' ultimate, very good rod with good sensitivity and good backbone and can be used for about any presentation you want to use it for. The ultimate in the 10' is pretty heavy in my opinion for all day jigging but a good rod, I havent used mine since I got my sam heaton, I just have it stored in the attic. The heaton is extremely light and comfortable for all day use. I hope this helps
Do you use the heatons with spinning reels?
I have the 9" Heaton Super Senstive and use a micro spinning reel with it and it works great. Never had any problems at all.
One of the things I don't like about how they advertise these long rods like on BnM is they don't show the guides. Guides are an important factor in making a rod buying decision.
Grizz= I dont use a spinning reel on the 10' anymore because I just use it for vertical jigging in the trees, I put one of those small baitcaster looking reels on and love it and the light weight of it. I will put a spinning reel on the 7' for vertical jigging and for throwing jigs and cork.
I have a 8ft ultimate and would highly recommend it. Seems to be a great all purpose rod as far as I am concerned anyhow.
How far can you cast a 1/16th oz jig with that set up? I'm looking to hurl one around 40 yards from shore.Quote:
Originally Posted by Backlash
I have never owned a Heaton rod. Where is the best plaace to buy one? BPS or Academy sports? The way ya'll are talking on here you have convinced me that I will be getting a couple of them soon. Also how much do they cost?
jhaiken
I've never really cast a 1/16th that far but again I've never tried. I'm not really a good one to ask since I've got torn rotator tendons in both shoulders and am sort of limited in that regard. I have to use more wrist and elbow action when I cast. I'd say I've casted over 30 yards fairly easily in the past with the 9 footer.
I do a lot of fishing where I need to cast a long ways, so over the years I've picked up on a few tips that can help you cast those light jigs further.Quote:
Originally Posted by jhaiken
1. Use the high modulus rods that seem a bit too stiff, but have flexible tips. You exert quite a lot of force when you cast hard and having a light pole with some backbone allows you to maximize your casting effort. I use 7 foot medium light rods with fast action.
2. Light tough line. Its one of the many reasons I love Sufix Promix and Gamma so much. In the lighter lb test ratings they almost never break with hard casting unless there is a reel malfunction or line snag on an eye. They are also super limp which also helps.
3. Over sized spinning reel spools. The larger the spool the easier the line falls off it with less friction in long casts. I suggest looking at spinning reels manufactured by USREEL. They are smaller reels with shallow oversized spools specifically designed to cast further. I suspect BPS's 2 new spinning reels are rebadged USREEL's. I'm gonna get them to go on my new Bucks ultimates (GRIZZ drools)
4. Learn a 2 handed overhead style of casting. Also give yourself 2 - 2.5 feet of line out when you cast. Start with the rod parallel to the ground behind you and snap the cast. Use the power of the rod to launch your jig.
5. Buy quality reels that have an oscillating spool. An oscillating spool changes the speed that the spool travels up from the speed it travels down on the main shaft so that the line gets cross wrapped on the spool. This helps you several ways. The line doesn't get pulled into itself when under a lot of pressure from large fish or snags and such. It wraps the line more tightly on the spool, especially when casting smaller lures hard, which lessens internal line loops and rat nest casts. It also wraps the line more in layers that falls off the reel easier even though its wrapped tighter.
- Most of the better reels have this feature in the $80 range and up. You can tell by looking for 2 parallel shafts in the reel instead of one, and one has a cross hatched pattern.
6. Buy quality gear. Spending $200+ on a rod and reel combo will pay huge dividends to you in better performance, warranties, enjoyment, sensitivity, and durability. Its a pleasure using good gear, and if you buy a combo that you use for 10+ yrs whats an extra $100 spread out over 10 yrs? Its a lot of enjoyment at a small increase in cost.
When I fish for steelhead and smallies off the piers on Lake Erie I can empty my shimano stratic 2500 when I'm using 3/4 ounce or heavier kastmasters or jigging spoons. Those are LONG casts and its because of good casting technique and quality gear and line. You'll get your 40 yrds and more if you follow the above steps.
I am looking for a 12' pole light and lots of back bone. I will be used for wadeing most of the time. I fish with 9' fly rods if the fishing is slow or the bite is light.I would like to know if anyone knows if there is a website that gives the weight of the poles so you can compare them. I have some Wally Marshall 10' that I like and some B&Ms too, but the fly rods are so much lighter.
Thanks for any help.
Sam
Buck Simmons is the owner of bnm poles....
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Is Buck still alive? This thread is eleven years old.Quote:
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If your looking for a 10ft with spinning eyes that can cast and vertical jig very well try check out the Todd Huckabee Dipping rod. I have one paired with a Pflueger President and it is awesome.Dipping Rod | Todd Huckabee RodsQuote:
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I love my 10' Buck's!!
https://twitter.com/buck70Quote:
Originally Posted by deathb4disco
According to his Twitter account, he was still alive in Oct 2017 .... and he's listed as the Retired CEO of BnM Poles.