Can i get some info on the difference between these newer units and the older. Significantly higher resolution etc?
Can i get some info on the difference between these newer units and the older. Significantly higher resolution etc?
Just my opinion from just having ran my Helix 10 and my 1199 a few hours but there is a distinct difference in the clarity and brightness of the Helix over the 1199. The difference in the DI is unbelievable. Since I consider myself a dinosaur when it comes to electronics, I was afraid the Helix operating system and keypad would be so different from the 998/898 I was used to, I would have to re-learn it. No such worry.Quote:
Originally Posted by Zippy
Is the DI dedicated or derived from the SI beams? They do look great, and I remember how clear the screen was on my first helix although tiny. So that clarity carries over to the larger screen with no loss of quality?
Rickie would be a better source of info but I think the Helix 10 has the dedicated DI transducer. I know I sure am happy with it.Quote:
Originally Posted by Zippy
Thanks for the reply. Im gonna guess that it is the same as the other units, the DI unit has the dedicated transducer but the unit with side imaging gets its DI picture from the SI beam.
Anybody have any idea how much better the dedicated transducer picture is over the DI picture from the SI beam. I,m trying to decide which one I want. TksQuote:
Originally Posted by Zippy
I'm not trying to sell anything since I recently bought the Helix and 1199. In my opinion the DI on the Helix 10 is much better, brighter, cleaner than the DI on the 1199. As far as some kind of statistical comparison, I have no idea.
I've got several hours experience, with both ,si from di and dedicated di.I'm not impressed with di from si.Bottom composition along with structure density makes di from si vary ,and makes it unreliable.
Ok thanks. I hardly use the DI on my 899 and was really impressed by mrduxs down images of the stump. I find it usable on my unit but its not sharp at all and very flat. Like a zoomed in and straightened piece of what you see in side imaging at the top 5th of the screen. It works and is better than not having it but its not great thats for sure.
I've turned the 998 transducer,were one of the si piezo'sQuote:
Originally Posted by Zippy
Were facing straight down and got some very good results.Some images rival my di imagesfrom my onix
Wow, is it permanently turned? Thats intersting
Get one DI unit and one SI unit ...... Then you have the best of both.Quote:
Originally Posted by LR77
If you are only going to get 1, I'd get the SI first because it is far superior for searching.
I GOT KOMOS SLANTED TRANSDUCER ON MY 998 AND IT GIVES A GOOD PIC LIKE MY 859.THAT HELIX LOOKS GREAT
Hey fellas ! Great info. I've ordered the 10 helix si after seeing mrdux pics made me a believer. But do you have to get another transducer for high speed running ?
The HDSI xducer can get high speed depth readings ...but it is a challenge to get the xducer mounted low enough to get clean bubble free water flowing across the face of the xducer ...Quote:
Originally Posted by EarlWaynetom
Some opt for the added 2d xducer (and the AS SIDB Y cable) because it's easier to mount in a spot to get high speed depth readings ...
This can be a shoot thru XP 9 20 epoxied in the hull of a fiberglass boat ...
Or the XNT 9 20 transom mount 2d xducer ...
Rickie
Correct ...Quote:
Originally Posted by Zippy
The dedicated DI units will most always render a better DI image simply because the dedicated DI piezo is pointing straight down ...Quote:
Originally Posted by LR77
The "DI from SI" units computer generate the SI data to "look like" a DI image ...therefore the "DI from SI" data is coming from piezoes that are pointed out to the side ...
Rickie
I had pretty much decided to go with the SI unit-but after looking at my boat transom I,m not sure I have enough clearance between the transom and motor for it to work. My transom is straight down with no offsets. Any thoughts.
SI IS AT SLOW SPEED SO U CAN TILT MOTOR UP SOME IF NEED BE
Tks. When crappie fishing (searching for crappie) which do you use most? SI or DI.TksQuote:
Originally Posted by genec
I use SI more than DI. SI to me is more important than DI for being able to see more of what's around, but once you find something dedicated DI would be nice to get a better view of it.Quote:
Originally Posted by LR77
Tks guys for all the great info. I ordered the Helix 10 SI from Brian at BBG yesterday. Brian is a great guy to deal with. He also has a wealth of knowledge about all these units along with good price and great service. Can,t wait to get my new toy installed and on the water. Larry
Great.....post some screen shots when you get it on the water.
I installed my 10 Helix 2 weeks ago. I also have the 899 on the bow. No compairison in the 2 units. The Helix is much better. If you want to absolutely BLOW YOUR MIND, use the 'Autochart live' feature when you get it. I have re-mapped one of my local lakes and found stuff that I never knew existed. It is AMAZING!!! You keep it on your Chart view select on and start driving, the map "appears" as you drive.
I use side imaging more and 2d next. I have a split screen with 2d and di so i can tell a stump from a group of fish on the bottom when i go in search of what I saw on the Side. I have gotton some good Di images on a side imaging.
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The Autochart seems very interesting. After you fish and map a lake-Quote:
Originally Posted by Old Sarge
1-How do you save that info if you go to another lake. Tks
Your unit will automatically save it on the GPS coordinates. You get 8 hours of autochart that will save to your unit hard drive but to do more you must buy the zero line sd card